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jlh95811
05-13-2010, 2:24 AM
This thread will be for asking questions of Sac Sheriff Candidate Bret Daniels. I see he is a member here at calguns.net and is not shy to post. So let's ask him questions. Hopefully he can find time in what I'm sure is a very busy schedule to answer any questions we may have.

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Firstly let me state that I'm just starting to bone up on the Candidates so forgive me, and others, if we are not fully informed on your stances. That is the aim of this thread.

My Question:
What specifics can you tell me about the reason you were fired as a deputy?
I heard this mentioned on a KTKZ radio show. Jim Cooper(for the record; Can't stand him) said something to the effect of, 'You were running names' I believe on a database and that it was a felony. Can you please elaborate on this issue for me or direct me to more info on the subject that may explain it?

Also forgive me for bringing it up AGAIN, but I could care less whether or not you are as fancy with your wording as other candidates. So far I love where you stand on issues of public safety(putting more officers in cars and not at desks) and personal protection(shall issue CCW; personal protection is sufficient cause).

AyatollahGondola
05-13-2010, 9:28 AM
For what it's worth, No employee gets to set the terms during any action to dismiss or discipline them. You don't get a fair trial, as it is not constitutionally mandated,
The employer can focus on any one thing or several, and limit your ability to defend yourself. The sheriff's department is just like any other employer in that regard. If you've ever been fired by an employer, you'll understand this process. An employer can accuse you of stealing, dereliction, improper behavior towards another employee, or anything they want, and with or without a hearing, place their determination in your record and terminate you with that written in their file forever. This is the world of employee/employer relationship, and anything released by an employer about you should be taken with a huge grain of salt

rmasold
05-13-2010, 9:38 AM
You can ask Bret all these questions on saturday face to face if you choose. He will be at the Chevron in Citrus Heights Ca @ the intersection of Auburn and Antelope haveing a BBQ and answering questions. Then you can stop by Sacramento Black Rifle... lol

45R
05-13-2010, 11:13 AM
I have no stake in this fight. Just presenting what is public knowledge.

Profile: Ex-Deputy Bret Daniels
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Published: Sunday, Apr. 18, 2010 - 12:00 am | Page 11A
Last Modified: Sunday, Apr. 18, 2010 - 3:15 pm

Daniels, 49, was with the Sheriff's Department from 1988 until 2000, working most of that time on patrol duty. This is his fourth run for sheriff, and follows two successful bids for the Citrus Heights City Council.

He works as director of public safety at New Park Mall in the Bay Area city of Newark.

The pitch:

Daniels has virtually no fundraising apparatus or organized support for his candidacy but said that did not stop him from winning council elections.

His "contract" with the citizens of the county outlines his goals, including a vow to get more deputies out of offices and onto the streets and to trim management ranks. Like Jones, he said he wants to explore cost-sharing with other departments for services such as SWAT teams.

He also said he wants to allow more citizens to obtain concealed weapons permits. "If they live here and don't have a disqualifying factor like a drug history or history of violence" a permit should be issued, he said.

The baggage:

Daniels was fired from the Sheriff's Department for dishonesty in 2000. Sheriff's officials have said his dismissal came after a trip to Arizona during which he asked an officer to use a police computer to look up the address of a female friend.

The department has said he was fired for lying to internal affairs investigators, but Daniels disputes that and said his dismissal, which he fought, was payback for having challenged Blanas for sheriff in 1998.

Daniels won two terms on the Citrus Heights City Council and became mayor, but resigned in 2005 a year before his term ended. He said the position was taking a toll on his family and that he wanted to rebuild his law enforcement career.

The campaign:

Daniels is running as an outsider who can bring change to the department. He said he has won elections with limited resources and believes that once voters learn more about the candidates, he will rise to the top.

"I think it's going to be important for the voters to look at the baggage, if you will, of all three of us," he said.[b/]

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/18/2686621/ex-deputy-bret-daniels.html#ixzz0npmYQvwH


Profile: Sheriff's Capt. Jim Cooper
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Published: Sunday, Apr. 18, 2010 - 12:00 am | Page 11A
Last Modified: Sunday, Apr. 18, 2010 - 3:15 pm

Cooper, 46, has been with the Sheriff's Department 25 years and is easily the best known and best financed of the three. He is in his third term on the Elk Grove City Council and has served as the city's mayor.

Cooper worked as an undercover drug officer, commander of the jail and now heads the Sacramento Valley Hi-Tech Crimes Task Force. He has endorsements from numerous law enforcement unions and groups, and is backed by former Sheriff Lou Blanas.

The pitch:

Cooper has positioned himself as an outsider in his own department, criticizing McGinness for failings he said led to last year's layoffs of 122 deputies. He contends better management, aggressive courting of federal grants and cost controls could have saved their jobs.
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The baggage:

Over the years, Cooper has exhibited behavior his foes characterize as reckless. He faced an anonymous sexual harassment complaint in 2005 over a comment to a civilian employee who worked for him and was about to get married.

Cooper acknowledges he told the woman she needed "jungle love" before she got married and that it was inappropriate.

"It wasn't sexual harassment. I told an off-color joke in the workplace," he said. "I shouldn't have done it."

The Sheriff's Department, which investigated the complaint internally, would not discuss the case or the outcome.

The woman, who still works for the department, does not want to be identified. She said through a Sacramento attorney that she supports Cooper and believes the incident was blown out of proportion.

Cooper said the complaint kept him from running for sheriff in 2006, when McGinness won the office.

Cooper also concedes that in a heated exchange in 2005, he called then-Elk Grove Mayor Dan Briggs a "*****." It's not the only time Cooper has been accused of impolitic behavior as a councilman.

In February 2005, the county grand jury found that Cooper repeatedly voted or took part in discussions on the Sheriff Department's multimillion-dollar contract to provide law enforcement services in Elk Grove.

Despite receiving at least 12 written opinions warning against it, Cooper involved himself in votes or discussions of the contract 20 times between June 2000 and May 2004, the grand jury found.

He also took actions that other council members found intimidating. He began to wear his gun to council meetings and "acted repeatedly in a belligerent and uncivil manner," the grand jury reported.

Cooper, who has a natural charm and ribald sense of humor, concedes he is sometimes too blunt. He said he's learned over the years to temper his comments.

"You know what, I've made mistakes in my life, and I still may make some mistakes," he said. "But I have the best intentions of doing the right thing. It's always been that way."

Cooper also faced questions over his stint as commander of the Sacramento County Main Jail in 2002, when a record seven inmates committed suicide. Some deputies began to call the I Street jail "the morgue."

"Each commander has had incidents at the jail," he said. "The bottom line is you've got 2,400 inmates there, and none of them wants to be there."

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/18/2686622/sheriffs-capt-jim-cooper.html#ixzz0npoRNuxv
Profile: Sheriff's Capt. Scott Jones
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Published: Sunday, Apr. 18, 2010 - 12:00 am | Page 11A
Last Modified: Sunday, Apr. 18, 2010 - 3:15 pm

Jones, 42, has been with the department for 21 years, working in patrol, commanding the jail, heading internal affairs, and serving as legal adviser and assistant to McGinness, who has endorsed him.

Jones, a lawyer by training, also is endorsed by Sacramento Police Chief Rick Braziel, former U.S. Attorney McGregor Scott, other area chiefs and elected officials.

The pitch:

Jones describes himself as an ethical and innovative leader who wants to try new approaches. He said he would look to make agreements with other departments in the region to avoid duplicating services for example, creating a burglary task force to operate across city and county boundaries.

Unlike Cooper, he said it would have been hard to avoid last year's layoffs and that the department made great efforts to keep the cutbacks from being worse.

He said that he and Cooper were involved in regular upper-level meetings as the financial crisis mushroomed and that decisions weren't made without input from the captains.

"You have to come to a realization that this is our new economic reality," Jones said, and that the department needs a "more regionalized approach to public safety."

The baggage:

Jones was the target of a federal grand jury probe in 2002 as part of a scheme by a Sacramento group to cash a stolen $3.8 million Treasury check.

Jones said he was questioned because he had opened a law office inside a J Street building owned by Don Malone, a bail bondsman who gave him space in return for minor legal services, such as work on leases and contracts.

Malone, his brother Brian and several others later pleaded guilty in federal court. Jones said he came under suspicion because Brian Malone boasted "that I was their cop on the take, I was their cop in their pocket."

A search warrant affidavit filed at the time had claims from one of the defendants that Jones kept the Malones and their Fast Break Bail Bonds "informed of drug raids, criminal history information, warrant checks, etc."

The document also indicates that detectives found "numerous Criminal History inquiries made by Jones that do not appear to be work-related" and that Jones' telephone records indicate he made calls to Fast Break around the same time he was checking criminal histories on department computers.

Jones said that during the probe he was summoned into Assistant Sheriff Mike Smith's office in the presence of internal affairs officers and told he was being placed on leave because of a federal probe.

He said he called the FBI and went in for an interview immediately. Jones said he took a polygraph the next day that was inconclusive, then took a second and passed.

After that, he went before a federal grand jury, where "the U.S. attorney grilled me."

Michelle Rodriguez, the assistant U.S. attorney, said Jones was investigated because he worked in the Malone building. "There was no link between Scott Jones and the attempts to cash and launder the proceeds of the stolen U.S. Treasury check," she said.

Brian Malone also said Jones had nothing to do with the checks or running criminal histories for Fast Break.

"Scott Jones was the most honest person I ever met," Malone said in an interview at the Sacramento County jail, where he is being held on unrelated vehicle theft charges.

The campaign:

Jones contends Cooper's supporters will attack with anything they can, and points to questions raised over his residency. He said he and his family bought their dream home in Colfax in 2007. After deciding to run for sheriff, he said, he moved in September into an Antelope home that he has owned for 18 years. McGinness made a similar move, leaving El Dorado County for Folsom before his 2006 run.

Jones said he is the only candidate living in the Sheriff's Department's jurisdiction. Cooper lives in Elk Grove; Daniels in Citrus Heights.

He has said he wants his personnel records opened for inspection; the county is assessing the legality and whether it could raise privacy issues for other employees. Cooper initially said he would open his records, too, but now says law enforcement unions object.

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/18/2686623/sheriffs-capt-scott-jones.html#ixzz0npoga2hK

Gray Peterson
05-13-2010, 11:45 AM
Daniels it is.

Bizcuits
05-13-2010, 12:00 PM
Having lived in Sacramento all my life... I'm sick of our Sheriffs being politicans... Daniels is the only candidate who hasn't been a part of the system since the beginning and definitely doesn't seem like the type too fall to the political pressure that John McGinness fell to...

I could care less about the allegations against Daniels, because to be frank. I've seen a lot of good cops and deputies get their careers ruined over stupid ****. Surprisingly a close friend of mine lost his career with the Sacramento Police, for a HELL OF A LOT LESS then Cooper!

The ones who get fired aren't the ones you want to worry about. The ones WHO DON'T GET FIRED are the ones you want to worry about.

Lone_Gunman
05-13-2010, 12:08 PM
My question- Where can I get some yard signs? I will put them up all over the place. Do you have a campaign HQ I can stop by to get some?

GutPunch
05-13-2010, 12:41 PM
Wow. Some of those are pretty epic.

Bizcuits
05-13-2010, 4:17 PM
Here is the message I got from Daniels regarding yard signs and what not...

Bill, we still don't have the bucks to get the signs but hopefully this fundraiser will get us there. I will be happy to deliver a sign to you personally when they come in. Thanks for your support!!!

Bret

Looks like the Fundraiser on Saturday is gonna be pretty important. I'm gonna do my best to make it out, hope you guys do too.

Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010
Time: 12:00pm - 3:00pm
Location: LART Group Chevron
Street: Southeast corner of Antelope Rd/Auburn Blvd
City/Town: Citrus Heights, CA

akoba
05-13-2010, 7:35 PM
you got my support bret ...

pdq_wizzard
05-13-2010, 8:49 PM
I think Bret it is. I would love a lawn sign. also I will have to try and find some $$ to give ....

ShootinMedic
05-13-2010, 9:40 PM
I can't come on Saturday (have to work) but I would like a yard sign if you get them. I would also like to contribute to the cause. Do you have a gunpal account?

Bizcuits
05-13-2010, 10:10 PM
I can't come on Saturday (have to work) but I would like a yard sign if you get them. I would also like to contribute to the cause. Do you have a gunpal account?

If he does, he isn't advertising it (haven't seen it yet). I know he accept checks though. His mailing address is on the website http://www.bretdanielsforsheriff.com

ArmedWolf
05-14-2010, 12:31 AM
I made an image for a yard-sign I plan to order through Vistaprint, I remade the header of his sight into a large DPI rez PSD for 18x24" signs, wasn't hard really, matched the font and colors and bam! yard-sign. vistaprint is like $10 for a basic yard-sign plus the shipping and all.

I'm willing to offer the PSD file for free to anyone else wanting to make their own prints, not to use and sale yard-signs.

If that is ok to do?

Here is a preview of what I did. the full size is 300DPI, 18x24" vistaprint uses 18x27" but you can crop the image as you want, I just trimmed off the bottom. If it is cool to do I'll post the PSD file
http://file.walagata.com/w/wolves/BDsheriff.jpg

supersonic
05-14-2010, 7:41 AM
Yard Sign, Please!!!!:D

Bret Daniels
05-14-2010, 11:32 AM
Dear Friends (and foes..haha),
Thank you for your questions and comments. I am running 100mph right now but hope to get back on tonight probably after midnight. I am having a BBQ fundraiser tomorrow (Saturday) from 12pm-3pm. Please stop by, have a burger, and throw a few bucks in the bowl to get us to victory lane. It will be at the Chevron on the southeast corner of Antelope Rd and Auburn Blvd. Thanks!!!

Bret

haveyourmile
05-14-2010, 1:05 PM
Bret, what makes you think you have the experience to be a good Sheriff? With your lack of experience it seems we could grab any deputy off the street and throw him up as Sheriff, what makes you any different?

I REALLY want to WANT to vote for you and I really want CCW in Sacramento, but I can't seem to find any other reasons to vote you in as Sheriff

Mstrty
05-14-2010, 1:55 PM
Dear Friends (and foes..haha),
Thank you for your questions and comments. I am running 100mph right now but hope to get back on tonight probably after midnight. I am having a BBQ fundraiser tomorrow (Saturday) from 12pm-3pm. Please stop by, have a burger, and throw a few bucks in the bowl to get us to victory lane. It will be at the Chevron on the southeast corner of Antelope Rd and Auburn Blvd. Thanks!!!

Bret

Bret,
I hope you dont mind.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=55552&stc=1&d=1273870321

I will also have a few bumper stickers to donate to the cause. Bret can either give them away or put money in the bowl and get a free sticker:)
I look forward to see you guys there.

Bizcuits
05-14-2010, 2:03 PM
How and where did you get the back decal sticker for the window? How much?

Mstrty
05-14-2010, 2:23 PM
How and where did you get the back decal sticker for the window? How much?

As long as Bret doesnt have an issue with it. I sure he will contact me if he does.

Edit: PM me if you want to donate to Bret's Campaign to to get a rear window decal

Bret Daniels
05-15-2010, 2:39 AM
Ok it's 2am (and no, I haven't been at the bar) and at the risk of getting a little rummy, I'll respond to a few questions/comments. As far as any signs/stickers some of you might be creating on your own, I fully support and encourage you to do so. Feel free to distribute anything like that as you wish.

Regarding Captain Cooper's comment abt databases and such, that was a mixture of responses and he was actually talking abt Captain Jones at that point and the allegation that Jones provided confidential law enforcement related information to known ex-felons on an on-going business. I believe the audio of that is still available on Hogue's site but let me know if you need me to repost it and I will.

Regarding my termination, after running unsuccessfully against Sheriff Blanas, I took a trip to AZ where I asked an officer there if he could help me locate a friend that I hadn't seen for abt 10 years. He was not able to locate any information for me and provided me none. Later it was learned that he had conducted a criminal history check on my friend and that got back to my department. During an Internal Affairs interview, I admitted that I asked him to help me but that I had not asked him to run a check (he later testified that I in fact had NOT asked him to do so). When the department couldn't come up with another reason to discipline me, they charged me with numerous allegations of dishonesty. Essentially, all of them were thrown out with the exception that they determined that I was dishonest when I said I couldn't remember if I gave the officer in AZ my identifying information. I actually took a lie detector test, which I passed completely on the first time, and offered to give up my chance at $250,000 in back pay if they would simply drop the matter and reinstate me and Blanas said no. I leave it to the reader to determne if it was justified or politically motivated.

Regarding my experience (or lack thereof), let me start with my opponents. What exactly is their experience? A failed effort year after year to provide adequate protection to the citizens of Sac County and a refusal to allow you to exercise the right to protect yourself. Part of a department that responded in abysmal fashion to what should have been a clearly impending budget crisis. Leadership that has resulted in possibly the worst morale in the department's history. And allegations of felony criminal activity that led to Grand Jury investigations.

My experience starts with approx 25 years of law enforcement related experience, 6 years of important political experience, and 5 years of critical mid- and upper-management business experience in the private sector. I have responded to more that 20,000 law enforcement calls in my career, more than both of my opponents combined. I know each of the members on the Board of Supervisors and can work with them to get things done. I know most of the councilmembers throughout the region and will be able to work with them to bring my ideas for regionalism to the department. I know the importance of tax dollars and how to spend them wisely and it is why I am supported by Joe Sullivan, the former President and Executive Director of the Sacramento County Taxpayers League. I know how important it is to watch the bottom line and pay attention to every aspect of a business.

And yes, I believe in your right to keep and bear arms and I will protect that right and allow you to exercise it as your next Sheriff.

Hope to see some of you in a few hours and if you would like to help with the campaign but can't make it out, I don't have GunPal but I do have PayPal available through my website at www.BretDanielsForSheriff.com or you can mail a contribution to PO Box 197, Citrus Hts, 95611.

Thanks for you support.

Bret

Moto_Joe
05-15-2010, 8:08 AM
Bret, I can't make it out to the BBQ today unfortunately as I already had other plans to go shooting with my grandfather. After reading your above reply, I'll be donating to your campaign when I get home this afternoon and you can plan on my vote.

Good luck this afternoon at the BBQ.

Mstrty
05-15-2010, 1:34 PM
Bret,
Thanks for the great conversation today. I enjoyed spending time with you and your friends.
Calgunners,
Im lousy with names so I apoligize. It was nice meeting you guys.
All we need is 50% +1 vote in June.
If no one gets 50% The top 2 will runoff in November.

ArmedWolf
05-15-2010, 7:57 PM
Was a nice Hang out and you are a great guy Bret. Was cool to see you there Bombmaster, I returned with my camera but not much was happening after I got back so mostly hung out, chowed on food till they cleaned up then headed to Sacramento Black Rifle to hang.

Here is a link to the PSD I made for the lawn signs.
18x24" - http://www.box.net/shared/y4px59mz6y
18x27" - http://www.box.net/shared/z3889ju1zx

Bret Daniels
05-15-2010, 10:46 PM
Had a GREAT time today with everybody that showed up for the BBQ. We raised some much needed $$$ but still have a ways to go to be able to get signs out. I can't do this on my own guys. Please go to the website and make a contribution today.

www.BretDanielsForSheriff.com

If there are more questions that any of you have or if I haven't answered previously ones sufficiently, please let me know. While obviously the issue of 2nd Amendment rights are what most of us on here are mainly concerned with, I want you to know that my goals are much more well-rounded and my plan is to completely reinvent the Sacramento Sheriff's Dept into the most respected agency in California and a model for other Sheriffs to follow.

I need your help to get there.

Bret

jlh95811
05-15-2010, 11:47 PM
Thank you so much for the responses Bret. I truly believe that you have the ideas and guts to make Sacramento a safer place for all of us.
I was so sad to hear current Sheriff McGinness using the 2nd Amendment and our right to carry as a political ploy in light of impending department cuts. He said if Deputies need be laid off he'd be forced to issue more CCW's. Anyone seen CCw's on the rise? I'm sure we'd have heard about it by now.
Anyways; You're my guy Bret Daniels. You embody the ideals that many of us hold dear. You have my support.
I just lost my job AND my car broke down. The car being the only reason I did not make it out today. Regardless of my situation I will be contributing to your campaign and hope to see you as our next Sheriff.

spegull03
05-18-2010, 1:53 PM
Bump! I made a contribution last night, hopefully it helps get the word out.

The Director
05-18-2010, 2:18 PM
I live in Socal, but this guy seems stand up!

Bump for Bret Daniels! Go get 'em!

Mstrty
05-20-2010, 10:21 PM
Bret is the best choice we got.I started this one about his files (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=4322390#post4322390)