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skywarp1978
04-19-2010, 1:54 PM
I have always wanted a trench gun for a very long time, but I can't afford a real one. I recently got the SOG flyer, and they have the m97 trench gun which I think is made by Norinco. Now, this is very affordable, but does anyone else know of a place in California or any place cheaper that stocks them? Looks like SOG is currently sold out. I think the cheapest FFL near me charges $50 for transfers.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/iac-md-97-walnut-stock-12ga-pump-1.html

a1c
04-19-2010, 1:57 PM
A Chinese repro of a M1917 trench shotgun seems so wrong to me. :confused:

nemisis1400
04-19-2010, 2:18 PM
you could just get a 20" 1897 shotgun and add the bayonet lug and heat shield when you get it. i have an 18.5" 1897 take-down and am eventually planning on getting a 20" barrel and installing the bayo lug and heat shield later.

Interloper
04-19-2010, 2:28 PM
^^^^^^^^
edit: exactly what I was thinking.

I've been thinking of building a repro myself lately. I would start with an actual Winchester 97 though. You can find them in serviceable condition for about the price of the Chinee knockoff. This site (http://www.partsforantiqueguns.com/winreparts.html) has reproduction bayo lug/heatshields. Kinda steep at $175. Then if you Google around you can find the bayonets for around $100. You could probably put the whole thing together for around $500-$600.

nemisis1400
04-19-2010, 3:07 PM
my problem is getting the 20" barrel, those cost something like $200. but every now and then you can find a 1897 with a longer barrel that can be chopped down. I don't care too much for my barrel since it's a mismatch with the receiver so that doesn't matter.

nemisis1400
04-19-2010, 3:10 PM
oh and the noricos should be solid frames instead of takedowns so they should be more durable for bayonet impacts. dunno how often I'm gonna need to bayonet something, i figure it's gonna be a rare thing, so I'm only putting one on mine cuz it looks cool.

Someguy925
04-19-2010, 3:40 PM
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=7454

You could also check here for 20" barrels.

nemisis1400
04-19-2010, 3:53 PM
I wonder if there is a difference in barrels between solid frame, and take-down shotguns. thanks for the link, 127 is cheaper than 200 i would've spent otherwise!

Spiggy
04-19-2010, 4:32 PM
I have a chicom knock and a real winchester. It's not bad of a repro.

Out of the box, I just needed some file work to smooth out some bits. The rest was racking it menacingly inside the house at the television set.

TRICKSTER
04-19-2010, 4:52 PM
Go here http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/ Brand=IAC, Model=97, then your zip code for dealers in your area.

skywarp1978
04-19-2010, 9:24 PM
That gun genie website is great, but the closest place that has them in stock for a reasonable price is around 40 minutes away. Not bad, and better then paying any transfer fees. Now for building my own, that sounds good too. I just checked gunbroker and their are a few on their that look like good projects. Tough decision, because if it gets anymore expensive, I will just put in for a CMP Garand and start saving more cash for a bayonet and trench gun later.

BroncoBob
04-19-2010, 9:39 PM
Got one from Davidsons back in 2007. Good repo and have had zero failures with it. It consumes any ammo I feed it. Nothing like my 870 which was a PITA until I got it fixed.

Spiggy
04-19-2010, 11:09 PM
^ have you gotten cut before?

I've heard the chicoms were notorious for giving the user a lovebite, but I've never come across such a thing.

With the real one, I have...

Someoneelseok
04-19-2010, 11:16 PM
^ First thing in the morning, my roommate comes back home with a Winchester model 1897 (FTF from a CG'er), so naturally the first we do is cycle the action, load snapcaps and check it out.

Well, I'm left-handed, 5 minutes later...OUCH! I cut myself with the action. Apparently this is a common problem for lefty's.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Action_open.JPG

Someguy925
04-20-2010, 9:18 AM
I've heard the chicoms were notorious for giving the user a lovebite, but I've never come across such a thing.


Well, I'm left-handed, 5 minutes later...OUCH! I cut myself with the action. Apparently this is a common problem for lefty's.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Action_open.JPG

Yeah, you need to watch where you put your hands.

Spiggy
04-20-2010, 11:37 AM
yea, I've never been bitten by the chicom one :p