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nicki
03-19-2010, 11:09 PM
We have attacks on our rights from both the left and the right.

I am going to request that all of us get away from attacking Liberals or so called right wing conservatives.

We are trying to outreach here in California and if we insult people, we turn them off.

So what do we call those who attack our rights, what is a Calguns safe term?

I propose calling our enemies "Nanny Authoritarian Statist. Doesn't matter if they are a nazi, fascist, socialist, communist or whatever.

If you are hostile to our personal rights, you obviously don't support the values espoused in the declaration of independence which IMHO makes someone an American in name only (AINO).

So let's call out our real enemies regardleess of which side of the political spectrum they hide on.

Many people who are liberals are so not because they are anti gun, but because the religious right keeps trying to stick government into people's private lives.

The bill of rights is a package deal.
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So our new nasty terms are AINO and Nanny Authoratarian Statist (NAS).

Nicki

POLICESTATE
03-19-2010, 11:10 PM
How about we call the NASies?

bigcalidave
03-19-2010, 11:14 PM
I was using words like ****es and ****s and ****** ******s....

But yeah, those are good.

However, name calling doesn't make progress !!

Silverback
03-20-2010, 4:07 AM
I am going to request that all of us get away from attacking Liberals or so called right wing conservatives.

We are trying to outreach here in California and if we insult people, we turn them off.


Wasn't there a Brit that tried something similar back in the 30s? What was that thing that happened not too long after? Oh yea, it was WW2.

jeffm223
03-20-2010, 9:18 AM
There is already a perfectly fitting word for them - traitors. We should start using it and let the cards fall where they may. You can't be liked by everyone.

YubaRiver
03-20-2010, 9:21 AM
"I am going to request that all of us get away from attacking Liberals or so called right wing conservatives.

We are trying to outreach here in California and if we insult people, we turn them off.


"Wasn't there a Brit that tried something similar back in the 30s? What was that thing that happened not too long after? Oh yea, it was WW2. "

Yup and that was after WWI, which was started by the opposite aproaches.

a1c
03-20-2010, 9:24 AM
I think it's a little simplistic to use a "us vs. them" strategy here. As you said, there are people from various sides of the political spectrum. I thought as far as the 2A, they were the "antis"?

N6ATF
03-20-2010, 9:43 AM
There is already a perfectly fitting word for them - traitors. We should start using it and let the cards fall where they may. You can't be liked by everyone.

+100

nn3453
03-20-2010, 10:20 AM
However, name calling doesn't make progress !!

^^

As satisfying as getting on a forum to rant is, it rarely achieves anything productive.

FK300
03-20-2010, 10:20 AM
There is already a perfectly fitting word for them - traitors. We should start using it and let the cards fall where they may. You can't be liked by everyone.

+100 for Traitors.

Libs(Traitors) should really look into having a glass belly button installed so when they have their head up their backside they can see what the rest of us are doing.

Anyone got a phone number to the parents of a Lib(Traitor)? Just incase I ever need the blueprints to build myself an a**hole?
:laugh:

Lone_Gunman
03-20-2010, 10:27 AM
I think that calling them Authoritarian Statists would be good. It is a true description of what they are. They are just hiding behind the label of Democrat or Republican or right winger or left winger Liberal or Conservative. If we begin actually naming what they are rather than the label they hide behind we shine light on the situation. A favorite rant of mine... "words mean things" lets use the correct words to describe them.



ETA: How about Authoritarian Statist Socialists ... the acronym would be appropriate.

Skipper
03-20-2010, 10:51 AM
Gentlemen, the word is


TREASON

nn3453
03-20-2010, 11:32 AM
Don't mean to start a flame war, but just wondering if this "traitor" includes the man who signed the "Patriot" Act into law?

We all agree that the libs are evil traitors, but why not spread some love to the other side too.

Again, don't see how this thread has anything to do with 2A rights. Belongs in off topic.

Pixs
03-20-2010, 11:36 AM
Hi Folks,

Thank you Nicki for your thoughtful and correct assessment of a problem that has been over looked by so many that are attached to specific ideologies to the point of ignoring the facts. The only term I can think of is: " misguided and uneducated people", similar to a lot of people that spout off incorrect historical "facts" here on this board. Prim Minister Nevil Chamberlain was well aware of the condition of the RAF and the French High Command and correctly read the intelligence that was gathered during the Spanish Civil War. Remember that British Intelligence was the best in the world at that time. He faced the hard reality of no will on the part of the MPs or French. Hind sight is usually 20/20 especially if you ignore the reality of the time.

About seeking allies, yes, excellent. The best way is to stop insulting people you disagree with. "Hay Jerk off butt hole come here and give me a hand, moron". I don't think that approach is going to help. I see a lot of misperceptions and generalizations being put forth from all sides. Best to show a little dignity when dealing with the opposition, don't lower yourself to their level or, maybe, rise to it depending on how you deal with others.

Best to all,

Pixs

Silverback
03-20-2010, 11:38 AM
Yup and that was after WWI, which was started by the opposite aproaches.

Yes - and that is why we shouldn't forget. In every war/scuffle there have been politicians who try to make deals for the masses and I'm sure, it makes sense to them at the time. Either approach only masks the situation and tries to make the situation palatable.

I'll settle for the term Traitor to describe the mass movement from the right or left that leaves the Constitution or Bill of Rights less than what the framers intended. However, when I hear the name BHO I will always think of a Violator of and Bastard among free men.

Nicki has a good point and I will try to control myself to accommodate the good cause. Verbal bickering usually solves nothing.

Mute
03-20-2010, 11:38 AM
I prefer anti-civil rights bigots.

N6ATF
03-20-2010, 11:46 AM
Don't mean to start a flame war, but just wondering if this "traitor" includes the man who signed the "Patriot" Act into law?

Damn skippy.

Lone_Gunman
03-20-2010, 12:02 PM
Don't mean to start a flame war, but just wondering if this "traitor" includes the man who signed the "Patriot" Act into law?

We all agree that the libs are evil traitors, but why not spread some love to the other side too.



Uh yeah. The whole point of the OP seems to be regardless of how they label themselves we need to call them what they really are. So why would we give one Athoritarian Statist a pass simply because he chooses to self identify as a member if a particular party.

Colt-45
03-20-2010, 12:07 PM
Instead of calling them liberals or democrats we can just call them socialists. Is that good enough?

blacksheep
03-20-2010, 1:14 PM
There is already a perfectly fitting word for them - traitors. We should start using it and let the cards fall where they may. You can't be liked by everyone.

I would like to add treasonist traitors.

Flopper
03-20-2010, 2:09 PM
I think that calling them Authoritarian Statists would be good. It is a true description of what they are. They are just hiding behind the label of Democrat or Republican or right winger or left winger Liberal or Conservative. If we begin actually naming what they are rather than the label they hide behind we shine light on the situation. A favorite rant of mine... "words mean things" lets use the correct words to describe them.



ETA: How about Authoritarian Statist Socialists ... the acronym would be appropriate.

I think your whole post is great--but the bolded part especially needed a bump!

quick draw mcgraw
03-20-2010, 2:56 PM
How about Mr/s Dooshabag

Meplat
03-20-2010, 3:24 PM
Of course it would have to include anyone wo would do that.


Don't mean to start a fla:pme war, but just wondering if this "traitor" includes the man who signed the "Patriot" Act into law?

We all agree that the libs are evil traitors, but why not spread some love to the other side too.

Again, don't see how this thread has anything to do with 2A rights. Belongs in off topic.

You sir are an off topic Nazzi:p

Meplat
03-20-2010, 3:24 PM
I like:

Abominably Sinister Statist Haters Of LibErty or:

A.S.S.H.O.L.E.s

dirtnap
03-20-2010, 3:31 PM
I thought "they" are already called "the government".

Mikeb
03-20-2010, 3:31 PM
I think it's a little simplistic to use a "us vs. them" strategy here. As you said, there are people from various sides of the political spectrum. I thought as far as the 2A, they were the "antis"?

I agree that the anti firearms folk should still be called "antis", but I think that Nicki is on a good track here. The Nanny stateists are a whole other breed of people that think the government should intrude and control every aspect of our lives. And they scare me
Mike

yellowfin
03-20-2010, 4:42 PM
Statist is pretty well established in common and describes the problem. Authoritarian and communist usually work too.

nn3453
03-20-2010, 5:07 PM
You sir are an off topic Nazzi:p

You used the Nazi card!

More seriously though, the 2A forum is great to read about 2A issues and CGF related news. Rants and name calling detracts from the purpose and doesn't achieve anything except make us all look like petulant school children.

jeffm223
03-20-2010, 6:03 PM
Don't mean to start a flame war, but just wondering if this "traitor" includes the man who signed the "Patriot" Act into law?

We all agree that the libs are evil traitors, but why not spread some love to the other side too.

Again, don't see how this thread has anything to do with 2A rights. Belongs in off topic.

Yes I do include both Dubya and Cheney in this category. They were entrusted to safeguard our rights, and instead took cynical advantage of the Americans killed on 9/11 for self-aggrandizement and personal profit. In the process they used our beloved constitution like toilet paper and did more harm to our libertys than anyone else in our country's history.
Now that a different administration is pulling the levers of oppression that they created, the Bush/Cheney allies complain. That is why the founders put safeguards in place, to prevent abuses by any group momentarily in power. Thanks to these scum and their ilk on both sides of the isle, we are marching in lockstep towards authoritarian rule. It is past the hour where we can any longer afford to be blind to past mistakes and far past time to be politically correct. A lot more than our 2A rights are at stake. Without the rest of the bill of rights, 2A is meaningless.

nitrofc
03-20-2010, 7:31 PM
F.A.R.T.

Fascist And Radical Tyrannist.

Pyrodyne
03-20-2010, 9:14 PM
Robber nannies.

Seesm
03-20-2010, 10:24 PM
We have attacks on our rights from both the left and the right.

I am going to request that all of us get away from attacking Liberals or so called right wing conservatives.

We are trying to outreach here in California and if we insult people, we turn them off.

So what do we call those who attack our rights, what is a Calguns safe term?

I propose calling our enemies "Nanny Authoritarian Statist. Doesn't matter if they are a nazi, fascist, socialist, communist or whatever.

If you are hostile to our personal rights, you obviously don't support the values espoused in the declaration of independence which IMHO makes someone an American in name only (AINO).

So let's call out our real enemies regardleess of which side of the political spectrum they hide on.

Many people who are liberals are so not because they are anti gun, but because the religious right keeps trying to stick government into people's private lives.

The bill of rights is a package deal.
.
So our new nasty terms are AINO and Nanny Authoratarian Statist (NAS).

Nicki

I thought we called them Democrats? Did I miss something? :)

M198
03-20-2010, 11:30 PM
How about we call the NASies?

Sounds like Curly from the three stooges.