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RRangel
04-25-2010, 8:12 AM
This isn't a new story, but at least there are good guys out there taking the BATF, and Customs and Border Protection to task. The government is apparently trying to weasel their way out of FOIA requests regarding the seizure of airsoft rifles they claim can be made into machine guns.

Their reasoning is laughable, and this proves that common sense does not exist when it comes to certain government agencies. Thousands of dollars worth of merchandise seized and it's perfectly fine if it's slated for destruction.

It was only a month ago that a bizarre story broke in the Pacific Northwest, as Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers trumpeted their seizure of what they claimed were more than two dozen machine guns disguised as toys.

The problem with the CBP claim was that the items seized were 16 WE TTI (WE Tech) M4A1 and 14 WE TTI (WE Tech) M4 CQBR gas blowback Airsoft rifles that shoot plastic BBs.

They really were toys.

But instead of admitting they can’t tell a toy gun from a real one, CBP turned these Airsoft rifles over to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), and the agency agreed that these pot-metal made, plastic BB-shooting plinkers were honest-to-God firearms.

To put it mildly, things got interesting.

Read the rest here (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/agents-of-incompetence-atf-dodges-foia-still-has-seized-bb-guns-part-iv/).

CnCFunFactory
04-25-2010, 8:17 AM
Our tax dollars at work, very impressive.:rolleyes:

Regulus
04-25-2010, 8:54 AM
This is embarrassing.

Embarrassing for the CBP and ATF for being ridiculously ignorant.

Embarrassing for everyone else because we put trust in the CBP and ATF.

N6ATF
04-25-2010, 8:59 AM
This is embarrassing.

Embarrassing for the CBP and ATF for being ridiculously ignorant.

Embarrassing for everyone else because we put trust in the CBP and ATF.

The only trust I put in any unit of government is to harm law-abiding citizens unconstitutionally more than constitutionally harming criminals.

Aleksandr Mravinsky
04-25-2010, 12:36 PM
Is there any legal action that can be taken against an agency that responds to a FOIA by giving completely irrelevant information?