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247Nino
03-25-2010, 8:27 AM
Here is my conversion, I did the work since it was pretty easy
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/479/nin7994.jpg
UTG butt pad
K-Var warsaw pact length black stock
TAC-47 Trigger Guard
Tapco G2 Single Hook
I reused the FCG spring since Im a cheap ***, after 200 rnds on tuesday at SVRGC the spring did not show any movement and held the pins in place.

I chose to try the light loads for break-in even though others say break in with heavy loads... I checked my gas ports and found 3 unobstructed ports; good to go there. Didn't polish the contact points on the FCG, its a shotgun not a precision rifle. I did lube the rails and extractor with some CLP...

I alternated mags of 10 rds from each type of ammo found at walmart. The winchester is weak as hell and the hulls crush upon extraction. The federals stink like hell but hold their shape and showed signs of cycling as soon as i hit around 70-80...
THE FIRST 150 FAILED TO EXTRACT and every one after that cycled just fine! It was a great feeling because I was getting frustrated manually cycling the gun. Its broken in now, nothing heavier that 7.5 birdshot used.

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Gio
03-25-2010, 8:40 AM
Nice Nino, when do I get a chance to try it out?

-Gio

247Nino
03-25-2010, 8:52 AM
Nice Nino, when do I get a chance to try it out?

-Gio

haha today if you want to hit up Target Masters at 130

Q
03-25-2010, 10:23 PM
Nice. I just took my S12 to the range earlier this month with centurion multi shot. It's a fun shotgun, I'm gonna shoot this thing more often..:cool:

247Nino
05-03-2010, 1:31 PM
updated pics
with the new Horn's Custom mag lock from Arms of America

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7163/img0036hl.jpg http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2345/img0032s.jpg

novabrian
05-03-2010, 1:48 PM
Nice.I'm going to get that butt pad.The stock seems small and uncomfortable to shoulder.

nrakid88
05-03-2010, 3:48 PM
Were you shooting with the gas on or off with the birdshot?

hellraiser
05-03-2010, 4:23 PM
Were you shooting with the gas on or off with the birdshot?

you mean with the gas plug removed or not? theres a high and low setting but not a on or off?

haha today if you want to hit up Target Masters at 130

hey target masters let you shoot it? last i heard they werent "maglock" friendly.... but that was some time ago.

247Nino
05-04-2010, 7:10 AM
Were you shooting with the gas on or off with the birdshot?I closed down the adjustment all the way and then opened it up to setting #2


hey target masters let you shoot it? last i heard they werent "maglock" friendly.... but that was some time ago.
I shot it there, it was busy that day, I checked in and only showed them my ammo. No one looked at me or my lane the whole time I shot, the thing is to be low key. Some of the employees there arent too sharp and I got in with slugs one time and they got all mad when they could hear extra loud bangs. They tried to kick me out and then I did a 4 round burst with my MPA930 and no one paid any attention. So they're a little strange. Another time I brought my AR pistol with a 22lr conversion and they didnt even know what an "AR pistol" was so I said 22 Pistol.

thrillhouse700
05-05-2010, 12:18 AM
May I ask how much and where you got it from? I want one soo bad.

kemper
05-06-2010, 10:37 PM
I shot it there, it was busy that day, I checked in and only showed them my ammo. No one looked at me or my lane the whole time I shot, the thing is to be low key. Some of the employees there arent too sharp and I got in with slugs one time and they got all mad when they could hear extra loud bangs. They tried to kick me out and then I did a 4 round burst with my MPA930 and no one paid any attention. So they're a little strange. Another time I brought my AR pistol with a 22lr conversion and they didnt even know what an "AR pistol" was so I said 22 Pistol.

too many rules at that place.....they came and gave me a warning for rapid firing my pump shotty :confused::confused:

247Nino
05-08-2010, 12:29 AM
May I ask how much and where you got it from? I want one soo bad.
Well the basic conversion was the stock, fcg, pistol grip and mags. Those can be had for around $150
The gun itself was $600 after ffl transfer.
so it all depends on where you go and what parts you buy.


too many rules at that place.....they came and gave me a warning for rapid firing my pump shotty :confused::confused:
I agree, they is crazys

Z ME FLY
05-08-2010, 2:07 AM
Conversion looks good! S12 is on my list but have too many irons in the fire right now..



too many rules at that place.....they came and gave me a warning for rapid firing my pump shotty :confused::confused:

I remember when I was shooting my old Glock G29. 1 shot every 2 seconds, got 2 warnings then they said they were going to kick me out LOL I just rapid fired my whole mag and said ok, I'm done anyways :)

Funny because the RO said I was shooting darn good but yet they didn't want me to rapid fire because they were scared I couldn't hit the target? I don't miss Targetmasters too much... Especially the part when people load the rounds backwards in the mag and don't know why it won't load? So they have the mag in the gun and point it at themselves looking down the barrel.... yeah... smart...

247Nino
05-21-2010, 10:53 AM
I put some Lowes nylon hole plugs a while back, I actually drilled into my KVar stock and that way they fit really snug. They look nice and have to be destroyed to be removed.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1247/nin9451.jpg

247Nino
07-15-2010, 8:43 AM
Added RVG, Bolt Handle, Light Recoil Spring and Phantom.

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Gio
07-15-2010, 8:54 AM
Dang dude! Looks awesome!

NewFrontierArmory
07-19-2010, 11:12 PM
May I ask how much and where you got it from? I want one soo bad.

We have them on sale for $475 right now.

247Nino
07-21-2010, 6:57 AM
We have them on sale for $475 right now.

Mine came from Adam at Peach State, $489 with PRK mag lock,

adam12
07-22-2010, 5:33 AM
Right now I have OC armory magazine locks and that is what I am installing and this price is shipped.
Adam

kroniclove
07-23-2010, 12:25 AM
dang that is nice...

247Nino
12-10-2010, 2:28 PM
ultimate new accessory
http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/photos/1121780179_j5Htd-O.jpg

Gio
12-10-2010, 6:15 PM
Nice hat ;) Hit me up sometime Nino, I want to take my Tantal out again :)

The Sauce
12-13-2010, 8:51 AM
Nice hat! NOW i'm a little jealous.

247Nino
12-16-2010, 8:10 PM
oh ****, its a party... the Communist Party !


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KCDS
12-16-2010, 11:57 PM
Nice looking saiga,gj:clap:
Where you get the T-shirt from? It looks awesome

247Nino
12-17-2010, 1:42 AM
Nice looking saiga,gj:clap:
Where you get the T-shirt from? It looks awesome
Thank you!

get the shirts here
http://www.threadless.com/product/383/The_Communist_Party

SJgunguy24
12-17-2010, 3:15 AM
Nino, you might want to take a few of those pics down and do a little work on your shotgun.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine

iBkickinit
12-17-2010, 7:43 PM
Nino, you might want to take a few of those pics down and do a little work on your shotgun.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine


He doesn't have a folding or telescoping stock. As long as the stock is fixed, you are GTG :thumbsup:

mikemaccham
12-20-2010, 4:30 PM
So you can't have that gun with a colapsible stock?..nevermind I just read the law..
How do you like that bullet button? Looks interesting.

247Nino
12-21-2010, 7:08 AM
So you can't have that gun with a colapsible stock?..nevermind I just read the law..
How do you like that bullet button? Looks interesting.

I HATE ALL BULLET BUTTONS, except the part where they make it possible for me to own "evil" things in CA.

In short, its a maglock, it slows me down and makes me want to move out of CA. If I ever though of using a maglocked gun for self defense I'd hope all my attackers would stand in ranks so that I could use my 10 rds/shells without worrying about a reload.

247Nino
04-13-2011, 4:19 AM
Nino, you might want to take a few of those pics down and do a little work on your shotgun.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine

you have to have both (6)(A) and (6)(B)to make an AW
Pics are coming back up... soon...

I got tired of that RVG that I wasn't using so I decided to do some new work on my s12 .



http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/photos/1250574934_9ZK47-O.jpg

SJgunguy24
04-13-2011, 5:53 AM
you have to have both (6)(A) and (6)(B)to make an AW
Pics are coming back up... soon...

I got tired of that RVG that I wasn't using so I decided to do some new work on my s12 .



http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/photos/1250574934_9ZK47-O.jpg

JB weld or some other type of epoxy.....why:confused:
Your gonna need to unplug that hole behind the trigger.

247Nino
04-13-2011, 6:08 AM
JB weld or some other type of epoxy.....why:confused:
Your gonna need to unplug that hole behind the trigger.

JB weld? I could see that working. I used a MIG...

unplug? that hole? ;)

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/photos/1250651932_jYEG2-O.jpg

247Nino
04-13-2011, 6:20 AM
My absolute first time welding. Couldn't find any scraps to practice on either.

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/photos/1250662038_FSrLf-L.jpg

SJgunguy24
04-13-2011, 6:26 AM
My absolute first time welding. Couldn't find any scraps to practice on either.

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/photos/1250662038_FSrLf-L.jpg

I like to go from the inside out if I use the MIG, looks kinda dirty, was the gas at 17 CFH?

247Nino
04-13-2011, 6:31 AM
I like to go from the inside out if I use the MIG, looks kinda dirty, was the gas at 17 CFH?

around 15 ish...

that nasty residue was from the paint that I didn't really bother cleaning off from the inside.
I would have gone from the inside but I didn't think of it. I used copper on the back, no holes found after cleanup.

Zartan
04-14-2011, 9:45 PM
Eh, it'll be fine. Going to be ground away anyway.

247Nino
04-15-2011, 9:46 AM
Eh, it'll be fine. Going to be ground away anyway.

EXACTLY! :D

Ready for paint... prep it? maybe degrease... we'll see after this weekend. I'm picking up the rest of the conversion parts.

247Nino
04-19-2011, 8:40 PM
well here it is...

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/photos/1258658470_HhbdrDk-L.jpg

D53
04-19-2011, 8:44 PM
Looks pretty good. As soon as order the damn FCG I will start my conversion

Gio
04-19-2011, 8:46 PM
:drool5: Looking good Nino :)

247Nino
04-20-2011, 9:26 AM
thanks Gio!

Not bad for my first time welding.



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HatersLOVEme : )
04-21-2011, 11:19 AM
Nice !!!

RLTW
05-02-2011, 9:55 PM
Looks Great!! Very professional :punk:

dk94044
05-05-2011, 6:46 AM
anyone know how to keep the safety lever from making that paint scrape arc?

great job on the conversion. I have a Hogue grip rubber slip on and feels great if you like a meater grip option for cheap.

SJgunguy24
05-05-2011, 8:12 AM
anyone know how to keep the safety lever from making that paint scrape arc?

great job on the conversion. I have a Hogue grip rubber slip on and feels great if you like a meater grip option for cheap.

Not really, you might be able to grind the point on the selector a little but that's the nature of the platform.

xiongxtreme2382
05-06-2011, 4:16 PM
what paint did you use on saiga 12

247Nino
05-06-2011, 6:40 PM
what paint did you use on saiga 12


http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=27
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