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NSR500
04-19-2010, 4:24 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone

http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/comp2.jpg

khw9mm
04-19-2010, 4:30 PM
A little too boxy but pretty cool looking!! I'd get it once my AT&T contract is up and I can upgrade. OR if I can find it in a coffee shop. LOL!! :rolleyes: Knowing Apple, they probably did it on purpose!!

NSR500
04-19-2010, 4:40 PM
Well it has a camera on the correct side for making video calls now. Depending on what other features get confirmed I may upgrade.

Bug Splat
04-19-2010, 4:49 PM
:rolleyes: Knowing Apple, they probably did it on purpose!!

I would agree. I very much dislike Apples business models but one thing I will give them is that they have the best market department in the world. They took music files and told the world "we are going to make it more expensive, put it on proprietary hardware, and make it 100X more restrictive" and the whole damn world ate it up! WTF?!?! People slept in lines out in the rain for apples products and that just blows my mind. They have taken their brand and made it a fashion trend because any tech savvy person knows their products don't do anything different than what was already out there. Apple has done nothing new. They have taken others creations and polished it and slapped their name on it then screamed bloody murder when another company does the same. That just pisses me off as a tech. They took Linux and claimed it was their creation. All they did was build a GUI for it. Kids in dorm rooms do that all the time.

Sick Boy
04-19-2010, 4:52 PM
Do Want!!!!

FLS9497
04-19-2010, 4:57 PM
Nice. But I would buy a case right away. Seems like there's no protection for the screen when and if you drop the phone. My contract is up next month. I will definitely upgrade once this is available.

JOEKILLA
04-19-2010, 5:39 PM
Hmm Zune HD? :D

http://www.spurgeonworld.com/willsblog/archives/zune-hd-black.jpg

bombadillo
04-19-2010, 5:56 PM
Yah, another Iphone. :sarcasm:

NSR500
04-19-2010, 6:11 PM
I've had every MSFT phone OS until 2009 and they all suck IMO. At least the iPhone created a working application store model and they nurture their OS. With MSFT I always felt they never nurtured their phone products.
As for Android, I'm like it and would consider an Android powered phone. At least they're growing support and trying to create a competetive model against Apple. When my funds allow, I will get an Android HTC phone for international use.

bigmike82
04-19-2010, 7:22 PM
"At least the iPhone created a working application store model and they nurture their OS."
And that's the difference between MS and Apple. MS gives you the OS, and tells you to go forth and multiply.

Apple gives you the OS and the Hardware platform, and then tells you *precisely* what you may code, and HOW you code it. And if you code something that they don't like, for any reason whatsoever, you don't get to distribute that program. Oh, and they can revoke your program at any time for any reason, based on the whims of the all might Jobs.

I obviously prefer the Windows OS to the Apple one. :)

NSR500
04-19-2010, 7:33 PM
I hear you bigmike82. For desktop and servers I only run Linux, and Windows.
If I want a "Do Everything" phone, I will choose the Linux platform. If I want an everyday "Phone +" I'm looking at an iPhone.

JDay
04-19-2010, 11:45 PM
They took Linux and claimed it was their creation. All they did was build a GUI for it. Kids in dorm rooms do that all the time.

OS X is not Linux, nor is it BSD. It is Mach. And they do contribute to the open source community, the KDE project gets code from Apple for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#History

Mac OS X is based upon the Mach kernel.[11] Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in Nextstep, the core of Mac OS X. Nextstep was the object-oriented operating system developed by Steve Jobs' company NeXT after he left Apple in 1985.[12] While Jobs was away from Apple, Apple tried to create a "next-generation" OS through the Taligent, Copland and Gershwin projects, with little success.[13]

Eventually, NeXT's OS, then called OPENSTEP, was selected to be the basis for Apple's next OS, and Apple purchased NeXT outright.[14] Steve Jobs returned to Apple as interim CEO, and later became CEO, shepherding the transformation of the programmer-friendly OPENSTEP into a system that would be adopted by Apple's primary market of home users and creative professionals. The project was first known as Rhapsody and was later renamed to Mac OS X.[15]

Mac OS X Server 1.x, was incompatible with software designed for the original Mac OS and had no support for Apple's own IEEE 1394 interface (FireWire). Mac OS X 10.x included more backward compatibility and functionality by including the Carbon API as well as FireWire support. As the operating system evolved, it moved away from the legacy Mac OS to an emphasis on new "digital lifestyle" applications such as the iLife suite, enhanced business applications (iWork), and integrated home entertainment (the Front Row media center).[16] Each version also included modifications to the general interface, such as the brushed metal appearance added in version 10.3, the non-pinstriped titlebar appearance in version 10.4, and in 10.5 the removal of the previous brushed metal styles in favor of the "Unified" gradient window style.[17][18]

Look Wat I kAn DO !
04-20-2010, 3:40 AM
I feel bad for the guy who lost the phone. Poor guy.

evidens83
04-20-2010, 11:31 AM
Getting it!

Steyr_223
04-20-2010, 12:05 PM
Good read, I hope the dude does not get fired..

http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone?skyline=true&s=i

The Gourmet Haus Staudt. A nice place to enjoy good German lagers. And if you are an Apple Software Engineer named Gray Powell, it's also a nice place to make the honest mistake of losing the next-generation iPhone.


Gray Powell—a North Carolina State University 2006 graduate and talented amateur photographer—is an Apple Software Engineer working on the iPhone Baseband Software, the little program that enables the iPhone to make calls. A dream job for a talented engineer like Powell, an Apple fan who always wanted to meet Steve Jobs.

On the night of March 18, he was enjoying the fine imported ales at Gourmet Haus Staudt, a nice German beer garden in Redwood City, California. He was happy. [UPDATED] After all, it was his birthday. He was turning 27 that very same day, and he was celebrating. The place was great. The beer was excellent. "I underestimated how good German beer is," he typed into the next-generation iPhone he was testing on the field, cleverly disguised as an iPhone 3GS. It was his last Facebook update from the secret iPhone. It was the last time he ever saw the iPhone, right before he abandoned it on bar stool, leaving to go home.

It a simple, honest mistake in the middle of celebration. Something that anyone, from Steve Jobs to Jonathan Ive, could have done. Knowing how ferocious and ruthless Apple is about product leaks, those beers may have turned out to be the bitterest of his life.
(Almost) Impenetrable Security

Until now, Apple's legendary security has always worked perfectly. Perhaps there was a blurry factory photo here, or some last-minute information strategically whispered to some friendly media there. But when it comes to the big stuff, everything is airtight. At their Cupertino campus, any gadget or computer that is worth protecting is behind armored doors, with security locks with codes that change every few minutes. Prototypes are bolted to desks. Hidden in these labs, hardware, software and industrial-design elves toil separately on the same devices, without really having the complete picture of the final product.

And hidden in every corner, the Apple secret police, a team of people with a single mission: To make sure nobody speaks. And if there's a leak, hunt down the traitor, and escort him out of the building. Using lockdowns and other fear tactics, these men in black are the last line of defense against any sneaky eyes. The Gran Jefe Steve trusts them to avoid Apple's worst nightmare: The leak of a strategic product that could cost them millions of dollars in free marketing promotion. One that would make them lose control of the product news cycle.

But the fact is that there's no perfect security. Not when humans are involved. Humans that can lose things. You know, like the next generation iPhone.
Lost and Found

Apple security's mighty walls fell on the midnight of Thursday, March 18. At that time, Powell was at Gourmet Haus Staudt, just 20 miles from the company's Infinite Loop headquarters, having his fun. Around him, other groups of people were sharing the jolly atmosphere, and plenty of the golden liquid.

The person who eventually ended up with the lost iPhone was sitting next to Powell. He was drinking with a friend too. He noticed Powell on the stool next to him but didn't think twice about him at the time. Not until Powell had already left the bar, and a random really drunk guy—who'd been sitting on the other side of Powell—returned from the bathroom to his own stool.

The Random Really Drunk Guy pointed at the iPhone sitting on the stool, the precious prototype left by the young Apple engineer.

"Hey man, is that your iPhone?" asked Random Really Drunk Guy.

"Hmmm, what?" replied the person who ended up with the iPhone. "No, no, it isn't mine."

"Ooooh, I guess it's your friend's then," referring to a friend who at the time was in the bathroom. "Here, take it," said the Random Really Drunk Guy, handing it to him. "You don't want to lose it." After that, the Random Really Drunk Guy also left the bar.

The person who ended up with the iPhone asked around, but nobody claimed it. He thought about that young guy sitting next to him, so he and his friend stayed there for some time, waiting. Powell never came back.

During that time, he played with it. It seemed like a normal iPhone. "I thought it was just an iPhone 3GS," he told me in a telephone interview. "It just looked like one. I tried the camera, but it crashed three times." The iPhone didn't seem to have any special features, just two bar codes stuck on its back: 8800601pex1 and N90_DVT_GE4X_0493. Next to the volume keys there was another sticker: iPhone SWE-L200221. Apart from that, just six pages of applications. One of them was Facebook. And there, on the Facebook screen, was the Apple engineer, Gray Powell.

Thinking about returning the phone the next day, he left. When he woke up after the hazy night, the phone was dead. Bricked remotely, through MobileMe, the service Apple provides to track and wipe out lost iPhones. It was only then that he realized that there was something strange that iPhone. The exterior didn't feel right and there was a camera on the front. After tinkering with it, he managed to open the fake 3GS.

There it was, a shiny thing, completely different from everything that came before.

He reached for a phone and called a lot of Apple numbers and tried to find someone who was at least willing to transfer his call to the right person, but no luck. No one took him seriously and all he got for his troubles was a ticket number.

He thought that eventually the ticket would move up high enough and that he would receive a call back, but his phone never rang. What should he be expected to do then? Walk into an Apple store and give the shiny, new device to a 20-year-old who might just end up selling it on eBay?
The Aftermath

Weeks later, Gizmodo got it for $5,000 in cash. At the time, we didn't know if it was the real thing or not. It didn't even get past the Apple logo screen. Once we saw it inside and out, however, there was no doubt about it. It was the real thing, so we started to work on documenting it before returning it to Apple. We had the phone, but we didn't know the owner. Later, we learnt about this story, but we didn't know for sure it was Powell's phone until today, when we contacted him via his phone.

Gray Powell: Hello?

John Herrman: Is this Gray?

G: Yeah.

J: Hi, this is John Herrman from Gizmodo.com.

G: Hey!

J: You work at Apple, right?

G: Um, I mean I can't really talk too much right now.

J: I understand. We have a device, and we think that maybe you misplaced it at a bar, and we would like to give it back.

G: Yeah, I forwarded your email [asking him if it was his iPhone], someone should be contacting you.

J: OK.

G: Can I send this phone number along?

J: [Contact information]

He sounded tired and broken. But at least he's alive, and apparently may still be working at Apple—as he should be. After all, it's just a ****ing iPhone and mistakes can happen to everyone—Gray Powell, Phil Schiller, you, me, and Steve Jobs.

The only real mistake would be to fire Gray in the name of Apple's legendary impenetrable security, breached by the power of German beer and one single human error.

IEShooter
04-20-2010, 12:18 PM
Poor guy. The article said he wanted to meet Jobs. I'm sure he got his wish. This is not the way to get your name and face known to the C Suite. :o

RogueSniper
04-20-2010, 1:18 PM
Sucks to be him! :p:rolleyes:
I used to work for Jobs at NeXT Software in Redwood City. I've met the man and Jobs has this penetrating stare that can make you squirm (besides the dude is really tall, that or I'm short).

Mistakes happen, but to lose a prototype of the next generation iPhone? I guess Powell may be punished by being stuck doing QA on apps for the next couple of years. I bet his friends made a shirt for him sayng: "Yeah, I'm the Idiot that lost the Next Gen iPhone!"

D'oh!

JDay
04-20-2010, 1:33 PM
Poor guy. The article said he wanted to meet Jobs. I'm sure he got his wish. This is not the way to get your name and face known to the C Suite. :o

I'd rather meet Steve Wozniak.

Nodda Duma
04-20-2010, 1:37 PM
Another promising career ruined in an instant.

He won't get fired, but he won't get to work on the cool stuff any more. He'd have to personally take a bullet for Mr. Jobs or something to recover from that screw-up. Breaches of security are never a good thing.

-Jason

caoboy
04-20-2010, 1:59 PM
Sucks to be him! :p:rolleyes:
I used to work for Jobs at NeXT Software in Redwood City. I've met the man and Jobs has this penetrating stare that can make you squirm (besides the dude is really tall, that or I'm short).

Mistakes happen, but to lose a prototype of the next generation iPhone? I guess Powell may be punished by being stuck doing QA on apps for the next couple of years. I bet his friends made a shirt for him sayng: "Yeah, I'm the Idiot that lost the Next Gen iPhone!"

D'oh!

That shirt would rock!


I'm still sticking with my POS free phone from VZW with a 5 day battery life.

mif_slim
04-20-2010, 3:02 PM
One thing I dont like about my iPhone....cant play anything dealing with microsoft products such as FLASH! I need it for some of my work when Im away from the office! Makes me want to get a droid but I dont know what its programmed to do.

Sick Boy
04-20-2010, 3:13 PM
Don't worry about Flash.

As soon as everyone adopts HTML5, the iPhone won't be hindered by Flash anymore!!

Hopefully that happen in the next few years. :(

Bug Splat
04-20-2010, 3:59 PM
Don't worry about Flash.

As soon as everyone adopts HTML5, the iPhone won't be hindered by Flash anymore!!

Hopefully that happen in the next few years. :(

Why do you like HTML5 so much? From what I have read its slower than Flash.

JDay
04-20-2010, 4:05 PM
One thing I dont like about my iPhone....cant play anything dealing with microsoft products such as FLASH! I need it for some of my work when Im away from the office! Makes me want to get a droid but I dont know what its programmed to do.

All Android phones have flash support. And what do you mean you don't know what its programmed to do? Its like an iPhone only better since you're not restricted to approved apps and you can tether it to your laptop without hacking the thing.

JDay
04-20-2010, 4:06 PM
Don't worry about Flash.

As soon as everyone adopts HTML5, the iPhone won't be hindered by Flash anymore!!

Hopefully that happen in the next few years. :(

Yeah right, look at how many sites still use activex.

JDay
04-20-2010, 4:07 PM
Why do you like HTML5 so much? From what I have read its slower than Flash.

The nice thing about it is that it runs an any HTML5 compliant browser, no plugin required.

stormy_clothing
04-20-2010, 4:09 PM
It's open source unlike flash really so it will be made better, mostly though flash on a phone is laggy and tends to crash.

The new iphone is very good - according to someone I know who knows someone ect, sorry can't say but it's raising the bar up pretty high for everyone especially droids which are good but need some apple polish.

Expect it to work with flash, from what I understand with the flash bomb about to hit droids in the next month or so apple does'nt want to be out on there own despite recent comments.

As far as HTML 5 it has not been formalized and there talking until 2022 until it becomes a defacto standard.

One thing that's going to be interesting it Android 3, Google has made statements alluding to the fact Android 2.1 isnt the real deal merely a beta test and it the back it up with nexus 1 + hardware from now on it's going to be pretty amazing.

Bug Splat
04-20-2010, 4:24 PM
I run flash on my old Samsung Omnia and its runs fine with much less power than an iphone and i'm running multiple apps including a full OS shell. Everything points to apple make flash run poorly on their hardware because they wont open up hardware acceleration like the rest of the industry.

I personally don't care what is used but it looks more like Jobs is just trying to crap in Adobe's food rather than push a better product. Jobs has to be the most revengeful person I have ever seen. Reminds me of a b**chy teenage girl.

Vectrexer
04-20-2010, 4:33 PM
I would agree. I very much dislike Apples business models but one thing I will give them is that they have the best market department in the world. They took music files and told the world "we are going to make it more expensive, put it on proprietary hardware, and make it 100X more restrictive" and the whole damn world ate it up! WTF?!?! People slept in lines out in the rain for apples products and that just blows my mind. They have taken their brand and made it a fashion trend because any tech savvy person knows their products don't do anything different than what was already out there. Apple has done nothing new. They have taken others creations and polished it and slapped their name on it then screamed bloody murder when another company does the same. That just pisses me off as a tech. They took Linux and claimed it was their creation. All they did was build a GUI for it. Kids in dorm rooms do that all the time.

The Mac runs on BSD, not Linux. In today's world it really is closer to BSD than MACH. Many people can suck down a free OS. it take balls and guile to make apply the polish and call it your own.

Vectrexer
04-20-2010, 4:35 PM
I'd rather meet Steve Wozniak.

Steve Wozniak is great in person. Every bit the real guy you see on the tube.

Vectrexer
04-20-2010, 4:44 PM
What do you want to bet the Gray's name will be transitioned into the next internal Apple warning stating "Don't pull a Powell!" ?

JDay
04-21-2010, 1:16 AM
I personally don't care what is used but it looks more like Jobs is just trying to crap in Adobe's food rather than push a better product. Jobs has to be the most revengeful person I have ever seen. Reminds me of a b**chy teenage girl.

Why do you think Steve Wozniak (the true founder of Apple Computer) left the company? He got tired of Steve Jobs ****.

stormy_clothing
04-21-2010, 11:08 AM
yeah like you wouldn't trade several billion dollars and world wide respect for a couple of haters

Jobs truly has f you money and he deserves respect for at least that and he does raise the bar. Snow Leopard lays the smack down on Windows 7

SOCMOB
04-23-2010, 2:10 PM
I'd rather meet Steve Wozniak.

That's not hard to do. Just go to the McD's he likes to eat breakfast at, or find some Segway Polo going on and you'll find him. He's real big on Segway Polo.

Look Wat I kAn DO !
04-26-2010, 8:57 PM
Crazy http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/iphone-raid/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Ind ex+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

evidens83
04-26-2010, 9:19 PM
Wow things are getting interesting..

phish
04-27-2010, 8:30 PM
What do you want to bet the Gray's name will be transitioned into the next internal Apple warning stating "Don't pull a Powell!" ?

Considering the raid on the Gizmodo employee's home, sounds like srz bsns now. I can picture an interviewer asking this question: "So, why did you leave your last job?"

lol, like he'll even get an interview now :p