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RomanDad
03-22-2010, 10:04 AM
http://www.occcws.com/?p=857




An open letter to Sheriff Hutchens

March 21, 2010 by OCCCWS Editor

Sheriff, concerned citizens would like to ask you a few questions:

1. Are members (or a member) of the SAFE Division (which you created), or any other OCSD division, under investigation for illegally using law enforcement and/or DMV databases to probe the histories and/or personal information of individuals not under criminal investigation, such as current or former love interests, or romantic rivals?

2. If this investigation is happening, have you kept it ‘in house’ by refusing to report the possible violation to the DMV or California Attorney General so that an independent investigation can be undertaken?

3. If this investigation is happening, have you notified the FBI and the Department of Justice as to the possible violations of 18 USC 2721, 2722, and 2723 so that they may begin an independent investigation?

4. If this investigation is happening, have you notified the individual or individuals whose confidential records were illegally obtained that they may seek relief against the county and responsible parties under 18 USC 2724?

5. If this investigation is happening, have you considered that the department members under scrutiny may have felt their actions were sanctioned considering your refusal to dismiss certain members of your command staff after the BOS ’spying’ incident?

6. If this investigation is happening, can you explain why, after your promise of transparency, you have not revealed this incident to the public through the media?

The citizens of Orange County eagerly await your response.

hoffmang
03-22-2010, 7:51 PM
:popcorn:

-Gene

RP1911
03-22-2010, 7:55 PM
Maybe the writer knows something.

Shotgun Man
03-22-2010, 7:59 PM
Maybe the writer knows something.

Yeah, what gave rise to this?

Redlinegts
03-22-2010, 8:02 PM
O.O whoa

:popcorn:

Fate
03-22-2010, 8:06 PM
:popcorn:

-Gene

You KNOW that when Gene posts that smiley, it's just got to be good! Hahaha.

CSDGuy
03-22-2010, 8:11 PM
It seems that OCCCWS posts stuff like this when they smell smoke... and are pretty sure there's fire nearby...

(Looking for my own popcorn...)

Interesting find, RD. I'm checking out that link right now...

vrand
03-22-2010, 8:20 PM
It seems that OCCCWS posts stuff like this when they smell smoke... and are pretty sure there's fire nearby...

(Looking for my own popcorn...)

Interesting find, RD. I'm checking out that link right now...

Bingo :tank:

OrangeCountyCCW
03-26-2010, 4:39 PM
Right on and BRAVO to those behind this. Thank you for your hard work and KEEP UP THE PRESSURE!

SteveH
03-26-2010, 4:43 PM
Is not SAFE supposed to be some sort of internal watchdog, policing the police so to speak? From speaking to OCSD employees there seems to be a universal hatred of SAFE. I've heard nicknames such as "the rat squad" and "Screw Another Fellow Employee"

How ironic if one of the SAFE employees is abusing CLETS.

The Director
03-26-2010, 4:44 PM
Somebody's in trouble!

truthseeker
03-26-2010, 4:47 PM
HEHE!

I love it!

:popcorn:

steadyrock
03-26-2010, 4:53 PM
I'm sure this has been sent to the appropriate people in the media, right?

Nice going. ;)

RomanDad
03-26-2010, 4:57 PM
Is not SAFE supposed to be some sort of internal watchdog, policing the police so to speak? From speaking to OCSD employees there seems to be a universal hatred of SAFE. I've heard nicknames such as "the rat squad" and "Screw Another Fellow Employee"

How ironic if one of the SAFE employees is abusing CLETS.
Yes... As I understand it, its supposed to bring "accountability" back to the Sheriffs dept.

demnogis
03-27-2010, 12:56 AM
Yes... As I understand it, its supposed to bring "accountability" back to the Sheriffs dept.
Nope, we can't have any of that! OCSD, what? Responsible for their actions? Naaaw...

obeygiant
03-27-2010, 10:27 PM
BTT for the night crew.

Digital_Boy
03-27-2010, 11:18 PM
Any public news stories that pertain to the back story that prompted this open letter?

Capt. Speirs
03-28-2010, 12:00 AM
:popcorn:

Really want Hutchens to eat crow.

Maestro Pistolero
03-28-2010, 10:02 AM
Could/should these questions be formatted in a FOA demand, or would it be premature?

jdberger
03-28-2010, 10:07 AM
army of davids.....

obeygiant
03-28-2010, 2:24 PM
army of davids.....

just give us a few minutes to gather up some smooth stones.

jdberger
03-29-2010, 9:54 AM
just give us a few minutes to gather up some smooth stones.

Right - ;)

When you say something like that, you usually call back in an hour asking where to park the 5 trucks..... :)

RomanDad
03-29-2010, 1:45 PM
Now on Orange Juice Blog...


http://orangejuiceblog.com/2010/03/hutchens-questioned-another-snooping-incident/comment-page-1/#comment-122309


Keep the pressure up.... Eventually the mainstream media will be FORCED to look into this.

SteveH
03-29-2010, 1:50 PM
Are you going to post details/and the player(s) or not?

ocspeedracer
03-29-2010, 2:04 PM
Oh this is great!

RomanDad
03-29-2010, 2:14 PM
The Sheriff (or her public relations person Jim Amorino)needs to fill in the details and the players. That's the point.

U2BassAce
03-29-2010, 7:25 PM
The Sheriff (or her public relations person Jim Amorino)needs to fill in the details and the players. That's the point.

Crickets................:p

SteveH
03-30-2010, 2:55 AM
The Sheriff (or her public relations person Jim Amorino)needs to fill in the details and the players. That's the point.

Doesnt state law -POBR prevent the OCSD admin from releasing diciplinary records?

RomanDad
03-30-2010, 7:06 AM
Doesnt state law -POBR prevent the OCSD admin from releasing diciplinary records?

Were not asking for DISCIPLINARY RECORDS... We're asking her to tell the victims and the applicable state and federal authorities, and to tell the public if their trust was abused. Its no different than holding a press conference about a shooting or physical abuse incident.

BroncoBob
03-30-2010, 7:14 AM
This is going to be of interest.....

yellowfin
03-30-2010, 8:52 AM
Once this is done, do the same for Laurie Smith.

hill billy
03-30-2010, 9:19 AM
Keeping an eye on this one.