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a1c
04-26-2010, 8:18 PM
I'll hopefully get my CCW permit sometime this year. I've been thinking of adding a .380 to the lineup for my 3 allowed guns - something small and light I can easily carry in a pocket.

Those of you who CCW a .380, what's your gun of choice?

Garandman13
04-26-2010, 8:25 PM
i don't have a CCW but from a third person account the cops that come into my work like the LCP's and Kahr 380's and the civie's like the PPk and PPk/s. the Sig 232 isn't a bad choice either its just a little more expensive. the bersa is an ok choice but my shop has seen a few back for servicing. if your budget strapped i usually tell people to try and find a gently used PPk over a Bersa

paul0660
04-26-2010, 8:33 PM
.38 snubbies conceal better, are always reliable, and hit harder.

bsg
04-26-2010, 8:40 PM
have you considered a Glock 26 in 9mm?

-Brady

ZUMNDAD
04-26-2010, 8:42 PM
Here's my Beretta 85F Cheetah .380 after refinishing in OD green and satin black. Trijicons installed. With Hornady TAP rounds on-board, makes a fine CCW.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/zumndad/85_Cheetah/85_CCR_001small.jpg

Of course, a S&W .38 Spcl with CTC grips isn't a bad choice either. Before everyone flames for the finger on the trigger, note that the cylinders are indeed empty.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/zumndad/SW_642/SW_642Lit_small.jpg

DerGlock
04-26-2010, 8:51 PM
.38 snubbies conceal better, are always reliable, and hit harder.

have you considered a Glock 26 in 9mm?

-Brady

Both are larger size than the LCP or Kahr. Op wants a pocket gun . Yeah, I know you can fit those in your pocket too (I pocket carried a glock 36) but a 380 makes it alot easier.

I just got my Kahr
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=294299

CapnHawk
04-26-2010, 9:19 PM
I occasionally carry a Colt Government Mustang Plus II, but only in my vehicle. On my person, I carry a .38 Colt Agent.

too old for this
04-26-2010, 10:36 PM
I have a CCW from the state I used to live in [worthless here] and I carried for my own protection at the advise of local LE there -- my carry was a Bersa 380. While both heavier and less powerful that a J-frame 38 special, I find that shot place is a lot better with it than any of the small 38 special revolvers I have owned or tried. And it is shot placement that counts -- also mine carries 9+1 vs. 5.

RedFord150
04-27-2010, 8:04 AM
...the civie's like the PPk and PPk/s. ...i usually tell people to try and find a gently used PPk over a Bersa


You are the first person to give this advice in more years than I can remember. Everyone I know who bought a PPK/s in the last 25 years thought it was best used as a paperweight.
Every Bersa thread on CalGuns has nothing but good to say about the Bersa. I have not seen one person claim it was not reliable. The main complaints are the finish is not the best and the slide latch will wear out, unless you release the slide using the 'slingshot' method.
I bought my Bersa just over 2 years ago. I do not CCW. I do have several hundred rounds through it without a single failure. I would have no problem trusting my life to it.
Just my opinion...

paul0660
04-27-2010, 8:20 AM
Both are larger size than the LCP or Kahr. Op wants a pocket gun

Actually, a snubnose, because of its shape, conceals in the pocket better than the Kahr, which still looks like a small brick. I have tried both. But to each his own.

Foriegn power
04-27-2010, 8:23 AM
I would say airweight, 5-shot snub nose, it will be easier to find .38's than .380's.

a1c
04-27-2010, 9:03 AM
You are the first person to give this advice in more years than I can remember. Everyone I know who bought a PPK/s in the last 25 years thought it was best used as a paperweight.
Every Bersa thread on CalGuns has nothing but good to say about the Bersa. I have not seen one person claim it was not reliable. The main complaints are the finish is not the best and the slide latch will wear out, unless you release the slide using the 'slingshot' method.
I bought my Bersa just over 2 years ago. I do not CCW. I do have several hundred rounds through it without a single failure. I would have no problem trusting my life to it.
Just my opinion...

I have to say... I'm a little biased as well against PPKs ever since my wife had to deal with a case where the bad guy had his jam on the second round...

rgs1975
04-27-2010, 10:00 AM
Those of you who CCW a .380, what's your gun of choice?

Sig P230 in a Crossbreed MiniTuck

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6876/64077297.jpg

Legasat
04-27-2010, 10:04 AM
IMHO, .380 is better than nothing, but it wouldn't be my first choice.

asley2010
04-28-2010, 9:27 PM
I would say airweight, 5-shot snub nose, it will be easier to find .38's than .380's.

Yeh,i think so,driver

mcholak
04-29-2010, 7:22 AM
I've shot a PPK once and hated it. I haven't shot the Bersa but have been thinking of one for quite some time. The LCP is the ideal gun for what you are looking for but you'll pay twice what it would normally cost to get one here.

As far as the caliber itself I think most agree it is less than ideal but as they say, any caliber is better than no caliber at all. I don't carry my PM9 that often and that thing is pretty light, if you don't carry having the CCW does you no good. There is definitely a lot better ammo out there for the .380 these days.

jonnyt16
04-29-2010, 5:00 PM
SIG P232 no question about it. Shot it, fell in love with it, now in the 10 day waiting period.

And just try and tell me thats not a sexy looking thing...

http://www.ksc-guns.co.jp/p_manager/pic/D059y.jpg

Bizcuits
04-29-2010, 5:19 PM
Why go .380 when you can go .38 or 9mm and have the a gun the same size?

BigDogatPlay
04-29-2010, 6:17 PM
I carried a P230 stoked with Hydra-Shock as my BUG and often as an off duty carry for several years. I never felt like I wasn't properly heeled.

M47_Dragon
04-29-2010, 6:24 PM
Here's my Beretta 85F Cheetah .380 after refinishing in OD green and satin black. Trijicons installed. With Hornady TAP rounds on-board, makes a fine CCW.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/zumndad/85_Cheetah/85_CCR_001small.jpg
]

First off, ZUMNDAD, that is the sweetest Cheetah I've ever seen... though I am a sucker for the Black over OD color scheme. Nice!


As for a .380, I would go Sig 232 (or 230 CPO). Check out TGS (http://www.topgunsupply.com/sig-sauer-p232/) for good prices and reputation.

I also agree with the posters who are suggesting a lightweight Centennial or J-frame. Not only more ammo availability, but size and weight is nice and pocket-able. Also, you can get a hammerless for less snag and the ability to shoot from inside a pocket w/o jamming... etc.

jdg30
04-29-2010, 6:39 PM
My S&W j-frame 442 is my favorite CCW gun. It is light, very accurate and has the perfect contours for carrying in your pocket. Out of the 3 on my permit, this one is never left at home. If I carry another in a holster, this one is still in my pocket. To me, .380's are ok but 5 rounds of .38 +p in an easy to carry, lightweight, totally reliable gun can't be beat. Price for .38 is less than .380 too. S&W airweights usually go for around $450 new which is a good price for a great gun.

Gregchico
04-29-2010, 7:02 PM
My primary carry is still my H&K USPc 40 or 45 but for days when you just can not sport the bigger guns....
This slides in the pocket and you almost forget it is there....
Carrying such a small gun makes it easy, but I have to train harder and focus on shot placement and multiple shots. I not saying there is a one hit wonder, but it sure is not a 380acp...

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/gregchico/LCP1.jpg

advocatusdiaboli
04-29-2010, 7:09 PM
SIG P232 no question about it. Shot it, fell in love with it, now in the 10 day waiting period.

Same here. I have a deposit on one but not out of the 30-hold yet so it will be a while.

I think a lot of the GLock 26 but it is fatter and prints more easily. IN addition I wanted something my wife or daughters can use as well.

MrBrent
04-29-2010, 9:19 PM
I have the Sig 232 and it is a nice little carry gun. I just picked up a PM9 but don't carry it yet until I get some more rounds through it. I suspect the PM9 will become my EDC.
http://gkosin.smugmug.com/Hobbies/Sig-232/postMG0741/774305208_rbYcm-M.jpg

JTROKS
04-29-2010, 10:07 PM
If you do pack a 380 for CCW, please practice the Mozambique drill.