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n2k
05-04-2010, 7:07 PM
Has anyone seen this:

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt297/n2kphotos/d68dc4b5.jpg

www.1911R1.com

Black Majik
05-04-2010, 7:12 PM
Yup. Been making the rounds amongst the 1911 forums. Nice to see another 1911 into the mix, but it reminds me of the USFA 1911, bastardized.

coltguy
05-04-2010, 7:13 PM
too bad I doubt it'll make the California list anytime soon...

socalshooting
05-04-2010, 7:13 PM
Pretty nice but it's a pretty tough market for another 1911. Price?

n2k
05-04-2010, 7:16 PM
MSRP=$699

I've seen it advertised at $619

-HITMAN-
05-04-2010, 7:17 PM
the site says it's $699.00

Notblake
05-04-2010, 7:18 PM
Considering the lack of features / track record this better be priced below the springer 1911 GI

b.faust
05-04-2010, 7:18 PM
Pretty nice but it's a pretty tough market for another 1911. Price?

The scuttlebutt around the ol' internet cooler, is $699 msrp.
(not confirmed by Remington)

Ducman
05-04-2010, 7:18 PM
looks nice, not much of a fan of that "R" 1.

GŁnter
05-04-2010, 7:50 PM
I wonder where they are made...
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv314/1911canebrake/scan0001.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv314/1911canebrake/scan0002.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv314/1911canebrake/scan0003.jpg

matrix056
05-05-2010, 4:07 AM
Just got the email 10 minutes ago.

http://www.1911r1.com

comments...

Jeffu
05-05-2010, 4:19 AM
looks good

CapnHawk
05-05-2010, 4:45 AM
The price seems decent. Is it going to be on the roster?

liketoshoot
05-05-2010, 7:19 AM
The price seems decent. Is it going to be on the roster?

:rofl2::whistling::1eye: would be nice but.................:wacko:

Never Convicted
05-05-2010, 8:16 AM
any real world reviews yet ?

teflondog
05-05-2010, 8:24 AM
I like the GI look but I could live without the rollmarks. I wonder if it's a series 70 or series 80.

teflondog
05-05-2010, 8:40 AM
I'm not a big fan of the rollmarks, but it seems like a decent 1911 if it were priced lower. You can get a Springfield GI or RIA for a lot less than $699.

Oldnoob
05-05-2010, 9:18 AM
Amount all the GI in the market, I kind of has some hope on Remington. The "R1" was a bit of eyesore but it does come with more of a modern standard sight.

bombadillo
05-05-2010, 9:19 AM
Got that email this morning. I would rather have a base kimber for the price. Who knows, maybe they'll find their niche.

gdun
05-05-2010, 9:20 AM
I like the GI look but I could live without the rollmarks. I wonder if it's a series 70 or series 80.

Remington's website says series 80

gdun
05-05-2010, 9:22 AM
I wonder where they are made...


American!
"These guns are built in our manufacturing facility in Ilion, NY."

Bug Splat
05-05-2010, 9:37 AM
I'm not a big fan of the rollmarks, but it seems like a decent 1911 if it were priced lower. You can get a Springfield GI or RIA for a lot less than $699.

I agree. Its priced way too high. Its no different then a SA GI model and you can get that guy for $100 less.

djleisure
05-05-2010, 9:38 AM
Not a fan of the beavertail/grip safety on it - it's oddly angular and the edges look sharp... Guess ya never know until you hold it though...

CHS
05-05-2010, 9:41 AM
American made. I love it.

Will be calling my distributors today :)


I agree. Its priced way too high. Its no different then a SA GI model and you can get that guy for $100 less.

Except SA = Made in Brazil, Remington = Made in the USA :)

cineski
05-05-2010, 9:52 AM
Agree, it would have been really pretty had they left the slide alone and not made it into a billboard. Nice price. Probably all MIM?

evidens83
05-05-2010, 9:55 AM
I like it!

IrishPirate
05-05-2010, 9:56 AM
looks clean

DArBad
05-05-2010, 10:04 AM
It is featured in Shooting Times Magazine, June 2010 issue and the article who wrote it is written by Bart Skelton.

I hope that it gets certified for California, and that Remington do a good job of making it. I'am just about fed up with many of the 1911s having so many QC issues---- uneven spring tunnel, uneven height of the dust cover, slide rubbing issues, hammer leaning to one side, etc, etc.----cosmetic & functional issues are quite prevalent nowadays inspite of the fact that some of the current crop of manufacturers are using CAD/CAM-CNC machineries, not to mention the fact that prices have skyrocketed.

Ooooppppps, sorry guys----- I did'nt mean to sound that someone just pissed on my cheerios!!!!

More power to Remington for the R1, that is what I really mean----LOL

-hanko
05-05-2010, 10:28 AM
:oops:

posted yesterday pm here...http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=297800

-hanko

gn3hz3ku1*
05-05-2010, 10:31 AM
i'd buy it if i had an yamaha r1 ohhh wait.. it will never make the lsit

dragonbait1a
05-05-2010, 10:31 AM
I like it as a basic 1911 from a reputable maker (Probably a rebadged S&W 1911?) except for one thing. Ambi safeties. It needs (at least as a factory option) Ambidextrous low profile (like it has now) safety levers.

As a lefty I dislike when a major control is right Hand Only. 1911 safeties, Sig decockers Revolver cylinder latches to name a few. I can work with slide and mag releases in the Right hand paradigm. It irritates me when a major company doesn't offer a minor feature upgrade to accommodate the 1/6th of us who use our left hand.

One of the reasons I like Glocks, inherently ambidextrous. The only time I felt being left handed was in the way was locking open the slide. Not a big deal.

Oh, and a rail option would be nice too ;) But not required.

RGB

civilsnake
05-05-2010, 11:35 AM
Except SA = Made in Brazil, Remington = Made in the USA :)

Until I see a quote from Remington stating that the frames are cast (I'm assuming cast because they don't mention forging anywhere) in the United States, I'm not going to claim these are "American" just yet.

Remember, SA can do 51% of the work on a pistol domestically and put the NM prefix on it.

Mute
05-05-2010, 11:48 AM
Looks good. I hope they chose to use the Colt style firing pin safety instead of the Schwartz style used by Kimber.

Gryff
05-05-2010, 12:16 PM
I think the rollmarks don't look too bad at all. Interesting foray into the modern handgun world for Remington (albeit quite a safe choice).

I find the Platinum Service Plan interesting. I wonder who has to perform the "free cleaning/inspection" that they state.

M1A Rifleman
05-05-2010, 12:21 PM
Disapointing they don't offer an A1 version with the rounded MSH. Too many 1911 only versions.

JTROKS
05-05-2010, 1:31 PM
I wonder if the tolerances or the machining is close and perfect. It's about the same price of a no frills Colt, but then again we're all wondering about forged receivers.

robert101
05-05-2010, 3:48 PM
I like the idea of Remington producing a 1911 .45 in the $700 range. What I don't like is the series 80 format. Now they are going to have to compete with Springfiled Armory in the warranty category. I bought both a SA and Dan Wesson 1911 because of the quality and extent they warrant their guns. Can't beat them there.

I know nothing about the Remington customer service.

Knauga
05-05-2010, 4:12 PM
I'm not a big fan of the rollmarks, but it seems like a decent 1911 if it were priced lower. You can get a Springfield GI or RIA for a lot less than $699.

This is more like Springfield's "Milspec" rather than the GI. It has taller sights and a lowered ejection port. Milspec's if you can find them are in the 600-700 range. The price point is about where it should be in my opinion.

This will never be on the CA Party Approved List as it doesn't have a magazine disconnect :rolleyes:

civilsnake
05-05-2010, 4:16 PM
I like the idea of Remington producing a 1911 .45 in the $700 range. What I don't like is the series 80 format. Now they are going to have to compete with Springfiled Armory in the warranty category. I bought both a SA and Dan Wesson 1911 because of the quality and extent they warrant their guns. Can't beat them there.

I know nothing about the Remington customer service.

They claim the 1991R1 comes with a free "Platinum Service" warranty. That supposedly means a 7-day turnaround time and free shipping on all repairs, along with 1 free clean/lube/inspection in the first year. Of course the warranty is still only for 2 years, but let's be realistic; if your gun is defective, you'll figure that out in the first month. I don't know why anyone needs a lifetime warranty on a weapon.

BillCA
05-16-2010, 4:30 AM
First of all, I'm glad to see Remington back in the handgun market. The 1911 is a safe choice, however I think they could make an updated Model 51 or other pocket pistols and become a major player in handguns.

http://rock-island-auction.ammoland.com/images/june09/412.1.jpg
Remington Model 51 - produced in .32 ACP and .380 ACP

The 1911R1 is apparently designed by E-RPC and Remington has the rights to manufacture & distribute it under their name. I think the R1 has a clean, uncluttered appearance, conventional design and appeals to the KISS principle. The Remington rollmark looks fine to me. Again, it's clean and uncluttered with simply the manufacturer's name. I'm not as wild about the 1911R1 marking however.

There are probably enough Remington fans that will purchase the 1911 along with folks who like to have "one of each" 1911 they can afford.

Ca_Rick
05-17-2010, 9:08 PM
I just hope that some how it'll be Ca legal. :cool:

Ultimate
05-17-2010, 10:42 PM
I agree. Its priced way too high. Its no different then a SA GI model and you can get that guy for $100 less.

This has the flared and lowered ejection port,3 Dot sights dovetailed, Flat main spring housing, Light crisp trigger pull, stainless bushing, beveled mag well.

This is definitely ABOVE the very basic Springer GI model and thus priced accordingly.

JanG
05-17-2010, 11:41 PM
it seems comparatively equipped and priced like the springfield mil spec

marcus_bervus
05-17-2010, 11:55 PM
look awesome!

ChrisTKHarris
05-18-2010, 12:19 AM
Do want.

1SOCALGUNNER
05-20-2010, 5:26 PM
its very nice. but I don't like the "R1" on there....i wish my dad would give me his remington rand 1911 that he hasn't shot in over 20 years :/....

BillCA
05-21-2010, 1:26 AM
its very nice. but I don't like the "R1" on there....i wish my dad would give me his remington rand 1911 that he hasn't shot in over 20 years :/....

Not to be smarmy, but Remington-Rand was a typewriter company, not the Remington Arms company, at the time of WW-II. Remington Arms produced rifles and other long guns during the war, but not the 1911.

1SOCALGUNNER
05-21-2010, 3:33 PM
Not to be smarmy, but Remington-Rand was a typewriter company, not the Remington Arms company, at the time of WW-II. Remington Arms produced rifles and other long guns during the war, but not the 1911.

remington-rand also built sewing machines and other stuff and didn't have any firearm experience at those times....

I know not the same remington as today......

but I think at one point remington arms did build a 1911a1 pistol... though....

hybridatsun350
05-21-2010, 3:36 PM
remington-rand also built sewing machines and other stuff and didn't have any firearm experience at those times....

I know not the same remington as today......

but I think at one point remington arms did build a 1911a1 pistol... though....

Remington Arms produced the 1911 for a short time in the late 19-teens.

1SOCALGUNNER
05-21-2010, 7:15 PM
Remington Arms produced the 1911 for a short time in the late 19-teens.

In 1918 I believe they built over 20,000 pistols marked remington umc and the colt patent to the left....i think

glockaxis
05-24-2010, 7:39 PM
I've been wanting an all American made no frills 1911 in this price range and now that it is here, it won't be coming to California. What a sad state of affairs.

jonnyt16
05-24-2010, 9:14 PM
its very nice. but I don't like the "R1" on there....
Either do I. Whenever I hear or see "R1" I always think of this:

http://www.tradenote.net/images/users/000/234/064/products_images/2004_Yamaha___YZF_R1.jpg

And its probably cuz I used to own one, so its weird to hear a gun called an R1

spencerhut
05-24-2010, 9:55 PM
First of all, I'm glad to see Remington back in the handgun market. The 1911 is a safe choice, however I think they could make an updated Model 51 or other pocket pistols and become a major player in handguns.

http://rock-island-auction.ammoland.com/images/june09/412.1.jpg
Remington Model 51 - produced in .32 ACP and .380 ACP

They should remake the Model 51, I have an original, but would love a new one. I think they should do the Model 53, now that would really be something!http://lh5.ggpht.com/_OvR54UvVuCc/S_tX3ClR25I/AAAAAAAAAOg/oq2JIsnNKvo/s800/remington%20model%2053.jpg

elsolo
05-25-2010, 12:31 AM
The R1 doesn't look as bad as the Kimber slide markings.

BillCA
05-25-2010, 11:27 AM
They should remake the Model 51, I have an original, but would love a new one. I think they should do the Model 53, now that would really be something!

Interesting! That reminds me of a Browning 1922 on steroids. :p
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/stock/Browning380_1922_002.jpg

Sinixstar
05-25-2010, 11:49 AM
I'm reserving judgment until I can actually see/hold one.

I'm not so much concerned about features. I think comparisons to the Springfield GI are kind of silly. The GI is an extremely rough (in my opinion) gun.
Compare that to a basic, featureless, run-of-the-mill colt. Can you still say the GI is a better value? Of course not. The Colt has a much higher level of craftsmanship, and is a much more 'polished' gun.

$699 is a fair price for a well-made american built 1911, even if it doesn't have a laundry list of features. Even better considering that's full MSRP, and a savvy buyer should be able to find one at a lower price. (Although that may be more difficult in CA)

scobun
05-25-2010, 5:51 PM
I'm saddened by the Series 80 safety. Too bad.

picasso
06-05-2010, 3:22 PM
This has the flared and lowered ejection port,3 Dot sights dovetailed, Flat main spring housing, Light crisp trigger pull, stainless bushing, beveled mag well.

This is definitely ABOVE the very basic Springer GI model and thus priced accordingly.

Maybe comparable to a SA Mil Spec?
I wonder when DOJ can have this on their roster...

1SOCALGUNNER
06-05-2010, 3:55 PM
Either do I. Whenever I hear or see "R1" I always think of this:

http://www.tradenote.net/images/users/000/234/064/products_images/2004_Yamaha___YZF_R1.jpg

And its probably cuz I used to own one, so its weird to hear a gun called an R1



LOL!..........Yeah the R1 is a wheelie machine, wish I had the guts to ride on these crazy streets...with soccer moms doing make up, drinking starbucks and talking on her blue tooth, all while making a right lane change on the freeway in a fully tinted GMC Tahoe.....

I would like to see the Remington marked in a smaller font. I would really like for it to be marked on the lower only, with a clean non marked slide. Or even simply 1911a1 or something....Not like it matters because we will probably never be able to buy it here.........

Don Edmondson
06-05-2010, 5:40 PM
Yup. Been making the rounds amongst the 1911 forums. Nice to see another 1911 into the mix, but it reminds me of the USFA 1911, bastardized.

I own one fit and finish near perfect good sights damn good shooter plus AMERICAN MADE. Don Albion Idaho soon to be back in NO. CALIFORNIA

smittty
06-05-2010, 8:14 PM
It looks clean in the pictures and I don't mind the roll marks but the "Remington" looks too deep and wide to be a roll mark to me.

I like to see 1911's with clean lines and perfer fewer markings or rollmarks. Also the serrations are vertical just like they should be.

It looks good to me and it's made in USA which is nice to see for a change. I hope it makes it on the roster.

Smitty

hattles
06-05-2010, 11:04 PM
too bad I doubt it'll make the California list anytime soon...

I contacted Remington and it will not even be offered to the DOJ for testing or sale. DARN!:43:

Don Edmondson
06-06-2010, 6:03 AM
I contacted Remington and it will not even be offered to the DOJ for testing or sale. DARN!:43:

Maybe all manufacturers should drop doj. let them worry about there jobs Dealers will cry plus loss of tax money will override the Damn do gooders noisy. the voters Will Wake up When 911 comes to sf and no guns in town. don't get pissed just my old way of thinking Here in Idaho we don't have a lot of crime To many gun owners thanks Don

Ca_Rick
06-06-2010, 1:39 PM
I contacted Remington and it will not even be offered to the DOJ for testing or sale. DARN!:43:

That's sad to hear, I was looking forward to getting my hands on one. :(

picasso
06-06-2010, 4:18 PM
I contacted Remington and it will not even be offered to the DOJ for testing or sale. DARN!:43:

I guess Remington doesn't care about us Californians. How many millions of potential buyers here in Cali?

Ed_in_Sac
06-06-2010, 4:28 PM
Dream a little Dream of a free land where a person can purchase such a fine offering. Certainly won't be Cali.....

Garand1911
06-07-2010, 8:17 AM
I guess Remington doesn't care about us Californians. How many millions of potential buyers here in Cali?


ON THE CONTRARY --- i talked to a remington rep this past weekend, the gun is NOT coming to the occupied territories, because the gun DOES NOT HAVE A MAGAZINE SAFETY.


millions of buyers = millions of $$$, you think remington would want to turn away from all that green?

it might not even have the loaded chamber indicator or internal locking mechanism.
blame your elected commies and not remington

scobun
06-07-2010, 10:40 AM
I still can't get past the Series 80 style safety. Why?

Crazed_SS
06-07-2010, 1:38 PM
I guess Remington doesn't care about us Californians. How many millions of potential buyers here in Cali?

Umm.. why does everyone keep talking about this being added to the roster?

New guns need LCI, Magazine disco, etc.. There's no way an old-school 1911 will have those features.

Ed_in_Sac
06-07-2010, 4:19 PM
Because its a "new model" from Remington.

CHS
06-07-2010, 5:28 PM
I still can't get past the Series 80 style safety. Why?

Where do people keep getting this "Series 80" information anyways?

trashman
06-10-2010, 11:37 AM
Where do people keep getting this "Series 80" information anyways?

From the owner's manual - they don't reference "Series 80" but they do discuss the firing pin block:

http://1911r1.com/Products/Firearms/Model-1911r1.aspx

...I'm bummed this won't be on the list, but I'll probably pick up one of the Auto Ordnance pistols at some point. Saw one at Alquist Arms and it is a "buy" - great fit and finish.

--Neill

buffybuster
06-10-2010, 2:53 PM
I'm saddened by the Series 80 safety. Too bad.

If it's a Series-80, then it is easy and straight forward to eliminate. There is a spacer available to fill the slot and it's gone.

toneman
10-16-2010, 8:54 PM
Now gun is on our roster list,
Anyone bought one yet ?


Editing 10/17/10
Sorry I didn't check the actual list,
I just went with what my local gun store told me,
turns out to be a consignment gun for PPT.
Once again sorry that I posted without conformation.

The gun is not on our list.

RollingCode3
10-16-2010, 9:11 PM
Now gun is on our roster list,
Anyone bought one yet ?


Wow You bump a four-month old thread and gave false information. :rolleyes: How on earth did the Remingtong 1911 R1 make it on the roster list?

trashman
10-16-2010, 9:37 PM
Now gun is on our roster list,


I just double-checked and it's not on the Roster.

--Neill

Cyc Wid It
10-17-2010, 1:22 AM
It's cast and ugly. Nothing to see here.

redcliff
10-17-2010, 5:11 AM
It's cast and ugly. Nothing to see here.

Many modern pistols use cast frames without problem though. Dan Wesson used cast frames on some of their 1911's including the CBOB until 2010 and those pistols are still well-regarded.

toneman
10-17-2010, 12:19 PM
Wow You bump a four-month old thread and gave false information. :rolleyes: How on earth did the Remingtong 1911 R1 make it on the roster list?

I just double-checked and it's not on the Roster.

--Neill

Sorry I didn't check the actual list,
I just went with what my local gun store told me,
turns out to be a consignment gun for PPT.
Once again sorry that I posted without conformation

ZX-10R
10-17-2010, 12:23 PM
yeah allegedly we are not seeing this gun here...Shame I am a Remington fan and as much as I hate buying guns with expensive rounds I would be all over this.

Cyc Wid It
10-17-2010, 2:17 PM
Many modern pistols use cast frames without problem though. Dan Wesson used cast frames on some of their 1911's including the CBOB until 2010 and those pistols are still well-regarded.

Now they switched to forged... and I guarantee they paid at least a little more attention to their casting process. Why would you pay $800 for something on par with a Norinco?

trashman
10-17-2010, 3:17 PM
Sorry I didn't check the actual list,
I just went with what my local gun store told me,
turns out to be a consignment gun for PPT.
Once again sorry that I posted without conformation

Ah, that explains it.

--Neill