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DavidRSA
05-12-2010, 8:00 PM
Are these still being made anywhere? If not when were the last one's made? I was hoping they are still being made, but in more affordable calibers like .223.

Crawfish141
05-12-2010, 8:06 PM
http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/index.html

The Mini-14 is the closest thing in .223.

pyromensch
05-12-2010, 8:32 PM
used to be that springfield armory made them in 308 and 25-06, but i haven't checked them out in years.
if you still want one, and can deal with the 30-06, check out CMP civilian marksmanship program

Paratus et Vigilans
05-12-2010, 8:54 PM
Fulton Armory still builds new Garands. Dean's Gun Restoration (a/k/a DGR) will make you a "new" one from a mixture of old and new parts and new stocks and barrels. Springfield Armory quit making new ones a couple of years ago. CMP is always a good source for originals, as well as the for sale forum here on Calguns.

A .223 Garand would not be a Garand! It's strictly a .30-06 or .308 game with the Garand. Get yourself a CMP rifle and some of the Greek .30-06 ammo and have at it. :)

A .223 Garand. Honestly! :rolleyes:

Plisk
05-12-2010, 9:12 PM
A .223 Garand. Honestly! :rolleyes:

:iagree:

mls343
05-13-2010, 4:04 AM
+ 1000

If you want a .223/5.56, go the AR route.

Leave the Garand a Garand.

reidnez
05-13-2010, 6:37 AM
CMP is the way to go. I have a service grade with new wood. It's a great shooter.

+1000. New wood, new barrel, everything re-park'd and tighter than...well, tighter than an analogy I won't make on a public forum :). It's like having a rifle that just rolled out of the factory in 1943.

A Garand in .223? Naw...keep the Garand as John intended it. There are plenty of affordable weapons which were designed around .223. Ok, I will admit that I've had fantasies of re-barreling my M1 in 8mm Mauser, because the ammo is so cheap and plentiful (plus, both external case size and ballistics are very similar to .30-06). But there is something so historically wrong with that picture, I think the ghosts of 1,000 veterans from both sides would haunt me. :eek:

gasol1ne
05-13-2010, 7:41 PM
like crawfish said: the mini14 is kinda like a .223 garand.

CSDGuy
05-13-2010, 8:20 PM
Mini-14 is more like an M14/M1A in .223...

In any event, if I were to re-do a Garand in a different caliber than .30/06 or .308/ or 7.62mm... I'd probably have it done in .270 Pedersen or very similar intermediate cartridge in that caliber. Why? The M1 was originally designed for that and in late trials, the various designers had to re-design to the .30/06 because the War Department said they were sticking with that caliber. The Garand was able to successfully be redesigned. The original design held 10 rounds instead of 8.

RRangel
05-13-2010, 8:25 PM
I'm pretty sure Springfield Armory did sell brand spanking new Garands in 308. a few years back. I'd still rather have a CMP rifle.

DavidRSA
05-13-2010, 8:51 PM
Very very enticing.....CMP looks the way to go. I see another few grand vanishing from the checking account! Hope I can get my C&R license soon to save having to use an FFL....

Josh3239
05-13-2010, 11:01 PM
I think just Fulton. Century was making them for a while but I don't think they are doing anymore. Auto Ordinance/Kahr did some M1 Carbines but I don't think they ever did any Garands.

rc50cal
05-13-2010, 11:20 PM
The CMP has a grade of Garand that it calls "Special grade" ($995) that has new stocks and barrels. I imagine they make great shooters and look great too. The CMP also has service grade ($595) and correct grade garands ($1100) available right now too.

Twinspool
05-14-2010, 4:34 AM
John Garand wanted the M1 to be a .276 Pedersen, some general didn't want to manufacture new ammo so they used all the leftover .30.

NiteQwill
05-14-2010, 5:57 AM
Very very enticing.....CMP looks the way to go. I see another few grand vanishing from the checking account! Hope I can get my C&R license soon to save having to use an FFL....

You don't need a C&R or an FFL.

CMP will ship directly to your door.

usmcchet9296
05-14-2010, 6:51 AM
Didnt enterprise arms make M1 recievers?

DavidRSA
05-14-2010, 2:07 PM
You don't need a C&R or an FFL.

CMP will ship directly to your door.

How is this possible? Not that I am complaining if you are right!!

Josh3239
05-14-2010, 2:11 PM
No you do not need an FFL, CMP does ship straight to your door.

Dr Rockso
05-14-2010, 2:16 PM
How is this possible? Not that I am complaining if you are right!!
Being a congressionally chartered program has its advantages.

DavidRSA
05-14-2010, 2:20 PM
No you do not need an FFL, CMP does ship straight to your door.

Wow!! How is this possible? How can one purchase a functioning rifle without going through an FFL or a DROS etc? Whats the loophole?

telcolineman
05-14-2010, 2:28 PM
It is a war relic and over 50 years old, No FFL required, They just make sure you are over 18 and can legally own a firearm

Josh3239
05-14-2010, 2:34 PM
Wow!! How is this possible? How can one purchase a functioning rifle without going through an FFL or a DROS etc? Whats the loophole?

No loopholes, something is either legal or it isn't.

Title 36 U. S. Code, 40701-40733 allows the CMP to sell surplus military rifles and ammunition to US citizens if they can prove they have US citizenship, the minimum age, familiarity with firearms, and can legally own a firearm. Plus they are considered relics, they are 50 years and older and can be shipped to your door. No California law forbids this.

CMP: About US (http://odcmp.com/about_us.htm)
Eligibility Requirements (http://www.thecmp.org/eligibility.htm)
Order Forms (http://www.thecmp.org/formsindex.htm)

Baja_Traveler
05-14-2010, 3:04 PM
You just send them proof of US residency (a copy of your passport will do), and proof of membership in an affiliated club. Somewhere on the CMP website they show the list of gun clubs that qualify.

It used to be that you also had to shoot in a qualifying match to get one, but I believe that has changed since I got mine back in '87. The Garand they sent me is equivalent to the now Special Grade. It's a tack driver with that new barrel.

Oh yea - total cost to my door was $165... I should a got two!

The Custard Pirate
05-14-2010, 3:20 PM
Springfield Armory, a privately owned company, not the government arsenal, is building new M1s on receivers they manufacture. No info on reliability. In the past, a few companies have tried to manufacture receivers but they don't have a very good reputation for reliability, including, especially including, those marketed by Century.
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/M19102.asp

chino
05-14-2010, 5:03 PM
CMP requirements.
http://www.thecmp.org/eligibility.htm

They'll run a background check based on the provided information. Rifle used to be shipped FEDEX with a signature required. Years ago I purchased an M44 and a Garand, since I missed the delivery I had to go to the local FEDEX center. Felt odd walking out while carrying two weapons without first inspecting them :whistling:

ar15barrels
05-14-2010, 6:03 PM
A Garand in .223? Naw...keep the Garand as John intended it.

Garand intended it to be chambered in 276 pederson but the war dept wanted it to be in 30-06 for logistical reasons.
Hence we have it in 30-06.

Army
05-14-2010, 9:16 PM
Hmmmmmmm....a dimensionally correct .223 Garand would be really cute and cuddly :)