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slambo
04-21-2010, 6:14 PM
I was sent this email today, could anyone please let me know it this is really happening. I am not a LEO nor some dude trying to get everyone upset here. I am just a member that comes here infrequently and wants to share this information and get some answers to my querry.

Thank you for your time and input.

Slam

Here is the email;
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as
long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every
nation a veto.

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State
Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's
administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national
controls were better.

On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms
in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control
and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of
international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international
treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State
Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress.

Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens
will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the
United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and
confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun
control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US
citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the
public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in
the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in
secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to
international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is
telling the truth?

What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the
media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the
United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition
manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning
and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of
firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find
that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any
firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center
or face imprisonment.

This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care
will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means
necessary, so will gun control.
Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the
direction in which our country is headed.
We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).

Bill Carson
04-21-2010, 6:16 PM
FUD

SanPedroShooter
04-21-2010, 6:19 PM
dosen't someone have a picture of a guy doing a facepalm and saying, "not this **** again"...
The president cant just "sign" an international treaty that bans or controls small arms. The article seems to be grossly oversimplified.
The first paragraph is cited to reuters, but what about the rest? I wonder if this comes stuff comes from armament manufactures?

microwaveguy
04-21-2010, 6:20 PM
NEVER will happen ........ needs to be ratified by congress and that just isn't going to happen.

slambo
04-21-2010, 6:22 PM
That is what I thought. Thank you for the answer.

loather
04-21-2010, 6:23 PM
again?
http://www.facepalm.org/img.php
(image changes each time the page is loaded)

Havoc70
04-21-2010, 6:25 PM
http://archon.silvertree.org/not-this-again.jpg

SanPedroShooter
04-21-2010, 6:26 PM
there it is!

$P-Ritch$
04-21-2010, 6:29 PM
+1 to loather that's awesome, I just tried it a few times.

lumwilliam
04-21-2010, 6:31 PM
Here's the link to Reuters - The story is from back in Oct 09'

http://http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

Pig Rifle
04-21-2010, 6:38 PM
The "Will" is there, for sure. But the "Way" is another story. Not gonna happen, IMO. There's a good book on this subject by Wayne LaPierre of the NRA, entitled: The Global War On Your Guns.

PolishMike
04-21-2010, 6:39 PM
Obama has neither the inclination nor the ability.

DVSmith
04-21-2010, 6:39 PM
Here's the link to Reuters - The story is from back in Oct 09'

http://http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

Your link is messed up. Try this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

yelohamr
04-21-2010, 6:41 PM
That's the same crap the NRA talks about when they call and beg for more money. If I give money they send me some CCFC (Cheap Crap From China)

Cokebottle
04-21-2010, 6:52 PM
That's the same crap the NRA talks about when they call and beg for more money. If I give money they send me some CCFC (Cheap Crap From China)
That is the main thing out of several that REALLY pisses me off about the NRA and make me regret joining (as well as giving my wife a membership).

Why are we members? ONLY because it adds credibility when the NRA walks into a politician's office and can say "I'm from the NRA and I represent the interests of 30 million members"

But PLEASE... STOP WITH THE EFFING BEGGING!
I got an envelope last week with an award notification.
I am proud to announce that at a recent meeting of the Honors Committee of the National Rifle Association, your name was placed in nomination to become a member of the NRA Golden Eagles and to receive one of the most distinguished awards ever bestowed by the NRA -- the NRA National Patriot's Medal.
Okay... my first thought was "What? How did MY name get nominated for anything? I've paid my dues every 2 or 3 years and nothing more!"

So as I read on... yes, it's more begging....TWO FREAKING HUNDRED FREAKING DOLLARS A FREAKING YEAR!!!!!!!!!

Come on guys... I get between 5 and 20 mailings from the NRA every month. Insurance offers, NRA-ILA donation requests, "false" opinion surveys that ask my opinion on OBVIOUS issues that no NRA member would disagree with... and a donation request.

Ya know what.... I might be SLIGHTLY more inclined to either donate more, or at least simply ignore these mailings and not get pissed about them if the NRA's legal team didn't have such a history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

POLICESTATE
04-21-2010, 6:54 PM
What's with the ultra-low post count n00bs posting FUD like this? And they don't even include a link to the article. Can we get a lock on this thread?

http://strang.newtomorrow.org/CGN/IBTL.jpg

otteray
04-21-2010, 7:18 PM
http://www.garageracing.com/schel/a/funny/face%20palm.jpg

Fot
04-21-2010, 7:23 PM
When will people get that % 95 or so of chain e-mails are fake?..

missiondude
04-21-2010, 7:26 PM
That is the main thing out of several that REALLY pisses me off about the NRA and make me regret joining (as well as giving my wife a membership).

Why are we members? ONLY because it adds credibility when the NRA walks into a politician's office and can say "I'm from the NRA and I represent the interests of 30 million members"

But PLEASE... STOP WITH THE EFFING BEGGING!
I got an envelope last week with an award notification.

Okay... my first thought was "What? How did MY name get nominated for anything? I've paid my dues every 2 or 3 years and nothing more!"

So as I read on... yes, it's more begging....TWO FREAKING HUNDRED FREAKING DOLLARS A FREAKING YEAR!!!!!!!!!

Come on guys... I get between 5 and 20 mailings from the NRA every month. Insurance offers, NRA-ILA donation requests, "false" opinion surveys that ask my opinion on OBVIOUS issues that no NRA member would disagree with... and a donation request.

Ya know what.... I might be SLIGHTLY more inclined to either donate more, or at least simply ignore these mailings and not get pissed about them if the NRA's legal team didn't have such a history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Call the NRA and have the mailings stopped. It takes less than a minute, saves them from wasting money sending them to you, and you can chose to donate or not at your leasure.

G17GUY
04-21-2010, 7:28 PM
Obama has neither the inclination nor the ability.

+1, his health care bill will never pass also.

:ninja:

GDM
04-21-2010, 7:55 PM
BHO may have signed the nuke treaty as well, but it too has to be ratified with the congress. Possible that, that treaty may get signed (the one about nukes) but, with the way people are viewing govt at the moment and with how hostile the minority party is to the President. I would say we have a better chance seeing a news cast saying aliens have landed then see that UN treaty with a really long as name get signed.

RomanDad
04-21-2010, 8:05 PM
If its Wednesday, it must be the treaty thread?

barthel
04-21-2010, 8:17 PM
How about this one!
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w266/barthelj/32777-tactical_facepalm_super.jpg
:43:

slambo
04-21-2010, 8:34 PM
Thank you all for your input on this subject, I had a feeling that it could not be done. I am out of the loop with what is happening with our 2nd ammendment, my wife has breast cancer and I am somewhat preoccupied elsewhere, plus I am a stay at home dad. Thanks again for taking the time to educate me on this.

Slam

Federalist
04-21-2010, 8:56 PM
Slam: Sorry to hear the news about your wife. We will keep her in our thoughts and prayers. Sounds like you are being a great husband taking care of the family.

freonr22
04-21-2010, 10:00 PM
Not even worth a comment. Please delete my post

gravedigger
04-21-2010, 10:17 PM
When will people get that % 95 or so of chain e-mails are fake?..

A strange, little understood new language has been created by the Internet community. It is called "Emailspeak" This language uses ordinary English words, and the grammatical structure is usually correct, however the meaning of the words used are completely different that the commonly understood meaning of those words.

Example:

Emailspeak: "Send this to everyone you know!"

Translation: "I have no facts. I have no life. I just want to see if this goes viral."

Sinixstar
04-21-2010, 10:40 PM
+1, his health care bill will never pass also.

:ninja:

the difference is, he got elected on Healthcare.

Last president to try and ban guns ushered in what should have been a 20+ year republican power grab. Had the republicans elected someone other then GWB - it probably would have been....
Healthcare is something that can be debated. It's something that people will go back and forth on. It's 'willable'.

Guns - is not. You move on guns - you will lose. Period. Try banning something, and even people who had no interest in it previously are like 'hey, wait a minute, what if i wanted a gun? what if i decided a year from now i want a gun? you can't ban guns!"

Next thing you know, you're out of office next election cycle.

Remember - he's a politician first. Everything else at LEAST second.

thefinger
04-21-2010, 11:03 PM
i didn't even read this thread past page one, but i just have to say that dude, i hate that obama guy. he's trying to ruin this country and thats no joke. this has nothing to do with republicans and democrats. this is about america, and obama wants to change america fundamentally. (insert four letter word here) that!