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bigcalidave
03-18-2010, 6:22 AM
From the Reuters site... YAY!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62H2C520100318

Democratic Sen. Barbar Boxer at risk in election: poll
Peter Henderson
SAN FRANCISCO
Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:24am EDT
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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Democratic stalwart Barbara Boxer risks losing her U.S. Senate seat in the November election, a California poll showed on Thursday, in a sign that voter backlash is spreading to a reliably liberal state.

President Barack Obama is defending strong Democratic majorities in Congress at a time when dissatisfaction is high and the controlling party has failed to pass two high priority bills, on health care and climate change.

Voter fury which swept in Republican Senator Scott Brown in Massachusetts appeared not to apply to California in January, but the situation has changed quickly, said Field Poll Director Mark DiCamillo.

"This seat is much more competitive than any previous election that Boxer has faced," he said. "I think it's a toss-up state." Boxer's campaign said on Wednesday that Obama for the first time planned to come to California to campaign for the senator.

Boxer's unfavorable rating has shot up to 51 percent from 39 percent in two months and she is in a statistical dead heat when compared with the two leading candidates for the Republican nomination, former Congressman Tom Campbell and former Hewlett-Packard Co. Chief Executive Carly Fiorina.

"Voters are really recoiling at what is going on in Washington with health reform," DiCamillo said. "Whether you are a supporter of health reform or not, you don't like the way the process has been handled."

Health care changes have been moving through Congress in a start-and-stop process that has been extremely divisive. There may be a healthcare vote in the U.S. House of Representatives this weekend.

Brown, who campaigned in a pickup truck, was elected in part on a promise to stop the national health plan, and his victory was seen as a dramatic evidence of Democrats' vulnerability in the Congressional elections set for November.

A poll from Democratic organization Democratic Corp early this month showed that people rated Democrats and Republicans about the same, an erosion for Obama's party, and 60 percent felt the country was on the wrong track.

Campbell led Fiorina by six percentage points and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore by 19 points in the poll of likely voters in the June Republican primary. Campbell polled 28 percent support, Fiorina 22 percent and DeVore 9 percent.

Those Republican numbers were similar to two months ago.

But in January Boxer, a strong proponent of climate change legislation with a reputation as a liberal firebrand, had substantial double-digit leads over each of the three potential Republican rivals. Now she is four points ahead of DeVore and roughly even with the other two.

GM4spd
03-18-2010, 6:27 AM
I believe she will still win in November. Going to be very difficult to unseat
her regardless of how she stands on any issue. The state electorate as a
whole is just too far out there. We as gunowners are a solid base when it
comes to elections but in this state it isn't enough. Pete

glbtrottr
03-18-2010, 6:28 AM
nice! Time to campaign! :)

Draankol
03-18-2010, 7:10 AM
I am going to throw a party if that hag gets booted!

IGOTDIRT4U
03-18-2010, 7:17 AM
I believe she will still win in November. Going to be very difficult to unseat
her regardless of how she stands on any issue. The state electorate as a
whole is just too far out there. We as gunowners are a solid base when it
comes to elections but in this state it isn't enough. Pete

I feel your apprhension, but for once, a 'R' has a real shot, and not just a near shot, not a Ross Perot shot, but a near dead heat shot.

kdm
03-18-2010, 7:30 AM
This give me the warm fuzzies and all that...but, in more way than one, politicians are like dogs. Especially their time scale. March to November is an eternity, and too much can occur between now and then to swing the polls sentiment in the opposite direction. Show me this poll on 31Oct and I'll feel more secure.

SickofSoCal
03-18-2010, 7:58 AM
Nothing would warm my heart more.....

However, at this point I say she still wins. Also, I wouldn't put vote fraud past them.

cineski
03-18-2010, 8:16 AM
The word Republican doesn't mean what it once did, either.

I feel your apprhension, but for once, a 'R' has a real shot, and not just a near shot, not a Ross Perot shot, but a near dead heat shot.

GrayWolf09
03-18-2010, 8:18 AM
No matter how upset the voters are, I cannot see Barbara Boxer losing to Carly Fiorina. Fiorina ran HP into the ground, took a golden parachute, and got fired from the McCain campaign for putting her foot in her mouth once too often. HP employees have already contributed $10k -- to Boxer.

IGOTDIRT4U
03-18-2010, 8:20 AM
The word Republican doesn't mean what it once did, either.

Oh, I agree absolutely, but in this case, it's any 'R' over Boxer.

CharlieK
03-18-2010, 8:36 AM
The ***** is going down! (rhymes with rich)

Save the Republic, eat a Progressive!

krazz
03-18-2010, 8:44 AM
Oh, I agree absolutely, but in this case, it's any 'R' over Boxer.

That's the same thinking that gave us Arnold... what a mistake.

PonchoTA
03-18-2010, 8:52 AM
No matter how upset the voters are, I cannot see Barbara Boxer losing to Carly Fiorina. Fiorina ran HP into the ground, took a golden parachute, and got fired from the McCain campaign for putting her foot in her mouth once too often. HP employees have already contributed $10k -- to Boxer.

That may be, however Araianna Packard herself is endorsing Chuck DeVore, as is Tom DeMint, among many others.

That's where MY vote is going! :yes:


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CharlieK
03-18-2010, 8:54 AM
That's the same thinking that gave us Arnold... what a mistake.

True, but as bad as Arnie has been, he's MILES better than Boxer's big government Socialism. I'll take just about any R over Boxer. She's nearly as bad as it gets.

bwiese
03-18-2010, 8:55 AM
Little will change for gunrights regarding Boxer vs. Campbell....

1) At the Federal level, NRA owns Congress. So the change from
one to the other won't make any change there.

2) Some have you have seen Tom Campbell's visit to Calguns, where
he took pains to self-define himself as an anti.

IGOTDIRT4U
03-18-2010, 9:02 AM
That's the same thinking that gave us Arnold... what a mistake.

So you're agreeing with me!

IGOTDIRT4U
03-18-2010, 9:04 AM
Little will change for gunrights regarding Boxer vs. Campbell....

1) At the Federal level, NRA owns Congress. So the change from
one to the other won't make any change there.

2) Some have you have seen Tom Campbell's visit to Calguns, where
he took pains to self-define himself as an anti.

bweise, I missed that. Any links? Or, I think I know which thread you are referring to, IIRC. It was a CG thread, correct? Ijust don't remember Campbell actually posting.

Glock22Fan
03-18-2010, 9:52 AM
That's the same thinking that gave us Arnold... what a mistake.

Of the possible alternatives, who would have been better?

Not that I voted for Arnold.

As Churchill once said "Democracy is the worst form of government - except for the alternatives."

sholling
03-18-2010, 10:08 AM
Now if only Carly were a conservative instead of a Babs clone in drag as a republican I'd get more excited. But never fear, the mainstream media is solidly Democrat and won't let Babs be defeated. They will pull out all of the stops to protect her.

Hoop
03-18-2010, 10:29 AM
That's where MY vote is going! :yes:


Why throw away your vote? If it looks like someone - ANYONE - can unseat Boxer that is a victory. Boxer is a prime example of an idiot incumbent who needs to be thrown out of office.

bulgron
03-18-2010, 11:50 AM
Why throw away your vote? If it looks like someone - ANYONE - can unseat Boxer that is a victory. Boxer is a prime example of an idiot incumbent who needs to be thrown out of office.

Yeah, no way am I voting for Boxer. I can hope that Devore will win the primary, but that doesn't look likely. Either way, I'm voting against Boxer. The R candidate can't possibly be worse than her on guns, and we can at least hope for some fiscal sanity from the R.

Aegis
03-18-2010, 12:32 PM
There is a very good chance that Boxer loses her seat in the November elections. Under her watch...

-About 25% of California workers are out of unemployed.

-Gas is at its highest price since late 2008.

-The federal deficit is at record levels.

-California college tuition is at record levels.

-She voted for a stimulus bill that has not created jobs.

-The unpopular health care bill may pass this weekend.

-California is essentially bankrupt.

Not too good of a record to run for re-election on.

bubbapug1
03-18-2010, 12:37 PM
If they pass health care and middle class voters see their rates go up, Boxer and most other Dems will not be re-elected.

PonchoTA
03-18-2010, 12:39 PM
That and she's only written 3 bills in 18 years in CONgress. That doesn't seem to be awfully hard work to me. You know, that "hard work" she did to be called "Senator" by a General, that she doesn't even return the courtesy...

B1tch. GTFO.


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The Shadow
03-18-2010, 12:42 PM
Boxer doesn't seem to be nearly the problem Feinstien and Pelosi are. If I were the one to pick and choose who gets my attention, they would be the two.

bigstick61
03-18-2010, 1:00 PM
I'm rooting for DeVore in this election. He's got my vote in the primary, and if he wins (it'll be a hard fight, but I don't think a Fiorina win is a foregone conclusion) he's got my vote against Boxer for sure. A true-blue conservative who is also (naturally) pro-gun that is close to Boxer in the polls sounds really good to me.

bigstick61
03-18-2010, 1:03 PM
Of the possible alternatives, who would have been better?

Not that I voted for Arnold.

As Churchill once said "Democracy is the worst form of government - except for the alternatives."

Churchill was dead wrong. There other forms better than democracy. Democracy may not be the worst form of government, but it is one of the worst, and it was bad enough, if I recall correctly, for St. Thomas Aquinas to label it one of the three evil forms of government. Plato made a good case against it as well. Its failings have been known for millenia, which I supposeis why the Founders were adamantly opposed to democracy, some abhorring it.

IrishPirate
03-18-2010, 1:11 PM
If they pass health care and middle class voters see their rates go up, Boxer and most other Dems will not be re-elected.

so true....the majority of people don't want the health care bill and we expect our gov't to do what we say (for some reason which i don't understand since they have a horrible track record of doing so) so when they don't deliver you can bet that anyone who voted for it will have that stigma over their heads when their terms are up.....that doesn't mean that a repblican will take their place...a new democrat could come in denouncing them and try to take their place.

Boxer doesn't seem to be nearly the problem Feinstien and Pelosi are. If I were the one to pick and choose who gets my attention, they would be the two.

I would trade keeping Boxer for getting rid of Feinstein and Pelosi in a heart beat.....Boxer is definitely the lesser of two evils, but that doesn't mean she is not a detriment to this state. She needs to go and although I'm not sure who's the best person to replace her, I'm sure that i will not be voting for her come November.

Fate
03-18-2010, 1:40 PM
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2010-03/52791495-17175837.jpg

Barbara in today's LA Times.

Yikes.

dunndeal
03-18-2010, 2:01 PM
No matter how upset the voters are, I cannot see Barbara Boxer losing to Carly Fiorina.

Later for Carly Fiorina. Take a good long look at Chuck DeVore. According to this morning's SF Chronicle he's only 3 points behind her.

ErikTheRed
03-18-2010, 2:05 PM
There is a very good chance that Boxer loses her seat in the November elections. Under her watch...

-About 25% of California workers are out of unemployed.

-Gas is at its highest price since late 2008.

-The federal deficit is at record levels.

-California college tuition is at record levels.

-She voted for a stimulus bill that has not created jobs.

-The unpopular health care bill may pass this weekend.

-California is essentially bankrupt.

Not too good of a record to run for re-election on.

Whoops, there you go again, thinking like a normal person and using facts and history to back up your opinion. Gotta remember dude, liberals don't do that. Liberals vote for the person who is pro-choice, pro-socialist, and pro-gay. Thats it, thats all that matters. Boxer is a complete FAILURE as a Senator, completely inept and irrelevant. She has accomplished nothing but bringing this state to its knees. And it won't matter.

ErikTheRed
03-18-2010, 2:07 PM
Boxer's campaign said on Wednesday that Obama for the first time planned to come to California to campaign for the senator.

Sweet!! So maybe we do have a chance!!

SickofSoCal
03-18-2010, 2:36 PM
There is a very good chance that Boxer loses her seat in the November elections. Under her watch...

-About 25% of California workers are out of unemployed.

-Gas is at its highest price since late 2008.

-The federal deficit is at record levels.

-California college tuition is at record levels.

-She voted for a stimulus bill that has not created jobs.

-The unpopular health care bill may pass this weekend.

-California is essentially bankrupt.

Not too good of a record to run for re-election on.

You forgot to add AB 32, which would roughly kill another million jobs in CA....

vrand
03-18-2010, 2:38 PM
Sweet!! So maybe we do have a chance!!

:thumbsup:

loather
03-18-2010, 3:06 PM
If we can nix Feinstein, Boxer, and Pelosi, things will start looking up. Anyone has to be better than those three baboons. Except maybe Kevin DeLeon. He's a serious tool too.

BigDogatPlay
03-18-2010, 3:16 PM
You could have photos of Boxer in bed with a live girl or a dead boy and it likely wouldn't matter. I'd lay money down now that she beats either Fiorina or Cambell, the latter easily.

The only way you will get Nancy Pelosi out of the House is when she wants to go. Her seat is so safe it's beyond ridiculous. Same applies to Feinstein as well.

I am actually hopeful that Feinstein will retire at the end of the term she is on, which runs until 2012. It's probably wishful thinking on my part but she is currently the chair of the Select Committee on Intelligence, which is one of the three of four most prestigious chairs. By the rules she would have to give that chair up, IIRC, at the end of the next Congress in 2012. She'll be 79 years old then and might not be up to a particularly hard campaign.... especially if Obama is in deep electoral kim-chee as he very likely will be.

Naaaaah... she'll run again. :)

demnogis
03-18-2010, 3:34 PM
I'm definitely voting against that skunk. If Obama is coming here to help her campaign there will surely be a nail in her coffin. I believe DeVore is running against her?

Wild Squid
03-18-2010, 3:51 PM
Anyone know where Campbell and Fiorina stand on 2A?

bulgron
03-18-2010, 3:58 PM
Anyone know where Campbell and Fiorina stand on 2A?

They hate guns and would just as soon disarm everyone except for agents of the state.

BigDogatPlay
03-18-2010, 6:14 PM
Anyone know where Campbell and Fiorina stand on 2A?

Campbell is not a friend of ours. At all. I'm not sure on Fiorina, but I have grave doubts that she is any friend of ours.

The one thing that has irked me more than anything about this race is the Chuck DeVore was running for two years before Carly Fiorina opened her big fat checkbook in December and jumped in. Then Tom Campbell figured out that he couldn't possibly beat both Meg Whitman and Steve Poizner's checkbooks in the governor's race so he dropped out of that and jumped into the Senate contest. Complete and utter asshattery on Campbell's part, IMO, and perfectly in keeping with his record as an elected official.

Chuck DeVore is a real deal conservative. He is also very much a friend of ours. He is a solid candidate with an impeccable record, including long and honorable service in the National Guard and Army Reserve. He is the kind of candidate who could and would present the kind of polar opposite of a leftist loon like Mrs. Boxer. I fully intend to vote for Chuck DeVore in the primary and would encourage any and all gunnies / fiscal conservatives / people who care to do the same.

But since this is California, and since Fiorina has sucked all the oxygen out of the room with her BS, I don't expect DeVore to finish better than second in the primary.

Which is a huge pity.

five.five-six
03-18-2010, 6:21 PM
Fiorina ran HP into the ground, took a golden parachute, and got fired from the McCain campaign for putting her foot in her mouth once too often.

I see your point, Fiorina is more qualified than boxer


where do I donate?


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ErikTheRed
03-18-2010, 7:19 PM
Which is a huge pity.

As it always is in this God-forsaken circus we call California. A pity indeed.

My primary vote is for DeVore, no question about it. Chuck is a conservative first and a Republican second. Unfortunately, honesty, integrity, an exemplory service record, and respect for the Constitution has no place in California politics. Social depravity rules all.

MrBrent
03-18-2010, 7:26 PM
She must go down!!! Pick a candidate and help! Donate time or money or both to get her the hell out. I am sick of the BS form letters I get back from her every time I send her an email.

bulgron
03-18-2010, 7:31 PM
As it always is in this God-forsaken circus we call California. A pity indeed.

My primary vote is for DeVore, no question about it. Chuck is a conservative first and a Republican second. Unfortunately, honesty, integrity, an exemplory service record, and respect for the Constitution has no place in California politics. Social depravity rules all.

When is the primary? Maybe I'll re-register as a Republican so I can vote for him.

Librarian
03-18-2010, 7:36 PM
Just as an aside, I'm amused by the slight typo in the thread title. Especially considering the photo from the LA times, I'd love to see her face photoshopped into a Babar picture.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/dons_life/images/2007/07/15/babar.jpg

Colt-45
03-18-2010, 7:44 PM
"Democratic Sen. Barbar Boxer at risk in election" Yay!

+1000!!!!


:jump::party::party::party:

She has served long enough!!

not4un
03-18-2010, 7:45 PM
You can go to Chuck's website and print fliers out and put them in peoples mailboxes on car windshields etc. I plan on starting this week.

SJgunguy24
03-18-2010, 7:51 PM
Nothing would warm my heart more.....

However, at this point I say she still wins. Also, I wouldn't put vote fraud past them.


Hey it worked for Obama (ACORN)

WarEagle
03-18-2010, 8:19 PM
If you don't know anything about Chuck DeVore, I highly recommend you do some research on him. In my opinion, he's the only candidate friendly to the 2A and gets my full support.

Bounce Boxer, Vote Chuck DeVore.

Trench Broom
03-18-2010, 8:51 PM
Hasn't every candidate that Obama has campaigned for in person lost each election? ( Coakley, Corzine, and Deeds come to mind ). I personally can't wait until he flies out here to stump for Boxer.

anthonyca
03-19-2010, 5:08 PM
http://www.chuckdevore.com/

I am thoroughly impressed.

We need to get everyone who has an ax to grind with boxer against her. Be it the bailouts, for most people. Lack of anything on immigration reform, blacks, and others who have lost jobs to illegals, the health care bill, most people I know. Ect. Does anyone else have any ideas?

I am not talking about the groups that represent these disenfranchised people, I am talking about the majority of them. Find a pressure point and push.

The gun thing is not going to get us anywhere with her.

motorhead
03-20-2010, 12:47 AM
i won't truly believe she's gone until someone pounds a stake through her heart.

Dirtbozz
03-20-2010, 6:09 AM
The word Republican doesn't mean what it once did, either.

But it just might again. There is a ground swell of momentum towards moving back to the Constitution in this country. Look at all of the states that are starting all of the law suits against the Feds. The Three Stooges, Reid, Pelosi and Ovomit, may have been a God send after all. They went way too far and now will pay a price. The future looks bright to me (after some very disturbing times, I will admit).

:79:

Freedom is at hand again!!

Mulay El Raisuli
03-20-2010, 6:36 AM
Why throw away your vote? If it looks like someone - ANYONE - can unseat Boxer that is a victory. Boxer is a prime example of an idiot incumbent who needs to be thrown out of office.


Plus 1! Symbolism matters. Chuck Brown isn't just one Senator from one state, after all.


The Raisuli

Mulay El Raisuli
03-20-2010, 6:37 AM
But it just might again. There is a ground swell of momentum towards moving back to the Constitution in this country. Look at all of the states that are starting all of the law suits against the Feds. The Three Stooges, Reid, Pelosi and Ovomit, may have been a God send after all. They went way too far and now will pay a price. The future looks bright to me (after some very disturbing times, I will admit).

:79:

Freedom is at hand again!!


That's right. The pendulum can't swing back until it has first swung forth.


The Raisuli

blacksheep
03-20-2010, 1:22 PM
I think a bag full of dung would do a better job than Babs.