PDA

View Full Version : Dinky Stag Mags


Tyler
02-21-2006, 11:16 PM
Look how small the 10 round Stag magazines are. Before I built my rifle I put 10 rounds in there just to make sure it held that many. It seems like all the other rifles on here have much longer magazines. Donít get me wrong, I think it is awesome that this mag is stubby. It will not get in the way while loading.

http://pictures.evilperson.com/Stag%20Mag.jpg


The mag is almost flush.
http://pictures.evilperson.com/Fixed%20Mag%20AR.jpg

tenpercentfirearms
02-21-2006, 11:26 PM
I am getting ready to order ten of them tomorrow. Who is interested? I wonder how many I should buy. Suggestions?

SkyStorm82
02-21-2006, 11:47 PM
I thought the Stag mags were the new bushmaster mags...only with bushmaster's logo removed.

I personally don't like the look of it.

bu-bye
02-22-2006, 12:55 AM
Hmmmmm not sure If I like them or not. The nice thing about the Bushy mags is the extra length which you can use a front grip. That is also the down side to the Bushy mags. there is just a lot of wasted space. In my 30rd mag pouches I can fit one BM mag but not two. It would be nice to pack two maybe three little mags in one pocket. It would also be nice to have a small bag full of these like you would keep Garand clips. If the price is right and they do drop free I could see buying a number of them.

ldivinag
02-22-2006, 1:13 AM
how much as these puppies?

xenophobe
02-22-2006, 1:14 AM
those look good

bu-bye
02-22-2006, 1:21 AM
how much as these puppies?
Just checked

20 bones:eek:

Its also $20 for 20rd and 30rd. Man, we are getting the shaft here!

Henry47
02-22-2006, 2:21 AM
looks.....not good. A large part of the reason why I signed up for the "unlisted lower" deal was because I wanted an ar that didnt look neutered (Such as the fab 10). I'd prefer them bushy 20 rder look alikes (btw wes, money order is goig out in the mail tomorrow.):D

Pablo
02-22-2006, 2:38 AM
mmm... I guess I'm going to be the only who dislikes that magazines. It looks really ugly IMO.

tenpercentfirearms
02-22-2006, 6:27 AM
The way I look at it you might want to have a Bushy stick out of there for looks on some rifles and you might want the Stag to be flush on others. I will probably do a trial run of 30. My price will be $20 like Stags, but you know me, I will have other goodies you want like the fixed mag kits and soon I will have in stock Watson Weapons quick rear take down pins! That is right, I ordered just a few. ;)

-hanko
02-22-2006, 6:42 AM
Its also $20 for 20rd and 30rd. Man, we are getting the shaft here!
Free world prices for look like around $12-15 for new 20's and 30's. The shaft is still present in the prk.

-hanko

ocabj
02-22-2006, 8:17 AM
I wouldn't mind one of those for load testing from a bench. I use 20 rounders for load testing / chronographing from a bench since the 30 is too long.

billym
02-22-2006, 8:24 AM
I think the shorter look might keep some unwanted attention from your rifle when at the range. Looks more like a Fab-10's profile.

How do I order some?
Bill

tenpercentfirearms
02-22-2006, 8:39 AM
I just asked for 30, but he said he doesn't think they have that many, so I said send me what you have.

As far as price goes, stop and think about it for a second. The US Military and other LEO agencies order 30 round mags in the millions. So it is pretty cheap to kick out tons of them and sell off your left overs, hence the cheap price. Plus a lot of those get used and find their way onto the market.

For the 10 round mags, they are pretty much made specifically for California and other restricted mag markets. That is it. The government or LEOs are not asking for 10 rounders. So to try and say because a 30 rounder takes more money and is $15 so 10 rounders should be the same is not accurate. When government agencies and LEOs starting asking for millions of 10 rounders and they have had them in circulation for 30 plus years, the price might decrease. Until then, the manufacturers have to spend money to make these things for what is really a limited market.

Stanze
02-22-2006, 9:00 AM
I thought the Stag mags were the new bushmaster mags...only with bushmaster's logo removed.

I personally don't like the look of it.

I guess they replaced it with the "flush" design.:confused:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7387/img53000ah.jpg
I also prefer the look the 10 round Bushmaster "falsies" mags. They're good for self-esteem.:D They aren't the same length as a curved 20 rounder, but that may be done on purpose, so some poor shmuck doesn't inadvertantly stick in a 10 rounder during a firefight thinking he's getting 20 and die with a perplexed look on his face.:eek:

GTKrockeTT
02-22-2006, 10:39 AM
if i could get a 10 rounder that looks like a 40 round mag or a 100 round drum, i'd do it! ;)

GTKrockeTT
02-22-2006, 10:46 AM
"of course they're only 10 rounders, officer":D

http://www.ebang.com/uimages/1079661_p2.jpg

tenpercentfirearms
02-22-2006, 10:47 AM
10 Round Beta C Mags! Those would sell like hot cakes. :rolleyes:

phish
02-22-2006, 10:57 AM
Can those Stag mags be disasembled so a single-shot follower can be put in?
If that's the case, they'd be cheaper than a Bob Sled and would fit my needs perfectly.

Gregas
02-22-2006, 11:26 AM
I am getting ready to order ten of them tomorrow. Who is interested? I wonder how many I should buy. Suggestions?

I'd be interested in a couple if the price is competitive.

Personally, I think that all the folks that just want big mags so that they look like big boys probably just need some Viagra. Now, if you are using it as palm rest I understand, but otherwise, who needs a useless bit of junk hanging off of the bottom of your rifle!

Between cool looking mags and color-matching uppers and lowers, I get the feeling that many of the people on this group think these rifles are fashion accessories not tools!

I'm also interested in the Bushmaster M17 10-rd mags. These are look like 20rd mags but are straight, not curved. Most importantly, they are legal for CMP / NRA (well, they are if they are not fixed). Plus, they look cool!;)

SkyStorm82
02-22-2006, 11:36 AM
I'd be interested in a couple if the price is competitive.

Personally, I think that all the folks that just want big mags so that they look like big boys probably just need some Viagra. Now, if you are using it as palm rest I understand, but otherwise, who needs a useless bit of junk hanging off of the bottom of your rifle!



I'm also interested in the Bushmaster M17 10-rd mags. These are look like 20rd mags but are straight, not curved. Most importantly, they are legal for CMP / NRA (well, they are if they are not fixed). Plus, they look cool!;)

Maybe WE like the look of the normal capacity magazines and not the bastardized versions we in this state are forced to use now when buying new mags.

You said it yourself though. You think the M17 10-rd mags "look cool". I never really thought of it that way but if I had to choose which was cooler....a 30 round mag vs a 10 round mag. It's going to be the 30 rounder.:)

shopkeep
02-22-2006, 11:42 AM
I for one actually like the 10 round Stag mags because they make the rifles look less evil. Whether there's a ten round bushie in there or a 10 round Stag they operate the same. The only difference is that the 10 round Stag makes it look closer to the FAB-10 and CARBON-15 which further confuses the public, range masters, and the DOJ.

I LIKE IT!

tenpercentfirearms
02-22-2006, 12:07 PM
Shopkeep, your e-mail still doesn't work. I keep getting them kicked back.

Yeah I hate those guys who just want the high capacity looking magazine so they can feel better about being a slave to this liberal state. I heard of a guy who cut an Orlite 30 rounder in half and managed to screw it to the bottom of his FAB-10. What an idiot. It is a tool, not a fashion accessory.

Wait, I found a picture of the guy online. What a tool.
http://home.bak.rr.com/elrojo14/pictures/Rojocab10a.JPG
http://home.bak.rr.com/elrojo14/pictures/rojofab10b.JPG

Stanze
02-22-2006, 12:08 PM
Gee, I like guns because they are fun and fun looking. With some of the logic presented here, any member of the opposite sex will do for reproduction purposes.:rolleyes:

SkyStorm82
02-22-2006, 12:20 PM
Yeah I hate those guys who just want the high capacity looking magazine so they can feel better about being a slave to this liberal state.

Hmmmm....I didn't mean to come off that way. I carried an M-4 for years in the 82nd and I'm just used to the look of a normal capacity mag on that kind of rifle. On the other hand, the mags on my SU-16 are flush with the bottom of the magwell and it doesn't bother me in the least.

But you're right, it is a tool and by no means does anything make me feel better about taking it from the state.

shopkeep
02-22-2006, 12:31 PM
Shopkeep, your e-mail still doesn't work. I keep getting them kicked back.

It should be working now, I got one of your e-mails later in the day yesterday. Some folks are still telling me some e-mails are being kicked back though. Send the invoice again on Thursday and make sure you add two of those cool new Stag magazines.

Personally I like the Looks of the Stag magazines.

-hanko
02-22-2006, 1:07 PM
As far as price goes, stop and think about it for a second. The US Military and other LEO agencies order 30 round mags in the millions. So it is pretty cheap to kick out tons of them and sell off your left overs, hence the cheap price. Plus a lot of those get used and find their way onto the market.
I spoke only to bu-bye's comment about 20's and 30's...New Helvetia Trading, as close as SAC, has new usgi 30's in the neighborhood of ~$15; going rate for new mags on arfcom is also around $15. Obviously, the 10's are lower volume & will cost more. $15 is too much for used mags, save maybe some scarce ones like USAF 20's with aluminum followers.

A 30 doesn't work well off the bench or shooting prone.

Edited to add http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=29136...that's more like it.

-hanko

Gregas
02-22-2006, 1:10 PM
Gee, I like guns because they are fun and fun looking. With some of the logic presented here, any member of the opposite sex will do for reproduction purposes.:rolleyes:
It depends on your point of view. Members of the opposite sex are not tools (at least in the literal sense). I know some people like guns for show, and that's just fine. Whatever floats your boat! I can still make fun of them, though.

Stanze
02-22-2006, 1:24 PM
It depends on your point of view. Members of the opposite sex are not tools (at least in the literal sense). I know some people like guns for show, and that's just fine. Whatever floats your boat! I can still make fun of them, though.

No worries, I was just a bit put off by some of the elitist talk around here. I bought a 10 round Bushmaster mag for my AR because I prefered it's appearance over other 10 round mags, if I don't use it as a handgrip, or bought it for that reason...then, I'm a "tool" by the same people that own and sell said mags?

Please.

tenpercentfirearms
02-22-2006, 2:59 PM
Stanze, that "tool" in the pictures above who tricked out his FAB-10, is me. :o I am one gun dealer who could care less why you buy a gun or what goes on it. Whatever floats your boat. So if you want a 10 round flush mag, great. If you want a 10 round Bushmaster mag, great. If you want a 10 round Beta C Mag, great. It doesn't matter to me. That is why I was poking fun at myself. I guess most people didn't realize the bearded red headed man is me. You do what you want, it is your money. I prefer you do what you want with your money at my shop, so I tend to keep my opinions to myself unless you ask for it. We all know most of the things we are buying will never be anything more than impulsive, safe queens. So do what you want. Anyone who tells you different can shove it. This is America. Live free or die!

Stanze
02-22-2006, 3:03 PM
Stanze, that "tool" in the pictures above who tricked out his FAB-10, is me. :o I am one gun dealer who could care less why you buy a gun or what goes on it. Whatever floats your boat. So if you want a 10 round flush mag, great. If you want a 10 round Bushmaster mag, great. If you want a 10 round Beta C Mag, great. It doesn't matter to me. That is why I was poking fun at myself. I guess most people didn't realize the bearded red headed man is me.

Whoa! I was about to dig into you some more because that guy you eloquently called a idiot and a tool also was an obvious admirer of you and your business with the links in his THR profile. Wow, didn't see that one coming! lol

Hey! I stuck up for you and flamed you at the same time!:) :mad: :D

Take care Wes.

-Stanze

Gregas
02-22-2006, 3:15 PM
Stanze, that "tool" in the pictures above who tricked out his FAB-10, is me. :o or die!

Wes, the only thing I found funny about the pictures is your facial expresssion. You look so serious! Relax, it's lower time!

GTKrockeTT
02-22-2006, 3:16 PM
yeah, that el rojo character is a funny guy.

avidone
02-22-2006, 5:03 PM
I think that 30 round looking Fab10 is great! It demonstrates how absurd the AW ban is.(which is based on looks as well).

Stanze
02-22-2006, 6:03 PM
That FAB-10 project reminds me of the Sen. John McCain story of how when he was a POW, the VC took away their handmade American flag and beat up all the POW's that pledged alligence to the flag every morning. While his eye was almost swollen shut from the beating, McCain's cellmate would start sewing another in utter defiance of his captors.

http://www.iwvpa.net/mccainjs/index.htm

Live free or die indeed Wes.

Fjold
02-22-2006, 6:08 PM
Wes, the only thing I found funny about the pictures is your facial expresssion. You look so serious! Relax, it's lower time!

I dunno, the Capri pants and fuzzy slippers looked more than just a little to "San Francisco" to me!

:D

Kevlarman
02-22-2006, 6:33 PM
Lol, I haven't seen that pic in ages (on THR)!

tenpercentfirearms
02-22-2006, 8:08 PM
This deserves a link to the original THR thread. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=65714&highlight=fab-10+project

When I was messing with all of this and when I first got my FAB-10, I always thought someday I might be able to get a real AR. Boy I never would have thought two years later not only would I have an AR, but I would have sold 200+ stripped lowers in a two month period before stopping and just selling uppers. Heck, I never thought I would have done that 4 months ago!

I dunno, the Capri pants and fuzzy slippers looked more than just a little to "San Francisco" to me!Those are just shorts and my slippers. The scarry thing is I am an avid recylcer and I ride a yellow Honda Metro scooter. I also have lots of guns and usually have my Glock 27 with me when I ride that scooter since I live in Kern County and I have my ccw. Only in California can you have a gun toting, fuzzy slipper wearing, recycling, scooter driver.

Gregas
02-22-2006, 8:54 PM
Only in California can you have a gun toting, fuzzy slipper wearing, recycling, scooter driver.
No sh*t! I want to see a picture of you riding your scooter wearing fuzzy slippers with an AR slung on your back! It really does take all kinds. That's what liberty is about.

Kevlarman
02-23-2006, 7:19 AM
Don't forget the trash bag full of aluminum cans! ;)

Santa Cruz Armory
02-24-2006, 7:52 PM
Hey man, no offense, I GOTTA SEE THAT! you need to post that pic just to break the tension in here. That would do wonders.....:D

tenpercentfirearms
02-24-2006, 11:02 PM
Maybe tomorrow.

tenpercentfirearms
03-24-2006, 11:23 PM
And here you go. CA Legal Lower Scooter Pictures. Now you might have seen it all.

Gregas
03-25-2006, 8:54 AM
I love it. I'm gonna trade in my pickup truck.

Walking Fire
03-25-2006, 11:30 AM
And Now, back to the Stag Mags...
I purchased one of their ten rounders and I am very unhappy with it.:(
The follower works great with one round in the mag, but when I put two in, the gollower will drop back so the bolt wont feed the round.
I have to maually reach into the ejection port to push down on the tio of the round to pop the round up so it will feed, What a pain in the ***, Getting a Bushy ten rd mag .

tenpercentfirearms
03-25-2006, 9:16 PM
I actually used my Stag mag this weekend without any problems. I only shot about 20 rounds. I will say that when you first break down the rifle and put it back in working order, you have to push in on the mag catch lever or the bolt will not pull back. Then you have to hit the forward assist and then push the mag catch lever back and then you can operate the rifle. Bushmasters are probably superior, but if you are running a forward pistol grip, they don't work together so the flush Stag is nice. I have a couple of both.

In fact you will notice that is a Stag in that build I am using on my scooter.

Santa Cruz Armory
03-25-2006, 9:42 PM
Great pictures man ! I've been waiting for those. :D

I have a couple 10 round Bushy mags I got from you (10%) and they work great! I just put about 200 rounds through one today. I need to get another for my third build.