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Garandman13
04-26-2010, 9:19 PM
For all of you who have and/or are fans of .357 sig i humbly ask... why? Its harder to get and more expensive than 40s&w, whats the upside to it?

p.s. i ain't hatin just inquisitive :confused:

Colt-45
04-26-2010, 9:21 PM
I'm not a .357 sig guy but the Walmarts around here ALWAYS have it.

tankerman
04-26-2010, 9:22 PM
I hate to be a 'use the search button' guy, but holycow there have been a zillion of these 357 sig threads.

battleship
04-26-2010, 9:24 PM
Fire one and see, i have a sig carry Elite in 357, it rocks its like a 9mm on crack.
I prefer it to my 40sw

Rangda
04-26-2010, 10:05 PM
It's really fun to shoot. And it's price isn't much higher than 40s&w, and much easier to find.

Cyc Wid It
04-26-2010, 10:13 PM
"because the secret service uses it"

Vectrexer
04-26-2010, 10:42 PM
Because of the overall satisfying experience. Good for home and fun on the range. Otherwise 40 S&W. And it's the same magazine for my favorite pistol.

9mmepiphany
04-26-2010, 11:03 PM
...and it's more accurate than the .40 too

gunhohulk
04-26-2010, 11:10 PM
Because it's lime having 4 guns instead of 2!(almost). I have a sig 229 and a glock 22. All you need is the 357 sig factory barrel and your good to go. Very fun to shoot. It can be hard to find sometimes but shoot 40 when you can't!

SJgunguy24
04-26-2010, 11:17 PM
Because nothing beats the hell out of your gun like the 357 sig. It's a 9mm in a necked down 40 case. If you really want some fun, 7.62X25 is something to explore.

skale240
04-26-2010, 11:49 PM
Fire one and see, i have a sig carry Elite in 357, it rocks its like a 9mm on crack.
I prefer it to my 40sw

hahah it is like 9mm on crack!!!

It is fun to shoot though. It has a nice little kick to it!

goathead
04-27-2010, 12:58 AM
thats one fast round

JBird33
04-27-2010, 7:03 AM
You .357 Sig guys really need to look into 9x25 Dillon. Same concept only on PCP, crack, and meth instead of just crack.

ChrisTKHarris
04-27-2010, 7:05 AM
I got it more for novelty. My P229 is chambered in .40 and I purchased a conversion barrel just so I COULD shoot .357SIG if I wanted to.

bussda
04-28-2010, 2:40 PM
For all of you who have and/or are fans of .357 sig i humbly ask... why? Its harder to get and more expensive than 40s&w, whats the upside to it?

Many studies on the effectiveness of handgun rounds have been done. The .357 magnum round has something like a 98% one shot stop effectiveness in 125gr. JHP. Meaning if you hit your target with a 125 gr. JHP in .357 magnum, it is likely you will stop your intended target.

Sig Sauer took that, found they could up the ballistics on a 9mm to .357 magnum ballistics, and thus the .357 Sig was born. In addition, you can swap the barrels with a .40S&W, so cheap range time, highly effective in the field.

Shot placement also counts, but if you have an effective round when you hit the target, it is more likely the affair will end sooner rather then later.

Note these same studies also found that a 230 gr. FMJ for .45 ACP has a slightly lower one shot stop percentage then a 60 gr. .32 ACP Winchester Silvertip. A big reason the Seecamp became much desired. And lending more support to shot placement is very important in ending the affair.

Just a little bit of history.

KillZone45
04-28-2010, 2:45 PM
Thanks for the .357 Sig info, kinda always wondered about this round.

Bizcuits
04-28-2010, 4:14 PM
I hate to be a 'use the search button' guy, but holycow there have been a zillion of these 357 sig threads.

The search requires more then 3 characters. So a search for 357 sig reveals absolutely nothing.

E. Fudd
04-28-2010, 4:14 PM
The .357 SIG is no where near the .357 Mag ballistically. More like a 9mm +P++.

It does have a snappier recoil and more muzzle blast than the .40, at least in a P229....

-hanko
04-28-2010, 4:27 PM
Sig Sauer took that, found they could up the ballistics on a 9mm to .357 magnum ballistics, and thus the .357 Sig was born.
Correct, but only for .357 bullets on the light (for .357 mag) side.;)

If it can get 1600 fps or so from 158gr bullet, I'm buyin'!

-hanko

bussda
04-28-2010, 4:31 PM
The .357 SIG is no where near the .357 Mag ballistically. More like a 9mm +P++.

From the notorious Wikipaedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_SIG#Characteristics)

"The goal of the .357 SIG project was to offer a level of performance equal to the highly effective 125 grains (8.1 g) .357 Magnum load. The .357 SIG accomplishes this with a 125 grains (8.1 g) bullet at a muzzle velociy of 1,450 feet per second (440 m/s) out of a 4 in (102 mm) barrel, which is generally identical to the velocity achieved by standard factory 125 grains (8.1 g)r .357 Magnum loads out of a 4 in (102 mm) revolver barrel. "

The misspelling is in the original document.

bussda
04-28-2010, 4:38 PM
Correct, but only for .357 bullets on the light (for .357 mag) side.;)

If it can get 1600 fps or so from 158gr bullet, I'm buyin'!

The goal was to duplicate the 125gr factory load. If you want to go other ways, then you need to go other loads. And maybe go to longer barrels too. Then you get away from the original concept. It delivers what it was designed around, nothing more.

mattt
04-28-2010, 4:53 PM
Dont forget the 357 maximum in a dan wesson or ruger blackhawk revolver now that can push a 125 grn hollow point