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KrazyKevy
02-21-2006, 4:46 PM
You guys see the new S&W AR15 called the M&P15? Hmmm...wonder how much they will sell their stripped lowers when they get released. :)

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/firearms/811001_spec_sm.jpg

grammaton76
02-21-2006, 4:48 PM
Do a search; apparently S&W is only in the "complete rifle" business, but you could get an out-of-state FFL to buy the rifle for you, then install a fixed-mag kit and ship it to an in-state FFL...

Seems to be the only way to get ahold of their stuff presently.

BigAL
02-21-2006, 4:56 PM
It's really just a rebadged CMT/Stag parts gun with s&w and M&P logo stamped all over it.

shopkeep
02-21-2006, 5:11 PM
The key to getting an M&P 15 into the state would be using an intermediary FFL out of state to pin the mag much like Ben had the JP Rifles Ctr-02 pinned on its way into the state.

fun2none
02-21-2006, 6:20 PM
The key to getting an M&P 15 into the state would be using an intermediary FFL out of state to pin the mag much like Ben had the JP Rifles Ctr-02 pinned on its way into the state.

What about just asking the proxy FFL to disassemble it into a stripped lower (no pistol grip, no mag catch), and make two shipments. The lower goes to your in-state FFL, and the rest of the parts get shipped to your door step.

Super_tactical
02-21-2006, 6:43 PM
Remember, S&W isn't really pro 2nd ammendment. Only what suits their pockets.

xenophobe
02-21-2006, 7:01 PM
I want one.... group buy? lol

staticzero
02-21-2006, 7:22 PM
Funny, it looks about like the Troy CQB-SPC A4. It just lacks the medieval muzzle break, the Tango Down Battlegrip, and the Vltor Clubfoot. http://www.troyind.com/a3_a4_carbines.htm

...which incidentally is about what my first lower build will look like when it's done (except I'll have a 14.5" barrel + fixed Phantom hider).

I wonder what relation there is, if any, between the Troy and S&W offerings?

Justang
02-21-2006, 7:50 PM
Remember, S&W isn't really pro 2nd ammendment. Only what suits their pockets.

Explain your statement.

timmy8151
02-21-2006, 8:25 PM
http://csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/durableRedirect.pl?/durable/2000/12/15/fp2s1-csm.shtml

xenophobe
02-21-2006, 9:09 PM
http://csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/durableRedirect.pl?/durable/2000/12/15/fp2s1-csm.shtml

I guess you're not familiar with recent history.... that was in 2000, at a time that S&W was owned by the British firm of Tomkins Corp. and they made a deal with the Federal Government when Clinton was in office. This deal pissed a lot of gun owners off, and S&W were boycotted by many people nationwide.

In 2001, Saf-T-Hammer, a US company purchased Smith & Wesson and called all deals with the government off and begged and pleaded the American gun buying public to forgive the company for the concessions that Tomkins Corp UK gave to the US Government.

To this day, every Smith & Wesson now carries an American Flag sticker on the box, to show that they are now "American Owned". Smith and Wesson ARE pro 2nd Amendment, and their reputation is recovering quite nicely, and look at the new AR variant that they're offering to both the Civilian and Police gun buying crowd. Obviously some people are still misinformed about S&W, and that's a shame, because the company has been doing a LOT of things right lately... The new M&P-15, the SW1911 and the stuff coming out of the performance center speaks for itself.

scott.cr
02-21-2006, 9:25 PM
Be careful with S&W parts. They're metric.

sszeto
02-21-2006, 9:48 PM
But I still want a M&P15, minus "&" and "1".

EBWhite
02-21-2006, 10:23 PM
i want one!!! AWWWHH

xenophobe
02-21-2006, 11:30 PM
Group buy... lol

Pablo
02-22-2006, 1:55 AM
It's really just a rebadged CMT/Stag parts gun with s&w and M&P logo stamped all over it.

More like Troy Industries/CMT/Stag...