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Whoa Nellie
05-06-2010, 1:35 PM
Watching their riots on tv it seems like they should be armed. They arent. I wonder if they have personal ownership of guns in that country ?

a1c
05-06-2010, 1:37 PM
Only licensed hunters can own long guns in Greece (and I believe only shotguns and some rimfire and centerfire calibers). Forget about handguns.

Vladimir
05-06-2010, 1:39 PM
my friends dad is from Greece, hes in more of a remote area. Im not sure on their laws, but he did have shotguns that he shoots when he goes there.

POLICESTATE
05-06-2010, 1:41 PM
I'm sure if guns were as plentiful in Greece as they are here we would have seen some shootings by now. hell they burned 3 people to death already.

Whoa Nellie
05-06-2010, 1:48 PM
I'm sure if guns were as plentiful in Greece as they are here we would have seen some shootings by now. hell they burned 3 people to death already.

I agree

loather
05-06-2010, 2:03 PM
Just goes to show that if someone wants someone else dead, they'll find a method to make it happen, regardless of what is and what isn't legal.

CCWFacts
05-06-2010, 2:40 PM
My understanding is that, like all Socialist countries, Greece has very strong gun control. However, Greeks have little respect for their own laws. Part of their fiscal problem is that tax evasion is rampant. I believe that many also ignore their gun laws, and some parts of Greece are almost not under government control.

Here's an article about the serious lack of gun law enforcement (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greek-police-retreat-after-ambush-by-cretan-drug-gangsters-399984.html) in Crete, claiming that Crete has the highest rate of gun ownership in Europe. I can see that it's pretty hard for Greek police to come to Crete and tell a WWII resistance fighter (or his son) to give up a captured German MG.

One of my ideas for Greece to raise some Euros is to start selling various types of gun permits. Wanna carry an MG? You can do it in Greece, for a price! Of course, they won't do anything like that, but will just beg for bailouts.

Manic Moran
05-06-2010, 3:42 PM
Like most European countries, firearms are legal in Greece, to include handguns. However, like most European countries, they're licensed for sporting purposes only. Going around carrying one on the street is going to get you put away for quite a while.

NTM

ssilverado60
05-06-2010, 4:31 PM
Part of their fiscal problem is that tax evasion is rampant.


yeah tax evasion is why greece has all these problems . . .:rolleyes:

nick
05-06-2010, 4:53 PM
It's just one of the examples of how little they follow the laws there (and in most of the rest of the world). So whatever laws they have doesn't really mean that they don't have guns.

1lostinspace
05-06-2010, 5:00 PM
When I was out there people had shotguns and rifles. I never saw a handgun or assault rifle but it's about $250 us dollars to get one if you really wanted one out there. And I am not talking semi.

CCWFacts
05-06-2010, 5:17 PM
yeah tax evasion is why greece has all these problems . . .:rolleyes:

I wouldn't put it that way. The root of their problems is socialism. I would say that tax evasion is a natural consequence and symptom of socialism. It is well-known that higher tax rates mean higher tax evasion, and high tax rates are part of the modern socialist strategy (it's why Obama is expanding the IRS). I was merely using it as an example of Greek disregard for the law. They even bribe their tax collectors there to get out of tax bills. That's expected in 3rd world countries, not in 1st world.

It's just one of the examples of how little they follow the laws there (and in most of the rest of the world). So whatever laws they have doesn't really mean that they don't have guns.

Exactly.

Lulfas
05-06-2010, 5:43 PM
A large part of the problem is everyone in Greece got used to not following the government when they didn't want to. Everything is done under the table. However, they all want cushy government jobs and early retirement. When you have doctors submitting that they make $15.000, and yet drive a Mercedes and live in a 500-600 thousand dollar house, you're approaching absurdity. Like the pool situation. On taxable rolls, there is about 300 pools. On satellite, there is over 16.000

Lost in MA
05-06-2010, 9:47 PM
Handguns can't be outlawed entirely in Greece, the 2011 IPSC Worldshoot is supposed to be there.

bohoki
05-06-2010, 9:53 PM
its a lesson to us all after all it is the cradle of democracy

that is why we are a republic

juicemansam
05-07-2010, 4:17 AM
It is well-known that higher tax rates mean higher tax evasion, and high tax rates are part of the modern socialist strategy (it's why Obama is expanding the IRS).

If the IRS is expanding, would it be safe to assume the ATF would also expand?

CCWFacts
05-07-2010, 7:36 AM
If the IRS is expanding, would it be safe to assume the ATF would also expand?

I believe all Federal law enforcement is expanding under Obama. The FBI had the most massive expansion in its history under Obama.

a1c
05-07-2010, 7:51 AM
Handguns can't be outlawed entirely in Greece, the 2011 IPSC Worldshoot is supposed to be there.

If it's for sporting purposes, it's legal.

Bugei
05-07-2010, 8:07 AM
At several points in our history and at several locations in our country, "Shoot the Revenooer" could have been considered our national sport. Of course, we're much more civilized now.