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JDay
05-10-2010, 10:38 PM
Apple can suck it.

http://mobile.venturebeat.com/2010/05/10/google-android-outsells-apple-iphone-ranked-second-in-u-s-smartphone-market/

Smartphones based on Google’s Android mobile operating system have outsold Apple’s iPhone in the U.S. during the first quarter of 2010, according to a report by research firm The NPD Group. The data places Android, with 28 percent of the smartphone market, in second place behind RIM’s Blackberry smartphone market share of 36 percent. Apple now sits in third place with 21 percent.

CnCFunFactory
05-10-2010, 10:47 PM
Apple can suck it.

http://mobile.venturebeat.com/2010/05/10/google-android-outsells-apple-iphone-ranked-second-in-u-s-smartphone-market/

Android is a platform, not a phone. All this shows is that Android -- represented by a dozen (or more) different phones from different manufacturers on different phone carriers -- can, all together, outsell the iPhone -- one of 3 models of phone produced by a single manufacturer and sold on a single U.S. phone carrier. And one of those Android carriers had to practically give the phone away. This isn't news.

JDay
05-10-2010, 10:51 PM
Android is a platform, not a phone. All this shows is that Android -- represented by a dozen (or more) different phones from different manufacturers on different phone carriers -- can, all together, outsell the iPhone -- one of 3 models of phone produced by a single manufacturer and sold on a single U.S. phone carrier. And one of those Android carriers had to practically give the phone away. This isn't news.

Nobody has practically given the phone away, and if Android wasn't good the devices wouldn't be selling. Open platforms are always better than a locked down one.

Full Clip
05-10-2010, 10:58 PM
I'll take quality over quantity.
The iPhone has its issues, and isn't that great as a phone (given the coverage), but I still love mine.

paintballergb
05-10-2010, 11:07 PM
I love love love my Driod. It's legit.

wilit
05-10-2010, 11:08 PM
"However, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone." - Steve Jobs

Porn killed Betamax, perhaps the iPhone is next.

uzigalil
05-10-2010, 11:28 PM
Google's android ops running on there nexus one was a Failure, Verizon is now offering Motorola droids buy one get one deal, Most phone manufactures are offering multiple phones running on android they should be selling more, but the I phone development, focus on function and design philosophy and implementation are far more calculating and satisfying to the user.

FreedomIsNotFree
05-10-2010, 11:52 PM
Google's android ops running on there nexus one was a Failure, Verizon is now offering Motorola droids buy one get one deal, Most phone manufactures are offering multiple phones running on android they should be selling more, but the I phone development, focus on function and design philosophy and implementation are far more calculating and satisfying to the user.

That is completely subjective. Well, other than the misrepresentations regarding the "failure" of the Android Market.

FreedomIsNotFree
05-11-2010, 12:02 AM
Android is a platform, not a phone. All this shows is that Android -- represented by a dozen (or more) different phones from different manufacturers on different phone carriers -- can, all together, outsell the iPhone -- one of 3 models of phone produced by a single manufacturer and sold on a single U.S. phone carrier. And one of those Android carriers had to practically give the phone away. This isn't news.

From someone that works in the industry, let me tell you that this IS absolutely news. The Android OS has grown exponentially over the past 6 months. Consequently, the user base has also exploded which will lead to increased revenue for devs, programmers and advertisers. If the user base continues to grow at this rate, which there is no reason to believe will slow in the short term, coupled with the iPhone exclusivity and BB's decline, Android will be the dominant OS in the country.

And this report is prior to both the Incredible and EVO 4G.

Scratch705
05-11-2010, 12:14 AM
go android. suck it apple.

Barabas
05-12-2010, 8:52 AM
The iphone OS, and apple fanboys, reminds me of the movie Gattica. Everything is clean and sanitized for your consumption. You are allowed to do anything you want as long as it is within the choices given to you by the designers. Deviate from the norm and you are a criminal.

Android and its users remind me of every dystopian future sci-fi flick, where daily life might suck and the interface is dirty, but if you manage to figure out how everything works, you can make miracles happen. And there is no one there to save you from yourself.

gravedigger
05-12-2010, 10:05 AM
Android and Windows are open.

Apple is closed.

Windows is constantly attacked by hackers who think they can prove they are smarter than Bill Gates.

Apple doesn't have that problem.

iPhones aren't the best, yet.

Android phones are NEW, and the focus of hackers worldwide. They will soon be as dependable (?) as a Windows o/s. I'll stick with my iPhone for now.

ocabj
05-12-2010, 10:45 AM
Apple can suck it.

http://mobile.venturebeat.com/2010/05/10/google-android-outsells-apple-iphone-ranked-second-in-u-s-smartphone-market/

And without Apple, Android would have never been created. At least, not for another 10 years.

We'd still be stuck with Blackberries and Windows Mobile.

Fantasma
05-12-2010, 12:51 PM
Android is a platform, not a phone. All this shows is that Android -- represented by a dozen (or more) different phones from different manufacturers on different phone carriers -- can, all together, outsell the iPhone -- one of 3 models of phone produced by a single manufacturer and sold on a single U.S. phone carrier. And one of those Android carriers had to practically give the phone away. This isn't news.

Apple is so locked down they will only have one new phone at a time, iphone runs on apple's OS and 2 phones were used in that study 3g 3gs. No one told Apple to be so communist and lock their phones and not let anyone use their OS but apple. Brainwashing their customers is so apparent as anyone with iphone feels like a god because they have the phone that started it all, they can't hold the crown forever.... Its their fault they don't release more phones so you can't use that Against Android.

Android is the new, free world which will over take apple if things continue on the trend, apple is losing market share, and android is gaining it. Soon we will see...

Single carrier, lol that is apples decision to only be on AT&T... and they chose the worst carrier as all iphone users I know complain about the service and rave about the phone but who cares about that phone when its dropping calls on you.

Oh yeah and the Incredible OWNS!

ocabj
05-12-2010, 1:40 PM
Apple is so locked down they will only have one new phone at a time, iphone runs on apple's OS and 2 phones were used in that study 3g 3gs. No one told Apple to be so communist and lock their phones and not let anyone use their OS but apple. Brainwashing their customers is so apparent as anyone with iphone feels like a god because they have the phone that started it all, they can't hold the crown forever.... Its their fault they don't release more phones so you can't use that Against Android.

The reason why Apple runs their own OS on their own hardware is because that's how they've always wanted to do things. It helps keeps support simple.

Look at Microsoft Windows and the support nightmare that is. Not only is there the OS, but there's all the different hardware to run with it.

If something is wrong with Mac OS, they can easily remedy the issue since they control the hardware it runs on.

While this may or may not be the way to go as far as mobile phones are concerned, that's debatable.

I've got no problem with the Android platform. But there's nothing about Android that makes me want to jump ship from the iPhone. The iPhone works fine for my workflow as is.

But with all the talk about Android being 'open', I think you're going to find that eventually, the Android platform will adopt an Apple iTunes App store style model with regards to application submission, vetting, and selling in order to maintain quality control over what goes on phones. I'd also anticipate that as Android takes a bigger market share due to all the various phones available that run Android, there will be a divergence in application support even with the latest phone revisions, unless Google can force all manufacturers to have specific specs on their products. i.e. The newest phone from one manufacturer may not work with a specific application while the newest phone from another manufacturer will.

JDay
05-12-2010, 9:10 PM
Android and Windows are open.

Apple is closed.

Windows is constantly attacked by hackers who think they can prove they are smarter than Bill Gates.

Apple doesn't have that problem.

iPhones aren't the best, yet.

Android phones are NEW, and the focus of hackers worldwide. They will soon be as dependable (?) as a Windows o/s. I'll stick with my iPhone for now.

You just showed how little you actually know about technology. Windows is not open the way Android (Open Source Software) is, MS does not release their source code. Android is a Linux based mobile operating system. The reason Mac OS doesn't get attacked as much as Windows does is because nobody wants to spend the time writing malicious code that only targets about 1% of the desktop market share. However, Macintosh viruses and worms to exist in the wild. In fact one was just discovered this month.

http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/core-dump/24847-mac-os-x-worm-time-to-get-worried

Mac OS X worm: time to get worried?

By Stephen Withers
Wednesday, 06 May 2009 05:41

Symantec says a new worm targeting Mac OS X spreads via email and network shares. But is it really a threat?

According to Symantec, the Tored worm spreads through network shares and by emailing itself to addresses gathered from the infected computer's Address Book.

It opens a back door to the computer, allowing it to be conscripted into distributed denial of service attacks as well as logging keystrokes (which could be used to steal passwords and other confidential information).

There is no indication that Tored can execute without user intervention. For example, Symantec does not seem to suggest that there are any issues with Mac OS X mail clients that could cause the code to be automatically executed when the message is opened.

The company says there are a very small number of Tored infections at no more than two sites, and that the worm is easily contained and removed, and does little damage.

Tored has been given a risk level of 1, the lowest on Symantec's scale.

But was Tored really discovered on May 5, as Symantec claims?

Not if it is the same Tored that Intego reported last week as being discovered on April 22.

According to Intego, Tored is a proof-of-concept created with RealBasic, which is not the malware writers' usual tool of choice.

Intego says the malware works by copying itself into the System and System/Library/StartupItems folders so it runs automatically after subsequent logins.

Tored attempts to spread using "an SMTP server that is currently non-existent" so that doesn't get it very far. Furthermore, "the code in this malware is faulty, and it does not work correctly, so there is no real threat from this malware."

So it would seem that the usual precautions (not blindly opening every attachment that arrives by email, or every file that appears in shared folders) would suffice, and even if you are careless there may not be any real harm done.

Sophos added Tored detection to its antivirus products last weekend. Senior technology consultant Graham Cluely described it as "a lame email worm" and said "Bugs in the worm's code, however, mean it is unlikely that you will ever encounter it, even if the author had taken the time to correct the many spelling mistakes in the emails it tries to send. So don't lose too much sleep."

"For now, I think a much more real threat for Apple fanatics is that of websites hosting malicious applications designed to undermine their Mac's security," he added, in a reference to the RSPlug malware.

But bugs can be fixed, and mail servers put into action. So to borrow a slogan, it's time to be alert, not alarmed.

Here's another link for you to look at.

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/96/

JDay
05-12-2010, 9:12 PM
And without Apple, Android would have never been created. At least, not for another 10 years.

We'd still be stuck with Blackberries and Windows Mobile.

Says you.

DiscoBayJoe
05-12-2010, 9:16 PM
I'm not an Apple Fanboi, but I love my iPhone. A Jailbroken iPhone 3G running Backgrounder, Kirikae, MiWi, and Intelliscreen is the hottest mobile device available.

What this report showed is that Verizon/Sprint could release phones in Q1 and outsell AT&T's iPhone that's been out for 2 quarters prior. Just wait until the quarter when the next-gen iPhone comes out.....

Last week I was in NYC watching SlingBox on my laptop that was Tethered from my Iphone while talking via Bluetooth Headset to my Girlfriend thru the same phone. I' was getting 2Mb+ 3G speeds. It was faster than the hotel wireless and didn't cost $10/day!

Lets see a droid (or any Verizon/Sprint phone for that matter) do that!

JDay
05-12-2010, 9:17 PM
If something is wrong with Mac OS, they can easily remedy the issue since they control the hardware it runs on.

Issues that relate to hardware involve drivers and not the OS itself. You also ignore the fact that there is a wide range of hardware you can buy for a mac. Everything from input devices, RAID controllers, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0, firewire and a wide range of video cards just to name a few.

But with all the talk about Android being 'open', I think you're going to find that eventually, the Android platform will adopt an Apple iTunes App store style model with regards to application submission, vetting, and selling in order to maintain quality control over what goes on phones.

The different carriers are free to have their own app stores, however there will never be an android marketplace that is like the App Store. Apples (only if we say you can) application approval model is the reason why their app store is flooded with hundreds of apps that do the exact same thing. It kills innovation and discourages developers since they do not want to spend the time to write an app that they have no way of knowing will be approved or not. It also costs money to develop for the iPhone whereas you can develop apps for Android without any out of pocket expense.

jtv3062
05-13-2010, 5:58 PM
EVO 4g is rumored to able to talk and surf at the same time. I'm waiting on the EVO

DiscoBayJoe
05-13-2010, 6:07 PM
EVO 4g is rumored to able to talk and surf at the same time. I'm waiting on the EVO

from the Press Release (http://bit.ly/dlOMcc) :


Simultaneous voice and data capability in 4G and Wi-Fi coverage areas, enabling Web surfing and more while the conversation continues.


Looking at their 4G Site, San Francisco and Los Angeles say "Soon", with no clear map of expected 4G Coverage. Weak!

Here's what I get right now on AT&T 3G, from a BAD location with only 2 bars while doing a voice call:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs539.snc3/30559_422257756822_563416822_5375629_6217301_n.jpg

I will admit the EVO hardware specs appear pretty hot tho!

JDay
05-13-2010, 6:14 PM
EVO 4g is rumored to able to talk and surf at the same time. I'm waiting on the EVO

Its not true 4g, its WiMax and has a max speed of 6mbit. True 4g is 100mbit. If you want a true 4g Android phone wait until Verizon rolls their 4g (LTE) network out later this year. Sprints so called 4g is outdated technology.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224701832

Federal Communications Commission chairman Julius Genachowski and commissioner Meredith Baker Wednesday hailed Verizon Wireless' plan to bring its robust Long-Term Evolution network to rural areas. Verizon has already committed to deploy LTE in at least 25 U.S. urban areas by the end of the year.

Verizon Wireless, which is jointly owned by Verizon Communications and Vodafone Group, would have much to gain by rolling out LTE in rural areas and the high-speed service could be a boon for consumers in rural areas as well.

"Bringing the benefits of mobile broadband to rural America is one of the Commission's top priorities," Genachowski and Baker said in a joint statement. "The news of Verizon Wireless' plan to partner with rural providers to accelerate investment in 4G networks is very encouraging. Seamless universal connectivity is essential to economic growth and world-class technology leadership."

The joint statement is a rare current example of agreement among FCC commissioners from different political parties. Genachowski is a Democrat and Baker a Republican.

jtv3062
05-13-2010, 6:27 PM
Disco by the end of the year for San francisco. LA was add to the list recently.

JD I can recall on the top of my head but the company who is partnered with sprint on the WIMax is commited until 2012 and a possible switch over to LTE so maybe sprint will switch over

JDay
05-13-2010, 9:07 PM
Disco by the end of the year for San francisco. LA was add to the list recently.

JD I can recall on the top of my head but the company who is partnered with sprint on the WIMax is commited until 2012 and a possible switch over to LTE so maybe sprint will switch over

They're not going to deploy their WiMax network and then turn around and spend billions more to convert it over to LTE. Network rollouts are long term investments. If they were smart they would have ditched their WiMax plans several years ago.

jtv3062
05-13-2010, 9:28 PM
Clearwire made a comment about it a few days ago.

The evo was clocked as high as 12/13mbs in Las Vegas. Verison was around 6mbs. I found all of this on google. I can't copy and paste here to prove what I read but it's just the internet anyways.

jtv3062
05-13-2010, 9:40 PM
Well Verison did 8.5 mbps in boston yesterday.

chris
05-13-2010, 9:48 PM
i like my DROID. still trying to figure the thing out.

JDay
05-13-2010, 9:51 PM
Clearwire made a comment about it a few days ago.

The evo was clocked as high as 12/13mbs in Las Vegas. Verison was around 6mbs. I found all of this on google. I can't copy and paste here to prove what I read but it's just the internet anyways.

Clearwire is not Sprint, Sprint is just one of thier partners. I also wouldn't doubt that this was a controlled demonstration that used a mobile tower that was not open to the public.

Richie Caketown
05-13-2010, 9:51 PM
dont forget that Sprint with their easy credit checks and low priced HTC heros is knocking these phones out left and right . Its not entirely about software as much as it is Plan pricing and phone cost.

jtv3062
05-13-2010, 10:11 PM
funny you say that JD on another site people are saying the same thing about verisons test in Boston and that Sprints test was on a commercial tower in use

Trendkill
05-13-2010, 10:23 PM
"However, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone." - Steve Jobs

Porn killed Betamax, perhaps the iPhone is next.

My buddy has zero problems gettin porn on his I-phone......trust me.

jtv3062
05-13-2010, 10:31 PM
Sprint owns the majority of Clearwire.
from goingwimax.com

FreedomIsNotFree
05-14-2010, 12:00 AM
Android phones are NEW, and the focus of hackers worldwide. They will soon be as dependable (?) as a Windows o/s. I'll stick with my iPhone for now.

Android uses a Linux based kernal. Linux is extremely secure and no damage can occur unless a virus/trojan gains root access to the OS, which must be granted by the end user. Even then, the damage is sequestered.

The security is inherent in the OS itself...nothing like Windows.

FreedomIsNotFree
05-14-2010, 12:07 AM
dont forget that Sprint with their easy credit checks and low priced HTC heros is knocking these phones out left and right . Its not entirely about software as much as it is Plan pricing and phone cost.

Q1 2010 was yet another bad one for Sprint. They lost money and subscribers. The only silver lining is that didn't lose as much as the previous quarter.

Sprint report $865m loss in Q1 2010: peg hopes on HTC EVO 4G (http://www.slashgear.com/sprint-report-865-loss-in-q1-2010-peg-hopes-on-htc-evo-4g-2883451/)

JDay
05-14-2010, 1:09 PM
Android uses a Linux based kernal. Linux is extremely secure and no damage can occur unless a virus/trojan gains root access to the OS, which must be granted by the end user. Even then, the damage is sequestered.

The security is inherent in the OS itself...nothing like Windows.

UAC in Vista and 7 works the same way, Windows has come a long way security wise. In fact UAC works much like OS X's elevated privileges prompt.

jarhead995
05-14-2010, 11:49 PM
I'm not an Apple Fanboi, but I love my iPhone. A Jailbroken iPhone 3G running Backgrounder, Kirikae, MiWi, and Intelliscreen is the hottest mobile device available.

What this report showed is that Verizon/Sprint could release phones in Q1 and outsell AT&T's iPhone that's been out for 2 quarters prior. Just wait until the quarter when the next-gen iPhone comes out.....

Last week I was in NYC watching SlingBox on my laptop that was Tethered from my Iphone while talking via Bluetooth Headset to my Girlfriend thru the same phone. I' was getting 2Mb+ 3G speeds. It was faster than the hotel wireless and didn't cost $10/day!

Lets see a droid (or any Verizon/Sprint phone for that matter) do that!

You stay at some junky hotels.

Hozr
05-15-2010, 10:19 AM
EVO 4g is rumored to able to talk and surf at the same time. I'm waiting on the EVO

Read the fine print before you buy the EVO. There are many feature advertised which will NOT be available - just like iPhone. You can kiss off tethering from the get go.

One quarter is not indicative of the lifespan of the OS, development will have to be fairly well regulated and supported to maintain longevity. Another main reason apple so tightly controls it's source, and this is true of MAC as well, is they are less "easy" to attack. I'm no apple fan but I love my iPhone. What I really hate is AT&T right now.

TonyM
05-15-2010, 11:56 AM
Last week I was in NYC watching SlingBox on my laptop that was Tethered from my Iphone while talking via Bluetooth Headset to my Girlfriend thru the same phone. I' was getting 2Mb+ 3G speeds. It was faster than the hotel wireless and didn't cost $10/day!

Lets see a droid (or any Verizon/Sprint phone for that matter) do that!

Since we're moving to AT&T's advertisement feature list...

When I'm talking to my wife on the phone I have learned that I pay 100% attention to her. I don't watch TV at the same time. Maybe if you learned this, you'd be married, Joe. :43: Also, not paying 100% attention can get you in trouble... "You agreed that I should buy that jewelry, remember when we were on the phone?" ;)

Honestly, I was an AT&T user from way back through the Pacbell, AT&T, Cingular, and AT&T again rotation. Before the last rotation back to AT&T when they were Cingular and hadn't sold those towers to Tmobile, the coverage up here was good. After they turned on 3G and sold some towers the signals got poor. I moved to Verizon in November/December and haven't looked back. I don't miss Data+Voice at the same time. I didn't have it for years on AT&T with EDGE, but the service worked, kinda like Verizon does now.

On AT&T on my 70 mile commute I would drop calls in 7 known locations (that I reported to AT&T many times over 3 years), plus a couple more times "just because". Now, on Verizon I only sometimes drop in one location on Vasco road.

Everytime I talk to one of my friends on AT&T I now give them the crap I always used to get when our calls drop. :D

Rob454
05-15-2010, 3:23 PM
"However, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone." - Steve Jobs

Porn killed Betamax, perhaps the iPhone is next.

I dont know dude. i can download porn just fine on my Iphone.:D