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vantec08
03-31-2010, 6:33 AM
http://biggovernment.com/tlee/2010/03/30/the-ominous-s-word-secession/#more-98462

this would certainly include the 2nd amendment. Interesting take.

hill billy
03-31-2010, 7:08 AM
That's a fairly well written article. I like it.

liketoshoot
03-31-2010, 7:26 AM
me agree, something is going to happen, what I do not know but this makes a lot of sense.

a1c
03-31-2010, 7:32 AM
Never going to happen. All this is premised on the ideological fault between liberal and conservatives? The author forgot to take a look at some other countries where the fracture is even deeper, and where the left is even more radical, and downright socialist or marxist. Yet those countries haven't imploded.

ocspeedracer
03-31-2010, 7:34 AM
I am all for that...we get the West coast though, we'll just call CA West Arizona.

hill billy
03-31-2010, 7:36 AM
Never going to happen. All this is premised on the ideological fault between liberal and conservatives? The author forgot to take a look at some other countries where the fracture is even deeper, and where the left is even more radical, and downright socialist or marxist. Yet those countries haven't imploded.

How many of those countries have as many guns in the hands of free men as there are inhabitants in them?

KALIDAWG8996
03-31-2010, 7:42 AM
It's a good article but, I think its a bit extreme though. Very biased.

a1c
03-31-2010, 7:43 AM
How many of those countries have as many guns in the hands of free men as their are inhabitants in them?

Like that's going to make a difference. :rolleyes:

Most people - and that includes gun owners - are lazy. As long as the police is not coming to each door and searching their houses and taking away their families or livelihood, they'll just endure the hard times. It happened before.

I know the theme of rebellion against the government is popular in some circles (again) lately, but it's just pure fantasy on the part of some fringe and angry citizens.

Some liberals said they would move to Canada if Bush got reelected. I don't think there is a single documented case of one who did that. Some conservatives said they would move out of the country if the healthcare reform went through - I'm willing to bet none of them will.

bigmike82
03-31-2010, 7:46 AM
Utter nonsense.

If the left wins, America looses?

The same can be said of a certain large portion of the right. The neo-conservative/Christian fundamentalist right is just as anti-American-values as the uber liberal left.

Knowing that a large part of the GOP is pro-big government, how can the author, with any creduality, say it's the left versus America?

Stealth
03-31-2010, 7:48 AM
I like the term "non-violent" civil war.

We see it in the flip-flop of control of congress/presidency. This fall could see a backlash against anything "democrat" by voting for the non-democrat to gain office.

Governments are like school bullies. You pay them some of your milk money for protection against other bullies. They establish what the law of the land is and they enforce it.

Eventually a day comes though when a bully pushes too hard and enough rise up to put down that bully to put a new one in power and the cycle begins again.

The question is never the process of a bully being changed but how. Hopefully a non-violent approach can be reached.

hill billy
03-31-2010, 7:49 AM
I hope there is a backlash against anyone pro tax and anti freedom, not simply those with a D by their name. Meg Whitman is awful

KALIDAWG8996
03-31-2010, 7:55 AM
completely biased article.

hill billy
03-31-2010, 7:57 AM
Ever see one that wasn't?

JDoe
03-31-2010, 8:11 AM
...the theme of rebellion against the government is popular in some circles (again) lately, but it's just pure fantasy on the part of some fringe and angry citizens...

Exactly!

And people should pay particular attention to the word "again" as it is used by a1c.