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davy
05-19-2010, 12:14 AM
I know there are lots of different crosshairs for ACOG users, chevron, donut, horseshoe, dot?

I read from some online article a while back that the marines have the chevron reticle (hence COD4 chevron acogs) because they ordered the WRONG model from trijicon. Trijicon told the military that they should've gone with the horseshoe or something else other than a chevron because it's faster in target acquisition. The military ordered the chevron anyhow, and later on realized that trijicon was right.

My question is, is this story true? It's hard for me to imagine that the army or marine corp don't know their optics enough that they would actually go with the wrong reticle in their optics. IF this story is true, does anybody know what reticle trijicon said was actually the quickest for target acquisition?

And why make other forms of reticles if trijicon know that only one is optimum for quick target acquisition?

qtmac_mien
05-19-2010, 2:48 AM
i believe the horseshoe retical and the color green is the most recent ones that trijicon came out with so i don't think they had the option of choosing which ones they wanted back then

Greg-Dawg
05-19-2010, 4:00 AM
WE support our troops, not the government. Donuts are what it's all about.

reidnez
05-19-2010, 5:57 AM
Meh. Who cares what the Marines use and why? DOD buys some good gear but it buys a lot of junk, too, so I would dissuade anyone from using the fact of military issue as a primary reason to buy something. Pick whichever reticle suits your fancy. I, personally, prefer the red chevron because you have a more precise aiming point. Remember ACOG is intended to be used out to extended ranges, too, so fast target acquisition isn't everything. I wouldn't buy a 10x scope with a donut reticle. So everything is a compromise any way you look at it.

dieselpower
05-19-2010, 6:00 AM
Meh. Who cares what the Marines use and why? DOD buys some good gear but it buys a lot of junk, too, so I would dissuade anyone from using the fact of military issue as a primary reason to buy something. Pick whichever reticle suits your fancy. I, personally, prefer the red chevron because you have a more precise aiming point. But that is me.

Aman Brother, no truer words are spoken.

shark92651
05-19-2010, 7:05 AM
I agree with reidnez. I have a donut on the 1.5X and the chevron on the 4x. It wouldn't make sense to me to do this the other way around.

dchang0
05-19-2010, 11:00 PM
Each reticle has its strengths and weaknesses. The chevron is designed to make it easy to estimate range on a human target.

The horseshoe dot is a better balance between precision and fast acquisition, though I do believe the chevron is faster just because it's brighter. Certainly, the chevron covers up quite a bit more of the target, so it'll never be as precise as the horseshoe+dot, Christmas tree, etc., reticles at certain ranges. And the doughnut seems to be the fastest at shorter ranges.

Requiem
05-20-2010, 5:41 AM
My question is, is this story true? It's hard for me to imagine that the army or Marine Corps don't know their optics enough that they would actually go with the wrong reticle in their optics.?

fixed.

xxINKxx
05-20-2010, 6:33 AM
If its in Call of Duty 4, Then it must be true!

I hate how everything is compared to call of duty after that game came out

Just pick what recticle you like the best, and whats the best for the type of shooting you do. You'll more then likley never have to be in the same sitation as the Marines who have to use there acog in battle. So the recticle they use wont benefit you anymore then a different recticle design.

drifter001
05-20-2010, 6:55 AM
Call of duty is the most bs game ever made and if you're compairing real life to a video game then idk what to tell you. Funny how people think that one gun is stronger than another just cuz cod said so

keson
05-20-2010, 7:26 AM
Meh. Who cares what the Marines use and why? DOD buys some good gear but it buys a lot of junk, too, so I would dissuade anyone from using the fact of military issue as a primary reason to buy something. Pick whichever reticle suits your fancy. I, personally, prefer the red chevron because you have a more precise aiming point. Remember ACOG is intended to be used out to extended ranges, too, so fast target acquisition isn't everything. I wouldn't buy a 10x scope with a donut reticle. So everything is a compromise any way you look at it.


+1 :clap:

ar15barrels
05-20-2010, 9:19 AM
If its in Call of Duty 4, Then it must be true!

I hate how everything is compared to call of duty after that game came out

My friend was the gun specialist on the COD games.
He loves how everything is compared to COD...