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Kenshin
02-22-2006, 8:06 PM
What the title says. Pump or auto.

Stanze
02-22-2006, 9:52 PM
It's not on sale anymore, but Turner's alway's have similiar deals.

http://www.turners.com/engage/ads/02-02-06/rem870tact.gif

I handled that in the store, it points great, and the pistol grip was very comfortable. And, it looks cool like a 870, because it IS a cool 870.:cool:

Jeff Rambo
02-22-2006, 10:14 PM
It's $529 right now at Turners, which is the same price as the FN Tactical Police Shotgun w/ C-More sight-
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=44175377

Then it is more expensive than the FN TPS w/o C-More sight-
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=44128143

Winner-
FN TPS.

nbx
02-22-2006, 10:25 PM
FN Tactical Police Shotgun is a tricked out Winchester 1300 pump which Winchester discontinued. FN Tactical Police Shotgun is too high in price compared to Remington pumps. Most of the threads I've read state that the TPS has unfavorable recoil with heavier loads. The kick is probably due to the telescoping stock.

jessegpresley
02-23-2006, 12:30 AM
The recoil on the FN TPS is brisk, but not unmanageable. It is of a higher quality than an 870 Express. The 870 Tactical is merely an 870 Express painted green with a pistol grip stock, and is not an 870P. I'm not aware of the 1300 Defender being discontinued. The FN TPS is a very well made shotgun.

For a comperable shotgun, think around...

$300-$400 for a 870P/590
$265 for the AR stock and picatinny rail from Mesa Tactical
$250 for Vang Comp to port the barrel,
$150 for Briley Manufacturing to backbore the barrel
$220 for the C-More Slide Ride scope.

All that may or may not be necessary, but it's what comes with the TPS. It retails for $800, so $530 including a free C-More is a deal by any stretch of the imagination.


http://guns.wicked96ss.com/fnh_police_tactical/thumbs_d/mi_fnh_police_tactical9_2_jpg.jpg

blkA4alb
02-23-2006, 12:37 AM
i think the FN TPS is the baddest (in a good way) looking shotguns, BUT how much would the guys at the trap range laugh if i tried shooting clays with it:confused:? mainly for HD though.

Mesa Tactical
02-23-2006, 6:11 AM
I was speaking with a customer yesterday (a law enforcement officer in Texas) and he swears up and down that our High-tube AR stock systems actually improve felt recoil (because the stock is in-line with the barrel). We've heard this before a number of times, but this was the first time anyone was as emphatic about it.

With the FN TPS and Mesa Tactical and Cavalry Arms set-ups, the stocks are straight back against your shoulder, rather than coming down at an angle as with traditional comb stocks or the Armstech AR adapter. We suspect this arrangement improves perceived recoil.

LOW2000
02-23-2006, 10:05 AM
I'm partial to my Mossy 500, 8-shot 20"bbl pump. :cool: I know I certainly wouldn't want to be on the business end of it.

xenophobe
02-23-2006, 12:00 PM
For a comperable shotgun, think around...
$250 for Vang Comp to port the barrel,
$150 for Briley Manufacturing to backbore the barrel


The VCS includes porting and backboring the barrel. $240 is also full retail price.

GTKrockeTT
02-23-2006, 12:04 PM
my only pump is the winchester 1300, although i wouldn't have any qualms about adding an 870 or mossberg 590.

for coolest looking...this is all a matter of opinion, but the benelli nova could get the nod for the < 400 category. add another hundred to your budget, and you can also take a look at HK's Fabarm FP6.

GTKrockeTT
02-23-2006, 12:06 PM
I'm partial to my Mossy 500, 8-shot 20"bbl pump. :cool: I know I certainly wouldn't want to be on the business end of it.

not sure you'll find too many willing to be on the business end of any pump.;)

rkt88edmo
02-23-2006, 1:12 PM
What the title says. Pump or auto.

AIRSOFT!!!

shopkeep
02-23-2006, 5:25 PM
It's not on sale anymore, but Turner's alway's have similiar deals.

http://www.turners.com/engage/ads/02-02-06/rem870tact.gif

I handled that in the store, it points great, and the pistol grip was very comfortable. And, it looks cool like a 870, because it IS a cool 870.:cool:

I actually picked up one of the Remington 870 Tacticals about a year back. They're extremely evil looking, hold TONS of ammo (heck the extension is longer than the barrel LOL!), and you gotta dig the green parkarized finish :D!

saki302
02-23-2006, 7:11 PM
I bought a C&R Remington Model 11 awhile back- recoil operated semi auto. I got it for $80 or so, put maybe another $30 into it (extended mag tube, recoil pad), and made a 'tactical' shotgun for about $110. :D

It works well, and feels much like a Benelli, with slightly softer recoil (whole barrel recoils back on firing, like a cannon).

-Dave

GTKrockeTT
02-23-2006, 7:36 PM
the FP6 still has my vote...

http://www.frag-ops.hu/ismertetok/weapons/Shotgun/so/fp6-big.jpg

nbx
02-23-2006, 8:52 PM
FN TPS is based on a discontinued shotgun.

Winchester Model 1300 no longer made in New Haven manufacturing facility which closed:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=27003&highlight=winchester+closes

Effective March 31, 2006 the New Haven manufacturing facility will stop manufacturing the Winchester Model 70, Model 94 and Model 1300.

Is the Winchester Model 1300 still produced in another Winchester facility?

jessegpresley
02-24-2006, 2:03 PM
I would assume that another company will come along, buy the Winchester factory, and carry the baton. There's too much in the Winchester name as a brand for some investor to let it die.

I do know that the FN SLP is made in Belgium, which is a rebranded Winchester, perhaps they'll start making the TPS there, too?

Mesa Tactical
02-24-2006, 2:24 PM
I would assume that another company will come along, buy the Winchester factory, and carry the baton. There's too much in the Winchester name as a brand for some investor to let it die.

Winchester name is alive and well. There was a big Winchester booth at SHOT. I think the only things that are going away are the Model 1300, Model 70 and Model 94, unless FN picks up the slack.

I do know that the FN SLP is made in Belgium, which is a rebranded Winchester, perhaps they'll start making the TPS there, too?

FN had their own booth where the FN TPS shotgun (a blinged up Model 1300) was prominantly displayed. Maybe they are making the 1300 in Belgium after all.

Kenshin
02-24-2006, 4:20 PM
I thought the FP6 was discontinued...

Also, whaddya mean the Rem. Tactical isn't on sale anymore? The Remington website says those things are 'NEW for 2006"!

nbx
03-02-2006, 10:18 PM
there's a FN TPS Tactical Police Shotgun 12ga NIB on gunbroker for $495.00:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=44128143

It the best price i have seen yet.

RedBluff
03-02-2006, 10:39 PM
the FP6 still has my vote...

http://www.frag-ops.hu/ismertetok/weapons/Shotgun/so/fp6-big.jpg

It has mine too. It's on my list "To Buy".

Jeff Rambo
03-03-2006, 1:23 AM
there's a FN TPS Tactical Police Shotgun 12ga NIB on gunbroker for $495.00:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=44128143

It the best price i have seen yet.

Pay the extra coin and get the C-more... still the best deal you will see.

jessegpresley
03-03-2006, 4:29 PM
I agree with Jeff, the same seller has the one with the C-More for $35 more. Street price is $200 so even if you didn't want it, you could buy the one with the C-More, sell it and make some cash.

Crazed_SS
03-06-2006, 7:25 AM
Here's mine..

Cheap, but sexy :)

http://members.cox.net/2000ss/guns/IMG_0164.jpg

Santa Cruz Armory
03-06-2006, 9:26 AM
Remington Model 11 16 Gauge.


I've had this for a looooooooong time. An oldie but a goodie.



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/BLFD1/P1010263.jpg

Hoss.870
03-06-2006, 10:33 AM
Pay the extra coin and get the C-more... still the best deal you will see.

The C-More optic is okay. You are better off by paying a little more and getting an EoTec holosight.

Jeff Rambo
03-06-2006, 10:42 AM
That's the thing, it would not be "a little more" to get the EoTech. The C-More is being included in the $529 price. That price alone is roughly $200-$300 under what these shotguns normally go for. Plus the $200 that the C-More normally goes for. Add it up and you are saving yourself almost $500, with that in mind though you can turn around and sell the C-More to fund an EoTech if that is what you desire.

ja391
03-06-2006, 5:23 PM
Also, whaddya mean the Rem. Tactical isn't on sale anymore? The Remington website says those things are 'NEW for 2006"!

I believe he meant that it wasn't on sale at Turners at this moment, but they usually do put it back on sale for around $370.

nbx
03-09-2006, 10:25 PM
Does the C-More scope make a big difference at the range?

FAT DUCK
03-10-2006, 12:16 AM
My winchester 1300 pump never gave me a problem. I paid $299.00 for it and I would do it all over again if i could. Different barrels are avalible, I think:D

nbx
03-13-2006, 9:05 PM
There are two FN TPS Tactical Police Shotgun 12ga NIB at gunbroker.com:

$495.00

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=45015093



$529.00 with C-More

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=45015094


They have been at gunbroker.com for a while but even at the lower prices they are not sold. The FN TPS is tactical looking but it's still a dressed up pump. In my opinion FN over priced their MSRP ($800). There are a lot of good shotguns for $500. In my opinion the FN TPS should sell of under $400.

Jeff Rambo
03-13-2006, 9:16 PM
nbx-

The seller has a full inventory of these shotguns, it is not just one that has forever been listed.

jessegpresley
03-14-2006, 9:50 AM
Yeah, the seller on Gunbroker.com has sold dozens of these. a look at completed auctions shows 10 since mid-January.

nbx says they shouldn't cost over $400, I guess he didn't read my first post in this thread where I broke down it's price:

$300-$400 for a Winchester 1300 Defender
$265 for the AR stock and picatinny rail from Mesa Tactical
$250 for Vang Comp to port and backbore the barrel
$220 for the C-More Slide Ride scope.

Total, $1,035-$1,135.00.

The build quality is superlative to my Mossberg 500A or my friends Remington 870 Express.

fawndog
03-14-2006, 9:56 AM
They have been at gunbroker.com for a while but even at the lower prices they are not sold. The FN TPS is tactical looking but it's still a dressed up pump. In my opinion FN over priced their MSRP ($800). There are a lot of good shotguns for $500. In my opinion the FN TPS should sell of under $400.

They make good stuff, and it's based on a good design. Reduce the price by the C-More alone and you have a solid pump gun at $280 not to mention the backboring and porting.

http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/guns_525px/fn_sg_tactical.gif

nbx
03-16-2006, 8:32 PM
FN TPS: The parts cost more than the whole. In the end you are paying a high price for a pump.

Why are so few FN TPS sold in comparison to the other brands?

Mesa Tactical
03-17-2006, 3:56 AM
Why are so few FN TPS sold in comparison to the other brands?

It's a Winchester 1300. Compared to Mossbergs and Remingtons, there are damned few Winchester 1300s sold.

The Remington 870 is the hands-down favorite pump shotgun for US law enforcement. The Mossberg 500/590 has for a long time been used by the US military, and is also a favorite with budget-minded civilians.

Winchester/FN is a small player in this market by comparison. We make some parts for the Winchester 1300 and sell very few of them.

denalion22
03-17-2006, 6:44 PM
THIS IS MY REMINGTON 870. NOW IT IS NOT A CHEAP SET UP, BUT I WILL GO TO BATTLE WITH IT ANYDAY OF THE WEEK.
CONTAINS:
MAGPUL M93B STOCK
MAGPUL MAID GRIP
KNIGHTS RAS RAIL
AIMPOINT M3 W/NIGHT VISION OPTION
SUREFIRE FOREARM LIGHT
Argonaut Armament AR15-870 CQB Stock Adapterhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/denalion22/Remington870tactical.jpg

ALTSEC972
03-20-2006, 1:46 PM
the FP6 still has my vote...

http://www.frag-ops.hu/ismertetok/weapons/Shotgun/so/fp6-big.jpg

I personally love my fp6..... Even more when I found out who REALLY makes them! The only thing I kinda dislike about them, is that since they are all hybrid materials, it's not the recoil that bothers me, it's the vibration levels from the damn thing..... I can friggen feel my teeth chatter when run heavier slugs through it.

Oh, and BTW, that's the tactical, entry model in the pics, I think it has the 10 inch barrel.

I thought the FP6 was discontinued..........

I did not hear that they were discontinued..... but if FABARM stops making them, then thats what I'd believe.... just 'cause HK takes their name off them, doesn't mean squat about manufacturing...... since they were under license... and the contract probably ended, and no one wanted to renew it, (HK has a history with this kinda thing and shotguns)

jessegpresley
03-24-2006, 1:18 AM
FN TPS: The parts cost more than the whole.

You're right, thanks for supporting my argument that the FN TPS for $529 is an excellent value when considering its many bells and whistles.

Why are so few FN TPS sold in comparison to the other brands?

I'm not a marketing major, but I believe the general consensus is that as a price rises, demand decreases.

Few departments would okay the purchase of an $800 item when a $300 item would suffice.

The 870 has de facto law enforcement pump, and knocking it off its perch surely would prove difficult.

But I think we were talking about the FN TPS for $529 as a good price, not about its perceived popularity.

nbx
03-25-2006, 1:36 AM
jessegpresley, the FN TPS Tactical Police Shotgun looks tricked out but in reality a cheaper shotgun like a Remington or a Mossburg will shoot better. The car stock on the FN TPS is uncomfortable and harsh recoil when shooting and effects your follow up shot. Therefore the higher priced FN TPS Tactical Police Shotgun gives you less performance than a cheaper Remington or Mossburg. So in essence you are paying more money for the tricked out look.

If the FN TPS Tactical Police Shotgun was $400 or less, I think more people would buy it for its cool tactical look.

jessegpresley
03-27-2006, 12:19 AM
I think most people would disagree that "a cheaper shotgun like a Remington or a Mossberg will shoot better".

The barrel has been backbored and ported and a picatiny rail has been put on for aftermarket sights. The aid of an aftermarket sight and the diminished recoil from the work on the barrel would be welcome to many shooters.

I don't know why it's believed that an AR stock is inherantly uncomfortable; there are a number of recoil pads available for AR stocks which would mimic the surface area of a regular shotgun stock if the particular shooter did deem the AR stock uncomfortable.

Now if someone wants a shotgun, there are many to chose from at a myriad of price points.

If you're happy with a $219 Mossberg 500a that's great. I have one and enjoy it as well. But not everyone drives a Honda Civic. The FN TPS is the Maserati of the pump shotgun world, along Vang Comp and Scattergun Technologies. You might not see the value of spending more for a Ferrari. That doesn't make them less of an automobile; just not what everyone wants or needs.

fawndog
03-27-2006, 11:25 AM
FN TPS with slugs hits the shoulder hard. I'm currently looking for a pad for the CAR stock.

Also, any problems with a follow-up shot due to recoil are mitigated by a very nice halo sight.

Jon
03-27-2006, 12:46 PM
Fawndog (BARF, yes?), I don't remember where you're located, but you could pick up a VLTOR/SOG pad from Reed's Indoor Range or:

http://ml-trading.biz/contact.html

They run about $20. I have one on my VLTOR clubfoot and am pleased.

Jicko
03-27-2006, 2:22 PM
You guys now get me wanted to buy this FN TPS!!!!!!!

I never had a shotgun.... and I was looking into getting a 870 or a M500....
but now.... this TPS w/ C-more is VERY attractive!!!

One of the MOST attractive thing is that all my newly acquired AR-toys can be mounted onto this TPS!!! So, I can switch the scopes around, I can switch the buttstock and pistolgrip around too!!!

** EDIT ** Why couldn't I find this FN TPS on FN's website?????

jessegpresley
03-27-2006, 3:46 PM
Why couldn't I find this FN TPS on FN's website?????

You have to look under the "shotgun" section. They also have a newly added TPS with an AR fixed stock.

nbx
03-27-2006, 9:20 PM
I don't regard the FN TPS as the Ferrarri of pumps because it is basically a Winchester 1300. More like a V8 Chevy with some kick.

If you check on shotgun forums most users say the FN TPS will tear up your shoulder with out a rubber pad:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=50336&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15


Here's the link to the new fixed stock FN TPS:

http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/sg_tactical_fix.htm

fawndog
03-28-2006, 2:08 PM
Thanks, I need to get something for the club foot.


I'll liken the TPS to a Corvette, the thing is light compared to my 1014 which is more Ferrari like.:)

jessegpresley
03-28-2006, 2:20 PM
IIf you check on shotgun forums most users say the FN TPS will tear up your shoulder with out a rubber pad:

I saw a single person say "Some guys have a Magpul M93 or standard M4 stock on their TPS', and apparently the lack of any padding tears up your shoulder pretty quickly."

I don't think a lone third party observation qualifies as "most users".

But for sake of argument, lets say it does tear up your shoulder. This is solved with a $15 AR pad.

Nbx, do you own or have you shot one of these TPS?

fawndog
03-28-2006, 2:38 PM
Patterns at 25 yards with Federal Tatical 8 pellet 00.

nbx
03-28-2006, 9:48 PM
fawndog, how does the FN TPS compare to the state of the art Benelli M4?

Jon
03-28-2006, 11:45 PM
Thanks, I need to get something for the club foot.


I'll liken the TPS to a Corvette, the thing is light compared to my 1014 which is more Ferrari like.:)

Ooo, I didn't know you had an M1014! Those are very nice. :cool:

jessegpresley
03-29-2006, 12:31 AM
fawndog, how does the FN TPS compare to the state of the art Benelli M4?

Is that like comparing a revolver to a semi-auto pistol?

fawndog
03-29-2006, 5:34 PM
Is that like comparing a revolver to a semi-auto pistol?
Yes, kind of similar.

I just wanted a "reliable" (read pump) scatter gun, I chose this for the purpose of 3 gunning and HD (just in case the auto became problematic).

This thread has already revealed a good amount of info on the TPS, so I'll only give my impression.

1. nice halo sight and iron sights
2. good thick barrel with (IC choke ?) front sight makes mounting a breeching device a machinist task. http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=363189&size=big&password=&sort=7&thecat=500
3. I don't think it fits well with a A2 or M4 stock. The TPS forces you to pull your cheek down to the stock to get a sight picture through the irons, it feels akward. The 1014 lifts into place naturaly and neutral, with the stock in your shoulder your sight pic is instant. Also the TPS has a light rear as far as balance goes. I would like to replace/modify the stock so as to make it easier to aim.

I know comparing the two is apples and oranges, but I think a gun should feel good as well as shoot good.

nbx
03-30-2006, 9:39 PM
Does an ACE ARFX stock with rubber pad help out the balance issue and recoil on a FN TPS?

Pics of FN TPS with ACE stock:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=40059&postdays=0&postorder=desc&start=270


http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=40059&postdays=0&postorder=desc&start=285

fawndog
03-31-2006, 5:40 AM
Looks like it would, I seem to have more of a problem with the drop at comb and heel.
Even with the ACE it has no drop.
http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/guns_525px/fn_sg_tactical.gif
http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/images/m4-small-guns.jpg

Mesa Tactical
03-31-2006, 6:57 AM
Looks like it would, I seem to have more of a problem with the drop at comb and heel.
Even with the ACE it has no drop.


That's something we never understood about the FN TPS. The stock elevation seems to be simply too high for most people to use the iron sights.

Our first telescoping stock adapters, based on AR-15 geometry, were way too high. So they can only be used with rail mounted optics.

When we designed our Low-tube adapters, we kept experimenting to see how much we would have to lower the stock elevation to be able to use the iron sights. We had to lower the stock a full inch.

http://www.mesatactical.com/images/high_tube_and_low_tube.gif

The FN TPS stock is somewhere between our High- and Low-tube. We just don't see how it can work without the optics. But it does, for some people.

fawndog
03-31-2006, 7:28 AM
I have your low tube adapter ordered (on-408), can't wait to see how it fits. ;)

blkA4alb
03-31-2006, 3:18 PM
what rifle is that on top? it looks awesome. a remington 700? 308? just a guess. http://www.visuality.com/personal/armory/081305.jpg

JWC6
03-31-2006, 4:48 PM
what rifle is that on top? it looks awesome. a remington 700? 308? just a guess. http://www.visuality.com/personal/armory/081305.jpg

Accuracy International (ACIS) 1.5 stock for the remington 700 action...

CowtownBallin
03-31-2006, 5:36 PM
Mossberg 500 20" : $220
DROS & tax: $45
AR-15 style stock w/ pistol-grip: $70
Heat shield w/ ghost-ring sights: $30
Sling w/ shotshell holder: $30

Total: $395

highspeed11
03-31-2006, 6:51 PM
Mossberg 500 20" : $220 Big5?
DROS & tax: $45
AR-15 style stock w/ pistol-grip: $70 Where?
Heat shield w/ ghost-ring sights: $30 Where?
Sling w/ shotshell holder: $30 Where?

Total: $395
Sounds good.

blkA4alb
03-31-2006, 10:07 PM
Accuracy International (ACIS) 1.5 stock for the remington 700 action...
actually nevermind for now:D i just looked at the prices, 750 just for the stock. no cash for that right now..:(

Rums
04-02-2006, 2:13 PM
Don't worry about looks, worry about sound ;) Mossberg 500A is beautiful in that department.

mow
04-02-2006, 5:07 PM
Don't worry about looks, worry about sound ;) Mossberg 500A is beautiful in that department.

Don't forget that it kicks like a horse too :p

blkA4alb
04-02-2006, 5:41 PM
Don't forget that it kicks like a horse too :p
This has always confused me, my recently bought 500a really doesnt have that much recoil, at least to me. maybe im just recoil proof:D. i would shoot my 500 all day if not for the cost of ammo, obviously.

mow
04-03-2006, 7:33 AM
This has always confused me, my recently bought 500a really doesnt have that much recoil, at least to me. maybe im just recoil proof:D. i would shoot my 500 all day if not for the cost of ammo, obviously.


Really? I switched to my friends semi auto browning and it was like holding a feather while firing.

Rums
04-03-2006, 12:37 PM
Of course it kicks like a horse, that's part of the fun.

PLINK
04-03-2006, 6:52 PM
I have this Norinco 98 which I picked up at Big 5 a few years ago for $149 on sale. It is basically a Remington 870 with ghost sights. I think it looks cool and it works like a shot gun should.

fawndog
04-03-2006, 7:50 PM
http://www.mesatactical.com/images/high_tube_and_low_tube.gif

The FN TPS stock is somewhere between our High- and Low-tube. We just don't see how it can work without the optics. But it does, for some people.

I have machined your Winchester 1300 low tube adapter to make it fit a FN TPS (good amount of work). I like the feel much better, it puts the sights very close to my ideal elevation. I think 1.5 inches would be perfect.

The factory set up was all wrong if you needed to use the iron sights.

AggregatVier
04-03-2006, 11:52 PM
Mesa: Where can you get an AR-15 type front sight tower like what is shown in the photo?

Mesa Tactical
04-04-2006, 7:00 AM
Mesa: Where can you get an AR-15 type front sight tower like what is shown in the photo?

That came on Sonny's FN TPS. We're not aware of any such aftermarket front post for shotguns.

However, we have one customer in Germany who fitted an AR-15 front sight to his Winchester 1300, though he put it on backwards. Still works fine, he told us:

http://www.mesatactical.com/images/mesa_tactical_deutschchester.jpg

VeryCoolCat
04-07-2006, 5:57 PM
The FN TPS with the surefire has a pretty hard recoil. I'm a little wary to even try it with a 3" Slug. Albeit the recoil is a little strong, its nothing you cant handle and easily get used to.

Unfortunately, the problem with the TPS as mentioned. The stock is too high to effeciently use the Iron/c-more sight. It takes some time to get used to it.

You need to keep the stock pretty high against you and drop your head a signicant ammount.

The iron sights are pretty accurate at 25yd, i prefer the iron sights over the c-more.

I love the feel to it though. Like shooting an AR that kicks like a mule.

Crazed_SS
04-09-2006, 8:12 PM
Just got some new goodies for my shotgun.
http://members.cox.net/2000ss/guns/shotgunsling.jpg

http://www.spectergear.com/cst_sling.htm
http://www.spectergear.com/shotgun_bsh.htm

:D

nbx
04-11-2006, 9:05 PM
VeryCoolCat, thanks for the feedback on the FN TPS. I'm going to pass on the FN TPS and save up for a Benelli M4

10K2HVN
04-18-2006, 4:49 AM
I have machined your Winchester 1300 low tube adapter to make it fit a FN TPS (good amount of work). I like the feel much better, it puts the sights very close to my ideal elevation. I think 1.5 inches would be perfect.

The factory set up was all wrong if you needed to use the iron sights.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=769&d=1144118336

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=770&d=1144118343

Now thats a nice setup!