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cruddymutt
03-27-2010, 8:58 PM
I have a bcd4 on the way for my LSR build. It has a hardwood walnut stock with flat buttplate, pretty sure thats wrong for a bcd4. Also it has milled barrel bands, not sure on those. Is there a good website that details whats correct for each year/maker? I found one but it didnt tell much except that the bcd4 did not have the Kreigsmodell stock but that was it.
I need to just break down and get the backbone book but $60 is steep when I only have 2 k98s and dont plan on getting many more.

Milsurp Collector
03-27-2010, 11:26 PM
I have a bcd4 on the way for my LSR build. It has a hardwood walnut stock with flat buttplate, pretty sure thats wrong for a bcd4. Also it has milled barrel bands, not sure on those. Is there a good website that details whats correct for each year/maker? I found one but it didnt tell much except that the bcd4 did not have the Kreigsmodell stock but that was it.
I need to just break down and get the backbone book but $60 is steep when I only have 2 k98s and dont plan on getting many more.

Is there a good website that details what's correct correct for each year/maker? No.

Here's what is available: some limited and outdated information at http://www.ycgg.org/pdfpages/ww2/gustloff.pdf

More useful for you is a bcd4/bcd45 serial number study at http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=7221

Backbone of the Wehrmacht, while still a good general K98k book, is old and has become outdated as new information was gathered after it was revised in 1993. It has been completely surpassed by a new book Kreigsmodell (http://kriegsmodell.com/). I strongly recommend that you buy that book before pouring money into your project. There are wonderful color pictures of several Gustloff Werke LSR sniper rifles. Did you know the Gustloff LSR rifles had special "thick sidewall" receivers to allow milling a flat area to mount the scope base? Kreigsmodell (http://kriegsmodell.com/) has closeup pictures of the thick sidewall receiver with and without the scope base mounted.

It is difficult to give simple answers for what is "period correct" for late-war Gustloff Werke rifles because they repeated the serial number sequence, resulting in duplicate numbers. They also continued to use bcd 4 marked receivers during 1945 production. So rifles with close serial numbers could have been made at widely different times, and so have very different fittings, metal finishes, and stocks. A walnut stock with a flat buttplate is definitely wrong. You need a laminated stock, cupped buttplate, standard configuration (bolt takedown disk fitted, drilled for cleaning rod) with stamped/welded bands, and a stamped triggerguard.

But get that book, it really is worth it!

cruddymutt
03-27-2010, 11:40 PM
I saw that book on ebay, I will go back and look closer. Thanks for the info. I need to find a stock!! Walnut stocks were in the 30s werent they?

Milsurp Collector
03-28-2010, 12:22 AM
I saw that book on ebay, I will go back and look closer. Thanks for the info. I need to find a stock!! Walnut stocks were in the 30s werent they?

You can order the Kriegsmodell book directly from the authors at that link I posted http://kriegsmodell.com/

Walnut stocks were used mostly in the first few years of production (1934-38) although it was used from time in later years if supplies became available.

Milsurp Collector
03-30-2010, 12:04 PM
By the way, someone is selling a Russian Capture bcd 4 with the thick sidewall receiver on Gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=161781812

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/milsurp_collector/bcd%204%20LSR/b6fbda2d.jpg
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/milsurp_collector/bcd%204%20LSR/32fd97aa.jpg
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/milsurp_collector/bcd%204%20LSR/d2c9601f.jpg
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/milsurp_collector/bcd%204%20LSR/bf33d1e7.jpg

timdps
03-30-2010, 12:28 PM
So is that a record price for an RC?.....

tim

Milsurp Collector
03-30-2010, 1:06 PM
So is that a record price for an RC?.....

tim

I think his required minimum bid ($1500) is optimistic. It has been up for 10 days with less than 24 hours to go and no takers so far. $1500 is a lot for essentially a barreled receiver. To make it into a correct repro sniper you would have to replace just about everything on the rifle including the stock, and then still have to get the mount and optics. A lot of work and money, and you'll still have a non-matching K98k sniper, probably with a repro mount and optics. For that amount of money you could get a nice legit matching K98k. I think if you are going to make a repro sniper you should do it as cheaply as possible. It would be nice to run across an thick sidewall RC like this at a gun show and get it for a normal RC price.

cruddymutt
03-30-2010, 5:14 PM
That rifle has been on there for months.

Jarhead
03-30-2010, 6:33 PM
http://www.k98k.com/index.html

http://www.thuringenmilitaria.com/optics.html

http://www.collectorgrade.com/bookshelf1.html