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Eat Dirt
04-17-2010, 8:33 PM
I need a little info
I have a friend who bought a Garand from a private party and he wants to know the year it was made

I tried the usuall site I always used for looking uo the dates on Springfields and it's not working

http://armscollectors.com/sn/winlookup.php

Anybody have a line on another info. site ??

Nihonto Chicken
04-17-2010, 8:48 PM
Try this one:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzewegj7/id11.html

Eat Dirt
04-17-2010, 9:19 PM
Thanks A Lot.

That site is a lot better

Now ...... Are you sitting down ......
It's a Oct. '42
He got it from a guy for $ 300..............!!!!!!!!!!!
But it's been converted to a blank fireing parade gun
It will need a replacement barrel and gas block tube

TRICKSTER
04-17-2010, 9:48 PM
Not bad, CMP is selling them for $345.

Eat Dirt
04-18-2010, 12:03 AM
Not bad, CMP is selling them for $345.

Is that what the blank guns are going for ?

TRICKSTER
04-18-2010, 12:18 AM
Yep, http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm

M1 Garand Drill Rifles
ITEM # RM1DRILL
DESCRIPTION:M1 Garand Drill Rifle (Description Below)
PRICE: $345

Fits the description of our Rack Grade with the additions of: gas cylinder lock screw is welded to lock and gas cylinder, barrel is drilled, plugged and welded at chamber mouth. Barrel is welded to the receiver, firing pin hole is welded closed on bolt face. Rifle wear will be exhibited by worn and mixed colors of the finish; there may be some pitting on the metal parts; wood will be basically sound but may be well used with minor hairline cracks, poor fit, and many dings, scratches and gouges; wood may not match in color, type of wood or condition. Wood may be Walnut, Birch, Beech or other variety.

Eat Dirt
04-18-2010, 9:08 AM
Thanks for all the info.
Very interesting

The one my friend got has No welds anywhere
All the actions work perfect / Firing pin works fine

I have a dunny rounds En-Block clip I use to show my Garand , off so I used it in his Garand and all the funcitions worked fine
The barrel has fine threads on the end and a 2 inch plug type thing was added that has a small hole in the end to let the gasses out

I had a heck of a time untheading it off . It must of been on for a Lot of years. But once it came off I used a bore snake a few times the bore looked fine

Now the gas cylinder lock screw will not turn but the whole pice will slide off the barrel
Maybe a replacement part is needed

Nihonto Chicken
04-18-2010, 8:35 PM
Check this out re an M1 detail strip:

http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/detailstrip.html

The section on the gas cylinder assembly is at the bottom, or click on this:

http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/striphtml/detailstripgassystem.html

TregoMark
04-19-2010, 8:46 AM
Now ...... Are you sitting down ......
It's a Oct. '42
He got it from a guy for $ 300..............!!!!!!!!!!!
But it's been converted to a blank fireing parade gun
It will need a replacement barrel and gas block tube


Sounds like a sweet deal. The CMP drill rifles don't fire. The firing pin hole is welded closed. Those rifles a meant to be thrown and flipped - not fired.

Post some pics if you can. Any markings on barrel under the op rod
(like S-A-10-42 or S-A 7 53 etc)? Is the gas tube (cylinder) damaged? How exactly was it modified for blank firing? Some pics of the gas cylinder area might help in figuring out what's wrong.

I actually have a 10-42 Garand, serial #902855.

Eat Dirt
04-19-2010, 9:10 AM
I'm going over to his house today to get some pictures

I don't know why I didn't think of taking any when I had it on my bench

I.ve never seen a Garand with threads on the end of the barrel