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killa345
03-17-2010, 7:56 PM
here are the markings
(the little marking on the stock says 61 and the circle that is next to is has TC in it. The mark with VF i cannot read)

virulosity
03-17-2010, 8:01 PM
Some of those may have been added if it has be re-arsenaled. I am not an expert, but it looks like a Tula that has been re-marked.

killa345
03-17-2010, 8:03 PM
i believe it is one of the 1000 or so sold to the American civilian market.

iareConfusE
03-18-2010, 1:14 AM
Did you take that picture right over your crotch?

packnrat
03-18-2010, 2:31 AM
Did you take that picture right over your crotch?

do you really want to know the answer??:eek:

Dr. Peter Venkman
03-18-2010, 8:06 AM
First one is the serial number
Second one is date of manufacture and arsenal (Tula)
Third might be the serial number prefix since I do not see such a letter designation in the first picture. In the same area on my SVT-40 there are just proof markings.
Fourth are unknown rearsenal markings and looks like carved initials.

SVT-40
03-18-2010, 3:13 PM
Someone has ground both sides if the receiver making them flat. The serial numbers is not an original Soviet marking and was probably added later by the Finn's during a refurb. The grinding appears to have been done after the new SN was added as there is still bluing in the bottom of the numerals. The letters on the other (right) side of the receiver are unknown and would not be proper for either a Soviet or Finnish rework. The markings on the stock are a combination of original, refurb and "owner" applied marks.

The areas which were ground woud be typically the areas where the Soviets would appily their S/N as well as the areas where the Finn's would place their "SA" property marks.

My best guess is someone here for what ever reason ground off the Finn markings as well as the original Soviet S/N.

Check this photo. The receiver of this SVT has the original Soviet S/N (ending in 341) at the bottom of the receiver. It also has a Finn applied number near the top of the receiver (1967) It also two Finn property marks "SA".
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/SVT/DSC04504-1.jpg

Top receiver markings same rifle.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/SVT/DSC04501-1.jpg

Another Finn capture SVT showing the original Soviet S/N and Finn property mark. No Finn applied S/N.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/SVT/DSC00657-01.jpg

Typical Original Soviet S/N markings on a non Finn capture.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/SVT/DSC05278.jpg

Standard Soviet proofs on the right side of the receiver.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/SVT/DSC05288.jpg

iareConfusE
03-18-2010, 3:16 PM
Who better to give this information than the gun itself? :D

killa345
03-18-2010, 5:40 PM
well the serial number says 3990 so i would guess it was produced around the blitzkrieg and thrown into combat as quickly as possible skipping the proper marks.

Fate
03-18-2010, 8:26 PM
The pre-eminent forum for SVT collectors is gunboards.com. Post the pics in the Collector forum and you'll get the best info possible.

Fate
03-18-2010, 8:26 PM
well the serial number says 3990 so i would guess it was produced around the blitzkrieg and thrown into combat as quickly as possible skipping the proper marks.

If the mark were Los Angeles, you'd be in Pakistan. ;) You're waaaaay off base.

SVT-40
03-18-2010, 11:39 PM
well the serial number says 3990 so i would guess it was produced around the blitzkrieg and thrown into combat as quickly as possible skipping the proper marks.

Just not a possible scenario. Even during the worst of times the Soviets were sticklers for proper serial numbers and proofs. Remember at the time the SVT-40 was their latest greatest achievement in rifle development. Even during refurbishment proper proofing was mandatory

Vladimir
03-19-2010, 9:50 PM
Im still looking for a nazi capture SVT with the third reich eagle stamped over the russian arsenal mark

gun toting monkeyboy
03-19-2010, 10:04 PM
i believe it is one of the 1000 or so sold to the American civilian market.

1000 or so? Where did you get that number? All of the big import houses had tons of these in the early 1990s. They were blowing them out at Turners on a fairly regular basis. I somehow think that there were more than 1000 sold here...