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TonyNorCal
02-20-2006, 1:00 PM
Called DSA and was told they 'can't tell' how they fix their FAL mags:rolleyes: . Also was told they won't convert the rifle to free status if one moves to America. "Once a Cali-rile, always a Cali-rifle" they said. How positively lovely:p .

So for those of you with DSA rifles...how are the mags fixed? Is it a weld-up job? Or is it a preferably CA-compliant 'tool necessary' removal which would allow one to enjoy the life of an American should you go to Nevada for a weekend before returning to our socialist prison camp workers' paradise.

C.G.
02-20-2006, 1:54 PM
DSA does weld them. I guess there were at least two versions, but I am told the one they use now is welding the extractor.

gunshack
02-20-2006, 2:46 PM
socialist prison camp workers' paradise.

Rumor has it they weld 'em up!:eek:

If you want a DSA rifle, and you are open to suggestions; build one yourself. You can probably build two for the price they charge for one. Or, for a little more money DSA will sell you a receiver with a new barrel on it, and you can build the rest your self.

TonyNorCal
02-20-2006, 4:16 PM
Rumor has it they weld 'em up!:eek:

If you want a DSA rifle, and you are open to suggestions; build one yourself. You can probably build two for the price they charge for one. Or, for a little more money DSA will sell you a receiver with a new barrel on it, and you can build the rest your self.

I am always open to suggestions:) .

Well, a weld-up job just doesn't work for me. The receiver/build thing sounds the best.

podobo
02-20-2006, 5:25 PM
I have one and they do indeed weld the ejector but will be easy to convert with 5 min and a mill when you leave California. The weld doesn't look so much like a weld as it does a part left unmilled from making the ejector, then again even when you take it apart its hard to see in there with out removing the ejector. It is 1/8" thick x 1/4" long x 3/16 wide in a D shape.

Spica
02-20-2006, 6:34 PM
Called DSA and was told they 'can't tell' how they fix their FAL mags:rolleyes: . Also was told they won't convert the rifle to free status if one moves to America. "Once a Cali-rile, always a Cali-rifle" they said. How positively lovely:p .

So for those of you with DSA rifles...how are the mags fixed? Is it a weld-up job? Or is it a preferably CA-compliant 'tool necessary' removal which would allow one to enjoy the life of an American should you go to Nevada for a weekend before returning to our socialist prison camp workers' paradise.

That is the same answer DSA gave me when I called last year, it pretty much desuade me from purchasing one of their Cali-Fals.

As suggested, you would have to build your own rifle in order to have the option of converting it between the Caliban version and the free state version.

The question is where to get the receiver. Imbels have pretty much dried up, you can get them from DSA or wait for No Dakspud to start their production. Of course, there's Enterprise but you may want to think about it.

Judging from your other post, I would guess that you are in a quest for a semi-auto .308 rifle :D I hope you like company.:)

caduckgunner
02-20-2006, 7:36 PM
Sorry for the highjack........ How are the Vulcan receivers? They are still pretty cheap.

-hanko
02-20-2006, 8:39 PM
Sorry for the highjack........ How are the Vulcan receivers? They are still pretty cheap.
Some people have build good running guns with Vulcan/Hesse receivers; most of what you hear about on the net concerns mis-machined recievers with casting voids and/or generally crappy finish. Be aware that if you have a problem, customer service is nonexistent. I wouldn't have one, and I wouldn't build a gun with a customer's Vulcan/Hesse receiver. They are cheap, plus they're not worth it.:D

-hanko

TonyNorCal
02-20-2006, 8:55 PM
After my own post about Vulcan/Hesse receivers availability I decided against purchasing one myself. Seems peoples' experiences with them are a mixed bag...I just don't wish to risk with it and deal with sending something back. Although, I know for some they work fine. Furhermore, my rationale went like this...

I can buy a Hesse receiver and hope it works...and if it does I have a fixed mag .308 that requires breaking open to load (for the time being anyway).

Or I can get a FAL which loads easily from the top SKS style. In my mind a fixed mag break-open-to-load rifle is not satisfactory as a SHTF gun. While a fixed mag load from the top FAL is.

Or, I can get an M1A/M14....which as we know is legal here provided you take off the scary flashider.

I didn't price out the full cost of an AR-10 built on a stripped Hesse...but I imagine it's competitive with the other two...and IMHO the latter two are better choices for me.

podobo
02-20-2006, 10:41 PM
The only reason I went with the DSA FAL was I know I am leaving the state in a few years and have access to a mill. If I was going to stay here and only have one .308, I'd go SOCOM II, but like any of us can stop with only one, buy both. The DSA is a very well crafted rifle but I hated the stripper clips and wanted to use some optics so I load through the scope mount opening, sux but not hard even with gloves on.

shopkeep
02-21-2006, 10:41 AM
OK first off the Springfield Armory SOCOM rifles ROCK!

Mugwump
02-21-2006, 10:53 AM
Is this weld clearly visible? If so, where is it?

StanOwen
02-21-2006, 1:14 PM
Is this weld clearly visible? If so, where is it?

its a small glob on the ejector

Mugwump
02-21-2006, 5:12 PM
I'm not in front of my FAL right now, but I will be later. Where should I look on the ejector? Is it clearly visible from the top, or do I need to remove something to see? Does this weld completely prevent the magazine from being removed in a free state? Any pictures of this weld? Is this only on rifles built in the DSA factory for Cali-FALs, or does it also apply to bare receivers shipped here, even though they may be build without a pistol grip so the magazine can be removed?

hiyabrad
02-22-2006, 9:33 PM
Nice work guys, are we sure it can be deconstructed to accept mags?

podobo
02-23-2006, 7:41 AM
It only applys to complete recent rifles from DSA not the receivers.

hiyabrad
02-23-2006, 3:29 PM
How does a weld on the ejector prevent the magazine from coming out of the receiver?

One would assume that the ejector's job is to kick the spent case out so the next round can be stripped off the mag.

Thanks!

podobo
02-23-2006, 5:17 PM
It stops the mag release lever from moving.

hiyabrad
02-23-2006, 9:57 PM
Is the ejector a part of the receiver? Or is it a part, and it's welded to the receiver. Sorry for the newbie questions, but I'm a newbie.

Any posted pics would be greatly apprecaited.

hiyabrad
03-03-2006, 11:27 PM
Does anyone have a pic to post of the weld?