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davemak
05-11-2010, 11:04 AM
Hello Calguns,

I am currently looking for an ideal lever action rifle, I need some advice from you guys on these manners. I want a good rifle, that can hold a higher count of ammo, and shoot ammo that are generally cheaper. There are some that shoots .44 and some that shoots 30-30. I know there are a lot of good ones out there like the Browning BLR or Marlin Models, what I can't find on the internet is mainly how many rounds each rifle can hold. Some websites said this rifle holds 13 some just say 4. I will be primarly use this for range shooting and hopefully in the future hog hunting. So I was hoping you guys can point me to the right direction. Thanks

sixtringr
05-11-2010, 11:12 AM
Davemak,
I have two Mod 94s one in 30-30 and one in 44mag. The 30-30 holds five, the 44 holds 10 if I remember right. The longer the bullet the less the tube holds. If you want to hunt with it get the biggest caliber you can. If you want fun my buddy has a 94 in 357 and it is a balst to shoot.

buffybuster
05-11-2010, 11:15 AM
Of the leveractions that are easily available, my recommendation would be for a Marlin. Either a M336 in 30WCF (30-30) or M1894 in (.357Mag, .44Mag or .45Colt).

Depending on how long the magazine tube is going to dictate how many rounds it will hold. Of course the 30-30 is much longer than the others and thus hold few rounds, but has better longer range performance.

The Browning BLR's are really lever operated bolt actions and have box magazines.

DJDace
05-11-2010, 12:06 PM
Of the leveractions that are easily available, my recommendation would be for a Marlin. Either a M336 in 30WCF (30-30) or M1894 in (.357Mag, .44Mag or .45Colt).

Depending on how long the magazine tube is going to dictate how many rounds it will hold. Of course the 30-30 is much longer than the others and thus hold few rounds, but has better longer range performance.

The Browning BLR's are really lever operated bolt actions and have box magazines.

I have owned both the models listed above. While the model 336A in 30-30 was a nice rifle, without a Pachmayer pad, the kick got bothersome after 10-15 rounds.

Now, my 1894 Cowboy Comp in .45 Colt, that's my baby. I had the action slicked up by Jim Bowie and now it's slick as snot and I ain't lyin'. The straight grip English style stock is easy to handle, the rifle shoulders naturally and with the 20" barrel is lightweight and maneuverable. Recoil is negligible even with stout factory loads.

I love that rifle and plan to be buried with it along with my pair of nickel Single Action Army's :D

telcolineman
05-11-2010, 12:09 PM
I agree with DJDace, The 336 in 30-30 has a fairly stout kick. A good recoil pad will tame it, I love my Marlin 336w

remington
05-11-2010, 12:12 PM
For pigs, I like my Winchester Timber in .444. With new the hornady rounds, under 200 yards and its done, one shot.

Wikipedia" To put the power comparison in another way, the typical .444 Marlin rifle, has more impact energy at 200yds, than a 4" barreled 44 magnum has at the muzzle". I cant verify that but many on the forum can i am sure.

But my lever passion is the Savage 99. A .300 Savage is a very under rated round at short range like 200 or less.

buffybuster
05-11-2010, 12:17 PM
30-30 = rifle cartridge
.45Colt = handgun cartridge

As "anemic" as the 30-30 is compared to modern rifle cartridges, it hits harder and has a much flatter trajectory than any M1894 safe .45Colt load.

Army GI
05-11-2010, 12:22 PM
30-30 = rifle cartridge
.45Colt = handgun cartridge

As "anemic" as the 30-30 is compared to modern rifle cartridges, it hits harder and has a much flatter trajectory than any M1894 safe .45Colt load.

I usually have a stock reply for these sorts of threads. But the above quote pretty much sums it up.

While .45 Colt and .44 Magnum guns are neat and all (I used to own a Winchester 94 in .45 Colt), unless you're going to do Cowboy Action Shooting, get the 30-30. It's more powerful and more versatile than any pistol caliber carbine.

A Winchester '92 firing black powder .45 Colt or .44-40 is fun to shoot, and can certainly kill a deer. But a 30-30 can do it from farther away, with more penetration, and with less holdover.

hasserl
05-11-2010, 3:48 PM
Check out the Mossberg lever action rifles: http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=31

The 464 is somewhat derived from the old Winchester model 94. I'm sure plenty of people will criticize that and claim it's nowhere near as nice as their 94, or their Marlin, but the Mossbergs get pretty good reviews, check out some of the info here: http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&btnG=Search#hl=en&q=mossberg+464+lever+action&aq=f&aqi=g6&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=a537d44c67dd0bd9

FWIW I just picked up one of these a short time ago, but have not had it out in the field just yet, hope to soon.

Jonathan Doe
05-11-2010, 4:35 PM
I recently purchased a Marlin 1895 Cowboy in 45-70 Gov't with 26" octagon barrel. I like it a lot.

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/5topgun/Guns/DSC_0003Medium.jpg

taperxz
05-11-2010, 4:43 PM
Mod 1894 Winchester is the way to go as long as you get one prior to about 1974. These were still made like the pre 64's. 30-30 is the best all around cartridge IMO however a 32ws has a bit more power. With the 32ws though, the barrel can become quite worn. Model 1894 Winchester in 30-30 is the way to go!

davemak
05-11-2010, 8:47 PM
thanks for the input! I been reading about the Cross Bolt Safety that they started putting on the rifles after 84 or 85, a lot of people complain about them, are they just any regular safety? is there a real annoyance to these safeties? Thanks!

pyromensch
05-11-2010, 8:55 PM
I recently purchased a Marlin 1895 Cowboy in 45-70 Gov't with 26" octagon barrel. I like it a lot.

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/5topgun/Guns/DSC_0003Medium.jpg

i've got an 1895, but i like your's alot better.

but with all the criteria you mentioned, get a marlin in 357 mag. it will do you good on pigs, with the right load, it will hold a lot, especially using 38 spl. and 38 or 357 are more plentiful, and therefore cheaper to shoot.

Hank Dodge
05-11-2010, 9:51 PM
thanks for the input! I been reading about the Cross Bolt Safety that they started putting on the rifles after 84 or 85, a lot of people complain about them, are they just any regular safety? is there a real annoyance to these safeties? Thanks!


The cross bolt safeties suck because you can inadvertently engage them and they are not intuitively placed on the weapon. I've seen guys at a match come up to the line and go "click-rack-click-rack" jacking out two live rounds before they realize that the darn safety is inadvertently on. I like the older leverguns where the only safety is the operator. I've never in all the years of shooting a levergun found a need for a manual safety on one.

As for what caliber to get? I'd stick with the modern basics ( .30-30, .45-70, .357, .44 mag, .45 Colt ) those will do anything you could need a levergun to do. Figure out what you will use it for. The pistol calibers are great defensive guns and are useful for hunting at reasonable distances. The rifle calibers offer a bit more at longer ranges, but the ammunition costs are higher. Personally, I like the .44 mag in a levergun. Do you own a revolver? It's not a bad idea to pair up based on caliber. I like being able to carry one round for both handgun and rifle.

Hope this helps...

echo1
05-12-2010, 9:19 PM
Take your pick
Top Savage 99F in .308, 5 round rotory mag. Kills eveything in Noth America
Center Marlin 30AS in .30-30, 6 rounds - 5 in tube. Kills everying Kali
Botton Wnchester '94 in .30-30 Assault weapon of its day
Endless opinions and choices. Pistols cals in rifles are neat for .22s. But it's sort of like a car that's a boat or a car that flys, not really the best for either. I want a BLR take down in .30-06
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac159/adpax/default/guns/DSCN0089.jpg

Ishoot
05-12-2010, 9:25 PM
I say the M336. Have one and it it's a blast to shoot.