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Jeffu
03-27-2010, 3:35 AM
Ever since my arrest from last April, it's been a nightmare. From going with the wrong law firm, uneducated/uninformed attorney disregarding all evidence and previous court cases and suggesting me to plead guilty to something that I did NOT do, giving my DNA sample, going to life lesson classes, to surrendering my gun rights...Until about a month ago, I was really fed up, fired my attorney and contacted CGF, Kevin (Oaklander) who referred me to attorney Jason Davis (http://www.calgunlawyers.com/Davis_&_Associates/Jason_Davis.html).

I finally got a chance to meet up with him this Wednesday and all it took was 1 phone call from Jason to the police department, that same night the detective called back and told me I was all good to go and I could pick up my firearm that they confiscated and refused to return just a month ago. All I can say is wow!!! Jason did what my attorney couldn't do for a year in 1 phone call.

Guys, if you ever run into ANY trouble at all, contact CGF & Jason immediately. Don't even bother trying to save a few bucks and going with amateurs, because in the end it'll come back and bite you in the ***. Which I learned the hard way.

I'd like to thank you CGF & Kevin & Jason for helping an innocent, responsible and law-abiding citizen retain his rights! Now it's my turn to payback CGF and help out the next victim.

SJgunguy24
03-27-2010, 3:44 AM
This is a lesson that everybody should learn. Lawyers are specialists and especially when dealing with firearms. Make sure you get the right guy for the job.

CaliforniaCarry
03-27-2010, 4:15 AM
Awesome :thumbsup:

Zhukov
03-27-2010, 4:23 AM
Would you be willing to post the name/information of the attorney we should *not* be going with?

If you're worried about anything, you could PM me and keep it out of the public.

SJgunguy24
03-27-2010, 4:41 AM
Would you be willing to post the name/information of the attorney we should *not* be going with?

If you're worried about anything, you could PM me and keep it out of the public.

I'll give you a hint........(whispering) Any lawyer who isn't one of the CGN lawyers.

PowderBurn1
03-27-2010, 6:28 AM
I put CGF info in my range bag along with my cell phone and my personal phone book at my house. Because you never now what might happen.

Jeffu,
Congrats on getting your gun back.
Cheers,

B Strong
03-27-2010, 7:31 AM
There is no substitute for an Attorney that is well informed and experienced in your particular type of case.

Jason Davis seems to be just that Attorney when it comes to firearms cases in California.

Good job Mr. Davis.

hoffmang
03-27-2010, 10:06 AM
Please remember that freedom isn't free. Donate here (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/donate).

In this case we wish that this person would have called us first so the first bit of nastiness didn't even happen. As long as you are innocent of the gun charge and whatever caused you to be in contact with law enforcement is minor, we can almost always help.

We have quite a few more stories just like this about ready for public consumption.

-Gene

WokMaster1
03-27-2010, 12:08 PM
Jeff, what about your record?

Jeffu
03-27-2010, 12:13 PM
No record :)

anthonyca
03-27-2010, 12:29 PM
It is sad that most attorneys that a working man can get to return his phone calls are just plea deal makers. Even if you are innocent, most say just plead to this "minor charge". There are NO minor charges anymore. I am in the commercial air conditioning business and if you even have an arrest with no conviction you will be denied a badge or access to many high security sites and some seemingly low security sites. ANY plea will fallow you FOREVER! expungement will not help, they will find out about the arrest. I have seen this many times.

Thank you calguns and the lawfirms that are fighting these injustices.

HowardW56
03-27-2010, 12:41 PM
It is sad that most attorneys that a working man can get to return his phone calls are just plea deal makers. Even if you are innocent, most say just plead to this "minor charge". There are NO minor charges anymore. I am in the commercial air conditioning business and if you even have an arrest with no conviction you will be denied a badge or access to many high security sites and some seemingly low security sites. ANY plea will fallow you FOREVER! expungement will not help, they will find out about the arrest. I have seen this many times.

Thank you calguns and the lawfirms that are fighting these injustices.

This is so true... I have done work in several secure locations/facilities... One general contractor was not able to use a project superintendent that had a 20-year-old felony (that today would be a slap on the wrist/rehab/dismissal today). The conviction denied him access to the facility...

Lateralus
03-27-2010, 1:05 PM
That is great news friend! Congratulations!

E Pluribus Unum
03-27-2010, 1:27 PM
Please remember that freedom isn't free. Donate here (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/donate).

In this case we wish that this person would have called us first so the first bit of nastiness didn't even happen. As long as you are innocent of the gun charge and whatever caused you to be in contact with law enforcement is minor, we can almost always help.

We have quite a few more stories just like this about ready for public consumption.

-Gene

So... no open-carrying drug dealer... :)

hoffmang
03-27-2010, 1:53 PM
So... no open-carrying drug dealer... :)

Correct.

Things we've been willing to tolerate (not an exhaustive list):
Accidental ND.
Right turn from center turn lane.
No front license plate.
Cracked windshield.
LEO chased bad guy into gunowners yard.
Welfare checks.
Unstable roommate.

This also serves as a nice list of things to keep an eye on to not have interactions with LEOs.

-Gene

bwiese
03-27-2010, 2:14 PM
Adding to what Gene says above - and enough time has elapsed such that the individual will not be identified from this - is if CGF rejects a non-open carry case (i.e, OLL vs AW, magazine, etc.) it often is due to "color".

We had an incident back last year where an individual was rolling with an OLL that was OK - but there were other unfortunate circumstances regarding other items in the vehicle and also with one of the passengers. The color was less of intent than incompetence combined with "bad friend selection".

The matter happily seemed to go away, certainly with the OLL (and CGF would offer assistance on the legit OLL rifle matters) -- but the defendant excoriated us to his friends, asserting 100% legality, while not mentioning the other troublesome "color"/conduct/background. Friends took him at face value and sent nastygrams to us; they tried to make CGF look like we backed off for whatever other reason (i.e., timidity or incompetence) other than orig. defendant's own issues, and spread falsehoods about CGF.

So please keep in mind that there can be "background" in such cases, and "friends of the defendant" may not have complete info even though they're bashing CGF. And we really don't want to hurt somebody by revealing case details (even though they're often public record).

97F1504RAD
03-27-2010, 2:26 PM
Glad to hear they got things worked out for you.

ledman
03-27-2010, 3:34 PM
I am little lost...what happened to Jeffu? Why were you areested and what were the charges? If you can share that, if not, that is cool.
I am glad you got your name cleared!

Jpach
03-27-2010, 3:40 PM
Jeffu, glad to hear things are good now. And glad to know you now know who the CGF is :p

Jeffu
03-27-2010, 3:41 PM
No problem, I was arrested for loaded firearm in public even though it wasn't, and it was locked in a box and locked again in the trunk of my car.

hoffmang
03-27-2010, 4:09 PM
No problem, I was arrested for loaded firearm in public even though it wasn't, and it was locked in a box and locked again in the trunk of my car.

And in this case I think I can independently confirm Jeff's statement. The saddest part is that Jeff gave his first lawyer a copy of People v. Clark with which Jeff had perfectly complied....

-Gene

SteveH
03-27-2010, 4:20 PM
And in this case I think I can independently confirm Jeff's statement. The saddest part is that Jeff gave his first lawyer a copy of People v. Clark with which Jeff had perfectly complied....

-Gene

Was this a side saddle or butstock mag carrier issue? Or loaded mags in the same case as a loaded handgun?

Sad the cops dont know the law.

Sobriquet
03-27-2010, 5:19 PM
And in this case I think I can independently confirm Jeff's statement. The saddest part is that Jeff gave his first lawyer a copy of People v. Clark with which Jeff had perfectly complied....

-Gene

I'm guessing this guy wasn't AV rated. lol. Glad things worked out for you, Jeff.

Cali-V
03-27-2010, 5:41 PM
Correct.

Things we've been willing to tolerate (not an exhaustive list):
Accidental ND.
Right turn from center turn lane.
No front license plate.
Cracked windshield.
LEO chased bad guy into gunowners yard.
Welfare checks
Unstable roommate.

This also serves as a nice list of things to keep an eye on to not have interactions with LEOs.

-Gene

I usually take cash...
Damn you guys are alright...

Lone_Gunman
03-27-2010, 8:33 PM
Was this the one where they busted the guy for a loaded weapon because he was transporting it with a snap cap in the chamber?

hoffmang
03-27-2010, 8:42 PM
Was this the one where they busted the guy for a loaded weapon because he was transporting it with a snap cap in the chamber?

Nah. This firearm was completely unloaded and in a couple of locked containers... Not even a question that it was legal.

-Gene

Lone_Gunman
03-27-2010, 8:56 PM
Wow. Just wow. WTF is wrong with the system?

rkt88edmo
03-27-2010, 9:17 PM
Thank you JeffU for contacting CGF, I am glad this turned out better than where it was heading.

Don't take chances folks, the CGF is here for all of us if LEO get involved.

mecam
03-27-2010, 9:54 PM
No problem, I was arrested for loaded firearm in public even though it wasn't, and it was locked in a box and locked again in the trunk of my car.

What made them think it was loaded? Did you have loaded mags? I stopped transporting loaded mags, even though it's legal, just to avoid crap like this. I'm glad you got your name cleared. Kudos to CGF & lawyers.

romeomikelima
03-27-2010, 10:03 PM
*****

xxsleepyxx
03-27-2010, 10:03 PM
Plus, makes me wonder what gave the cops a reason to search? I know details are intrusive so only if one feels comfortable. It would help us however.

cntrolsguy
03-27-2010, 10:18 PM
Freakin ROCK ON Dude! CGF Rocks!!! That is great news!

tenlongdays
03-27-2010, 10:46 PM
The "problem" was 1 round in the Sunset Insert (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=22951/Product/SUNSET_INSERT_for_GLOCK_reg_). Not considered "loaded" because the round is not in a position to fire, so no crime was committed under the Clark standard.

These threads contain some background information on the case:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=178661
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=229058
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=103660

Turbinator
03-28-2010, 12:42 AM
Jeffu, great to hear that all's well.

Now, kindly resume posting your photography work. :)

Turby

Jeffu
03-28-2010, 1:16 AM
Jeffu, great to hear that all's well.

Now, kindly resume posting your photography work. :)

Turby

Thanks Turby, I'm preparing a surprise for calguns, just give me sometime as it's a lot of work =p

2Bear
03-28-2010, 7:22 AM
No front license plate.
Cracked windshield.


I'm always dumbfounded at the number of people who allow these conditions to exist.

Just a decal on the wrong area of the windshield will get ya...

evidens83
03-28-2010, 9:19 AM
Glad everything went positive! CGF rocks!

oaklander
03-28-2010, 11:45 AM
I am glad things worked out! Jason is awesome!

One of the reasons that we ask people to contact CGF is because we know the right attorneys to put on a given case.

:)

nick
03-28-2010, 12:03 PM
I'm always dumbfounded at the number of people who allow these conditions to exist.

Just a decal on the wrong area of the windshield will get ya...

I'm always dumbfounded that these things (and many others) are even considered to be public offenses, much less punishable ones.

KylaGWolf
03-28-2010, 6:50 PM
Jeffu congratulations on the case turning out well.

It goes to show yet again that CGF does a lot of great work. Also has a lot of great lawyers willing to do the right thing when things go wrong for someone that shouldn't be going through the system.

While right now I cannot afford to donate any cash to CGF I will donate my time to help them out as much as I can. Hopefully soon I will be working again and can afford to help them out with money.

Kerplow
03-28-2010, 7:53 PM
man, i wish i knew about CGF about 9 years ago when my friend had all his guns taken. i believe the seizure was legal but several guns were not on evidence receipts. 50k collection gone.... one lawyer told him to "get off that tangent" in regards to getting his guns at least to an FFL, and the other supposedly got them to an FFL but he was never able to gain contact with said FFL. i dont know exactly what happened, but i'm sure it would have been better if CGF was involved.

beerup949
03-28-2010, 7:56 PM
What a weight off your shoulders....Congrats man!


Thanks CGF

IGOTDIRT4U
03-29-2010, 8:49 AM
Jeffu, congrats on a change for the better in your case.

That said, I hope you no longer speak to the friend that got you into this mess to begin with...

thrillhouse700
03-29-2010, 9:46 AM
wow this story is both ridiculous and awesome due to the outcome. How come no LEOs ever comment on these threads? I kind of really want to know what goes through the minds of the LEO that aren't on Calguns. Its sad I know a lot of people like myself who give LEO all the respect in the world but still get hassled. :(

Either way glad everything turned out for you!!!

Vtec44
03-29-2010, 11:01 AM
Wow, awesome story. I'm so grateful that law abiding gun owners have Calguns Foundation on our side. I'll donate for the cause on my next pay day. :D

ZepoL
03-29-2010, 6:46 PM
A job well done by everyone.

hoffmang
03-30-2010, 9:02 PM
How come no LEOs ever comment on these threads?

In fact one or two LEOs did comment in this thread in ways that are as shocked as everyone else is, but it's not my place to out them (even though they've not been reticent to mention that they are LE.)

-Gene