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Roadrunner
04-29-2010, 11:21 PM
My brother bought a .44 cal. Desert Eagle last week. Now he's considering getting the .357 and .50 cal barrels for it. If he configures it for .50 cal., will that make the firearm illegal? Those who are in the know, let me know so I can pass the info to him.

69Mach1
04-29-2010, 11:35 PM
The .50 isn't illegal. It's just not on the roster to get to the DROSing part (unless it's PPT). Mods after you get it home are fine. So convert away.

mike452
04-29-2010, 11:36 PM
No.. The .50AE is not on the CA approved list, but are legal here. Get the .44Mag then just buy the .50AE barrel with a magazine.

eccvets
04-30-2010, 12:03 AM
.50ae is not the same as a .50bmg

localguy
04-30-2010, 12:09 AM
.50ae is not the same as a .50bmg

+1 for this. Tell him to get the .50 AE barrel, install it, and show pictures of it. :)

mswanson223
04-30-2010, 12:13 AM
you would have to buy the 50ae upper and mag and switch it out the 44mag.
My uncle finally got his after waiting 3+ months.

Notblake
04-30-2010, 12:38 AM
Taken directly from the calguns.net California Handgun Flow chart:

10. Does the firearm have a bore over .50" that is not a smoothbore barrel designed for a fixed shotgun shell? If so, Violates 26 USC 5861 if not properly possessed per 27 CFR Part 479

So you guys tell me Does the .50 AE have a bore over .50"??? Before you all rush and say, it's .50" so it isn't OVER .50" how sure are you? are you sure it isn't .5000001" if so it appears to be illegal.

Plisk
04-30-2010, 12:46 AM
Taken directly from the calguns.net California Handgun Flow chart:

10. Does the firearm have a bore over .50" that is not a smoothbore barrel designed for a fixed shotgun shell? If so, Violates 26 USC 5861 if not properly possessed per 27 CFR Part 479

So you guys tell me Does the .50 AE have a bore over .50"??? Before you all rush and say, it's .50" so it isn't OVER .50" how sure are you? are you sure it isn't .5000001" if so it appears to be illegal.

It's not over .50" calm down. It's legal.

leelaw
04-30-2010, 12:49 AM
.50AE is legal in California, since it does not meet the dimensional requirements of the CA .50 BMG ban, nor federal issues regarding destructive devices.

The issues with a.50AE Desert Eagle comes with the roster - the only approved model is the .44 Magnum model, but that only covers the firearm at the time of purchase. After purchase, you can freely convert it to any lawful cartridge (including .50 AE).

supersteve9219
04-30-2010, 12:50 AM
Taken directly from the calguns.net California Handgun Flow chart:

10. Does the firearm have a bore over .50" that is not a smoothbore barrel designed for a fixed shotgun shell? If so, Violates 26 USC 5861 if not properly possessed per 27 CFR Part 479

So you guys tell me Does the .50 AE have a bore over .50"??? Before you all rush and say, it's .50" so it isn't OVER .50" how sure are you? are you sure it isn't .5000001" if so it appears to be illegal.

:facepalm:

Notblake
04-30-2010, 12:54 AM
You may be right but expect a hell of a lot of hassle from the first cop that finds your ".50 cal". pistol I also wouldn't imagine the da would let you go without trying every angle to get u.

leelaw
04-30-2010, 12:55 AM
You may be right but expect a hell of a lot of hassle from the first cop that finds your ".50 cal". pistol I also wouldn't imagine the da would let you go without trying every angle to get u.

The ban is specifically for .50 BMG RIFLES. If a LEO can't differentiate between a .50 BMG rifle and a .50 AE pistol, we have much more serious issues at hand...

Notblake
04-30-2010, 12:57 AM
If this is the case then someone needs to edit the calguns flow chart.

Plisk
04-30-2010, 12:59 AM
If this is the case then someone needs to edit the calguns flow chart.

What part? The part that says you need to drop this subject because its legal and you're picking at something that is just stupid?

mswanson223
04-30-2010, 1:01 AM
just imagine a 50bmg pistol

leelaw
04-30-2010, 1:03 AM
just imagine a 50bmg pistol

http://www.reedercustomguns.com/information/stupid/50bmg.jpg

Already been done. A federal destructive device. :43:

Notblake
04-30-2010, 1:04 AM
Number 10 on the ca handgun NOT RIFLE flow chart. I'd really like to help educate both myself and the OP I don't know why ur being so mean plisk. Calling my questions stupid. Doesn't help anything. If you could explain how .50 ae doesn't fit rule 10 I think we would all appreciate it. I know I would.

SixtyDashOne
04-30-2010, 1:05 AM
Tell him if he wants to go .357 he will also need the bolt in addition to the barrel and mag. The .44 and .50 share the same bolt so for those it's just a matter of the barrel and mag.

leelaw
04-30-2010, 1:05 AM
If this is the case then someone needs to edit the calguns flow chart.

The flowchart is correct. The issue at hand with .50 calibre pistols is that the way the diameter is measured with pistols (grooves) is different than with rifles (lands).

.50AE was designed specifically to circumvent this difference of measure, and fully complies with federal regulations.

mswanson223
04-30-2010, 1:07 AM
OMG if only clinton wasnt elected

Notblake
04-30-2010, 1:08 AM
Leelaw thank you for your straight up answer, so what, just out of curiosity does a .50 ae barrel measure? Is it like how .38" barrels are actually .357"?

Plisk
04-30-2010, 1:08 AM
Number 10 on the ca handgun NOT RIFLE flow chart. I'd really like to help educate both myself and the OP I don't know why ur being so mean plisk. Calling my questions stupid. Doesn't help anything. If you could explain how .50 ae doesn't fit rule 10 I think we would all appreciate it. I know I would.

50AE =/= >.50"

It's as simple as that.

mswanson223
04-30-2010, 1:10 AM
Ive seen the 50ae kits for sale at turners

leelaw
04-30-2010, 1:12 AM
Leelaw thank you for your straight up answer, so what, just out of curiosity does a .50 ae barrel measure? Is it like how .38" barrels are actually .357"?

The average projectile diameter is .50", right at the limit for destructive device designation.

Originally it was designed with a .51" diameter (same as .50BMG) but BATFE ruled that as a destructive device due to the different way that they measure pistol vs rifle bores. It was redesigned to .50" after the BATFE initial determination, and has since been approved as a non-DD round.

mswanson223
04-30-2010, 1:12 AM
besides you need gorillia hands to shoot it. let alone the cost of ammo even if your reloading.

leelaw
04-30-2010, 1:14 AM
besides you need gorillia hands to shoot it.

My ex had very petite hands and she could control it. It seems to be a matter of the shooter's ability, and not necessarily hand size.

mswanson223
04-30-2010, 1:18 AM
huh makes sense i was new to shooting when i shot it.

Guns R Tools
04-30-2010, 1:19 AM
Recommend Hogue 1 piece grip for 50 AE conversion, stock grip is not that great.

mswanson223
04-30-2010, 1:22 AM
the dual recoil spring is pretty ingenious though.

tonelar
04-30-2010, 1:50 AM
Really? Cause it's stock grip is way easier on my hand than some of my Hogue fitted SW snubbies.

Desert Eagles are fun because they handle recoil so well. Sure, there's a big boom from them, but that's about it.

rorschach
04-30-2010, 2:13 AM
.50 AE is tolerable. .500S&W on the other hand is just torture.