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thrillhouse700
05-14-2010, 12:31 AM
What is the price diff between building an ar-15 and an ar-10? I know ammo would be the major factor after the fact, but just in initial costs?

mike09
05-14-2010, 2:59 AM
i dont think cheap and ar-10 can be in the same sentence

Kemp3
05-14-2010, 5:30 AM
maybe 1500 $ if you shop around for every deal and go basic , like DPMS upper . I have just just about finished mine , when I am done its going to be closer to 2500 $ with out glass.

Already shot it , it is quite fun :)

CHAD PEZZLE
05-14-2010, 6:09 AM
$230-300 + DROS = Lower Receiver
$600 complete DPMS upper
$75-90ish for Lower Parts Kit
$100 ish for collapsible stock.
$120 magpul flip up sites.

Wait for sales or buy used and one could be built fairly cheap. I think around $1000 is not unreasonable you just have to be patient. Depending on how you want it built, what kind of sites, and glass you can do it fairly cheap. Uppers have come down in price, but lowers are still about double what a standard 5.56 lower is. Getting under a grand would be a bit more difficult.

Nick1236
05-14-2010, 6:49 AM
noob question, what the difference between and ar-10 and ar-15?

PatriotnMore
05-14-2010, 6:50 AM
.308 vs 5.56/.223

noob question, what the difference between and ar-10 and ar-15?

joelogic
05-14-2010, 6:53 AM
Seriously? Google is your friend. The AR-10 is the big brother to the AR-15.

noob question, what the difference between and ar-10 and ar-15?

Nick1236
05-14-2010, 7:06 AM
.308 vs 5.56/.223

ty sir.

Rob454
05-14-2010, 7:19 AM
noob question, what the difference between and ar-10 and ar-15?

Ar 10 is a 308 caliber
Ar15 is 223 5.56 7.62x39 50 beoulf etc.

Solidsnake87
05-14-2010, 9:34 AM
i dont think cheap and ar-10 can be in the same sentence

+1. I have two of them. Both are missing forearms and barrels. Even without these parts, I have $1200 into each one and it will take another $1000 per gun to make them shootable. I'll still need optics after that too :( AR-10s are not for the penny pinchers................unless you are willing to take a LONG time to build.

dizzy
05-14-2010, 9:39 AM
You can buy a plain AR10 free float tube for $80, plus $35 for bolt on rail sections.
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10703411KIT&ReturnUrl=Categories.aspx?Category=fd2d297c-06ed-41ff-ab10-763df7f5229e

thrillhouse700
05-14-2010, 9:40 AM
hahahaha ok good info here guys thanks. Maybe Ill stick with ar-15.

viras
05-14-2010, 10:10 AM
Mine cost $2563.45 so far (no optics, only BUIS) for all the parts listed below, including tax, fees, and shipping. I probably overpaid for a few items, but whatever... at this point, I don't care anymore. I'm just glad to have her functional... It took the last two months of 2008 and all of 2009 to build her.

Parts List:

*JTROKS CAL10-BS
*Aero Precision SPR-2 Lower Receiver
*ArmaLite AR-10 A4 NM Upper Assembly w/ Forward Assist 20" SS Barrel
*Magpul UBR Stock (FDE) with AR-10 Carbine Buffer & AR-10 Operating Spring
*Magpul MIAD Grip
*Magpul Full Length XT Rail Panels in FDE, Black, Foliage Green, and Olive Drab
*Troy Di-Optic Aperture Rear Sight (DOA) in FDE
*Troy Front Tritium M4 Style Folding BattleSight in FDE
*Timney AR-10 Competition Trigger
*ArmaLite 10 Round Magazine X 2

Legasat
05-14-2010, 10:20 AM
Strange that you can buy an LR308 or AR10 for $1200 (in free states), but if you want to build one in PRK, it costs $2000 - $2500...

I have run into this personally.

Tyrius
05-14-2010, 12:01 PM
Why are the lowers so much more expensive than AR-15 lowers? Is it just a matter of supply and demand, or does that much additional effort have to go into manufacturing them that the price rises accordingly?

12:13
05-14-2010, 1:21 PM
noob question, what the difference between and ar-10 and ar-15?

About 4 to 6 pounds depending on your set up :confused::43:

Rekrab
05-14-2010, 2:12 PM
My LR-308 ran about 1300 but I got some good deals on parts.

anothergunnut
05-14-2010, 2:20 PM
Rguns.net has a complete 20 inch upper with front sight and carry handle for $625. Add a tactical machining lower for $200, $50 for DROS and FFL service, LPK and bullet button for $100, and A2 stock kit for another $100 gets you to just about $1,100 for a standard AR-10. The price goes up (sometimes dramatically!) from there.

Rekrab
05-14-2010, 2:32 PM
Bear in mind that an Armalite pattern .308 is going to be more expensive than the DPMS pattern .308s.

stormy_clothing
05-14-2010, 3:38 PM
impact guns has the Remington r25 for 1270, I'd get it over to ar15 barrels and get a comp put on

http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/15/r25.jpg

frigginchi
05-14-2010, 3:41 PM
Here you go :)

http://www.ddsranch.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=277_290_349&products_id=625

Preacher
05-14-2010, 3:46 PM
Im torn between building an AR-10...or Precision Rifle (Rem700police etc)...7mm or 308.

tileguy
05-14-2010, 4:00 PM
i built one a few months back low budget but works great striped CMMG lower dpms compatible 230.00 dpms lpk 55.00 dpms coplete upper w/free float tube bolt and carrier 599.00 collapsable stock 65.00 BB 25.00 10rd mag 15.00 total 989.00

JagerTroop
05-14-2010, 9:39 PM
hahahaha ok good info here guys thanks. Maybe Ill stick with ar-15.


Ehhh, you say that now :rolleyes: Soon you'll get bored of the .223

The 308 platform will work it's way into your life eventually. After I built my first one, they started to multiply (like gremlins). I swear... 3 months later I have 2 complete, a spare upper, a stripped upper, and 2 stripped lowers. I had to sell off all my ar15s just to keep them at bay ;)

LasVegasTaxMan
05-15-2010, 7:36 AM
Why are the lowers so much more expensive than AR-15 lowers? Is it just a matter of supply and demand, or does that much additional effort have to go into manufacturing them that the price rises accordingly?

Im no expert however this is probably why.

-Not as many manufacturers less availability too
-Most seem to be billet
-More aluminum is used
-Machine time is longer to manufacturer
-Not much competition
-More overall cost ex: paying machinist/labor/anodizing

It is hard to find a nice set for under $600. I think the best sets are made by JD Machine, Iron Ridge, and Kaiser, all 3 are bad *** and well over $600 when you are done with taxes and DROS.

Oregonish
05-15-2010, 8:33 AM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=297854

Spyder
05-15-2010, 9:35 AM
I'm less than 1100 into mine and I've shot it a bunch.

TM lower for 200 bucks. LPK was on sale at midway for 65 or so. Found a good deal on a new DPMS 24" stainless free floated upper for 600. Used some old non-folding cheapy BUIS that I had, but that I only paid 50 bucks for last year. Used standard A2 stock for 30 bucks at a local gunshow with an AR10 buffer, tube and spring I scored on gunbroker for 45 bucks. Bought a 10 round mag and bullet button online for 45 bucks delievered.

I planned on going good optics with it but its so damned fun to shoot offhand with irons I may have to build my second stripped lower into a little short semi lightweight tactical one first! :D

pyro3k2
05-15-2010, 10:18 AM
Mine set me back $2,780 if you are going to build an ar-10 pattern rifle don't go cheap. If you want something cheap in a 30 cal build an ar that shoots 7.62x39

Spyder
05-15-2010, 11:43 AM
I went all top components except for my BUIS...works great! :D

swerv512
05-15-2010, 12:53 PM
noob question, what the difference between and ar-10 and ar-15?



:eek::eek:
you have much to learn my padawan...

08duramax
05-15-2010, 7:56 PM
what are the different manufacturers that make ar-10 pattern lower receivers?

and who makes ar10 pattern uppers. i am going to start planning my build, but dont know who makes the stuff.

what is the difference between the dpms lowers, and armalite lowers?

unusedusername
05-15-2010, 9:04 PM
what is the difference between the dpms lowers, and armalite lowers?

Not too sure on the rest of those questions, but I know this one...

DPMS and Armalite put the screw holes in different places on the lower. Once you choose a "pattern" all of your lower components, and the upper must be of that "pattern".

08duramax
05-15-2010, 9:48 PM
Not too sure on the rest of those questions, but I know this one...

DPMS and Armalite put the screw holes in different places on the lower. Once you choose a "pattern" all of your lower components, and the upper must be of that "pattern".

is there any benefit to one over the other? isnt there a difference in magazines also?

Solidsnake87
05-15-2010, 11:21 PM
They shape the receiver differently too. Other than that they offer the same features. Armalite started placing forward assists on theirs recently. The DPMS ones use knight's armament style magazines. The Armalite mags cost double the ones available for the DPMS style system. Also, the DPMS system (and clones) seems to be cheaper to aquire. I went with the Aero/Armalite ones. I like the build quality and finish better. I also find the shape of the receiver more attractive. At the end of the day, it really comes down to personal preference. They both seem like decent parts.

The Remington mentioned earlier is just DPMS in Remy clothing. As far as .308 ARs go, I hear go things about those and they are hard to beat for the price. If you are not looking for anything special or custom, these will do nicely. I find the camo dipped finish to be very attractive as is. I would have no problem using one as a hunting rifle. I'm sure if you handload you could probably get great accuracy with special loads. If you plan to go custom, you'll most likely get a railed forearm and better barrel. These will add Another $1200 to the cost, so you'll be in about the same boat as all the builders out there.

VegasND
05-16-2010, 6:50 AM
What about the lowers that take FAL or HK magazines? Is there a good reason to go with those other than the availability of the mags? I heard the HK mag style lowers don't have LRBHO -- why not?

Good idea for a thread, thanks for putting it up because I think I want to build an AR10 this summer.

CSACANNONEER
05-16-2010, 7:43 AM
"Building" an AR 10 can probably be done for less than $150 if you are talking about manufacturing everything from raw materials. If you are talking about assembling an AR10 from premanufactured parts, well, that's a different story. You'll have to figure at least a grand but, more than likely, closer to two thousand.

anniepoks
05-16-2010, 9:13 AM
noob question, what the difference between and ar-10 and ar-15?

my daughter sez......da boolits daddy, da boolits! :p

Spyder
05-16-2010, 5:20 PM
I dunno about this two grand figure everyone is coming up with. You guys need to shop around more!

slappomatt
05-16-2010, 9:30 PM
I bought a noveske lower, AR-10 (armalite) pattern. Got it at the height of the obummer craze and paid almost 600 OTD for the lower. another 75 for a LPK minus trigger. and I had a PRS clone stock I have thrown on it for now. I got a few mags at 50+ each..... probably into the almost complete lower for about $800 now. still will need a $200+ trigger to finish the lower. and for a decent upper you will spend 1K easily. so $2K for a rifle is very plausible.

as to the Bolt gun... if you want to shoot long distance on the cheap bolt gun is the only way to go. also easier to shoot accurately IMO by a long shot.

bondmid003
05-17-2010, 1:37 AM
AR10's are rarely cheap. You will see a definite price jump between an AR-15 and an AR-10 of comparable quality

Forestgnome
05-17-2010, 5:29 AM
impact guns has the Remington r25 for 1270, I'd get it over to ar15 barrels and get a comp put on

http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/15/r25.jpg

Okay, so how do you get one in California?

stormy_clothing
05-17-2010, 10:30 AM
Okay, so how do you get one in California?

As posted in the link below mine DD's ranch and many others offer cal spec bullet button additions to any rifle they offer for an additional 25 dollars. You simply then have it shipped to your ffl.

Or buy one off GB and have it shipped in two parts to your ffl who can install a BB

here's some current listings

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.aspx?Keywords=r25

DREADNOUGHT78
05-17-2010, 11:33 AM
Well I am in the middle of mine but here it is so far....

Upper receiver...
JD Machine Match upper (on order with gunshop no price yet over $200)
DPMS SASS Barrel, Lo-Pro Gas block,Gas Tube Around $300
BCM GunFighter Charging Handle $65
DPMS Bolt and Carrier group $200
VLTOR Comp $60
TROY MRF $259 (On Order)
MAGPUL MBUS $80

Lower Receiver...
JD Machine Lower $350 OTD
DPMS LPK $65
MAGPUL PRS OD Green $200
MAGPUL MIAD ODGreen $30
YHM Rail Bi-Pod adapter $20
Buffertube assembly $40

So at this point around $1800. Still need Glass and Scope base.Oh yeah and alot of ammo.

Tank.45
05-25-2010, 8:52 AM
anyone know what the difference between the sportical and oracle from DPMS?

http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/?cat=1940