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EBWhite
02-16-2006, 10:47 AM
I heard it was around 1992, I am not sure though.

When did california start registering handguns in people's names?

Before that, was it similar to long guns as they are not in anyones name?

Thanks
ebWhite

bwiese
02-16-2006, 10:55 AM
If you bought a handgun at a gunshop, it's been "papered" in your name, waiting period, etc., for ages. The actual DROS stuff for handguns was, I believe, in very early 80s. Rifles had no waiting period and just a 4473 (there was a record, if the gun shop was visited, since he has to retain his 4473s until he goes out of business - upon which he sends 4473s to Maryland repository),

Up to and until Dec 31, 1990, paper-free private party firearms sales were perfectly legal as long as both parties were elgible to possess firearms (i.e., not a felon, etc.)

But Jan 1, 1991 was when ALL firearm sales in CA had to go thru an FFL dealer - regardless of being purchased from a dealer, or transferred from another party.

Rumpled
02-16-2006, 11:06 AM
I don't know where to find it on DOJ website (maybe search site for DROS? or it might be buried in the PC?)
but, according to an earlier reply I gave

According to CRPA, pistols had to be DROS's for dealer sales starting in 1954.
Private party sales of handguns didn't need DROS until 1991.

Bill,
Also remember the odd circumstance that PPT of a longgun 50+ years old does not need a dealer.

ArmedBear
02-16-2006, 11:13 AM
If you bought a handgun at a gunshop, it's been "papered" in your name, waiting period, etc., for ages. The actual DROS stuff for handguns was, I believe, in very early 80s. Rifles had no waiting period and just a 4473 (there was a record, if the gun shop was visited, since he has to retain his 4473s until he goes out of business - upon which he sends 4473s to Maryland repository),


How long do they keep the records?

xenophobe
02-16-2006, 11:16 AM
How long do they keep the records?

How long does the state keep the records? Forever.

shopkeep
02-16-2006, 11:20 AM
Don't forget that C&R cash and carry went on well into the 1990s. I remember being at a gun show with a buddy of mine and handing a guy $500 for two Springfield M1903 rifles. As you can tell, that was quite some time ago... $250 for an M1903 would be the deal of a lifetime now LOL, back then it was just the going price :).

Rumpled
02-16-2006, 12:43 PM
Shopkeep
You can still do that today (just not for $250)

EOD Guy
02-17-2006, 7:34 AM
Shopkeep
You can still do that today (just not for $250)

Yes, but not from a dealer, only private party. That changed with the Brady law.

Rumpled
02-17-2006, 7:58 AM
EODGuy,
Based upon the "at a gun show" and "handed a guy $500"; I assumed it was PPT. I might be wrong.
But, as many of us know; with a C&R and COE you can walk right out from a dealer after DROS'ing a C&R gun with the merchandise. It's a good feeling.