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oversteerdawg
03-17-2010, 2:34 PM
Hi ladies. I'm looking for a 9mm HD semi-auto for my 5'2" 100lb girlfriend. She shot a Sig P226 and found the recoil manageable, but the grip is a little big for her.

What 9mm semi-auto's do you find works well with small hands. Preferably one that's too light and with a slide that isn't too hard to rack. Suggestions?

Street Legal
03-17-2010, 3:03 PM
Glock 23

9mmepiphany
03-17-2010, 3:09 PM
i'll give you two at opposite ends of the spectrum as to trigger style and weight:

the Springfield Armory EMP and the Kahr CW9, both are very thin and reliable...and very impressive in their own way
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/DSC_1646.jpg

troysland
03-17-2010, 3:12 PM
I use a CW9 for CCW, great for smaller hands.

oversteerdawg
03-17-2010, 3:19 PM
I use a CW9 for CCW, great for smaller hands.

How is the recoil compared to, say, a Sig P226? I've never had the opportunity to shoot any Kahr's.

troysland
03-17-2010, 3:27 PM
I must say my Sig P226R is less snappy than my CW9. The lightweight of the polymer Kahr doesn't help much with felt recoil. The Sig, Steel frame, absorbs more of the recoil. Very comfortable to shoot.

Steyrlp10
03-17-2010, 3:29 PM
i'll give you two at opposite ends of the spectrum as to trigger style and weight:

the Springfield Armory EMP and the Kahr CW9, both are very thin and reliable...and very impressive in their own way
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/DSC_1646.jpg

Oh pink! Lol...

Steyrlp10
03-17-2010, 3:33 PM
Hi ladies. I'm looking for a 9mm HD semi-auto for my 5'2" 100lb girlfriend. She shot a Sig P226 and found the recoil manageable, but the grip is a little big for her.

What 9mm semi-auto's do you find works well with small hands. Preferably one that's too light and with a slide that isn't too hard to rack. Suggestions?


I'm still a fan of Colt 1911s and not too hot on "plastic guns", but...

My GF recently bought a Springfield XD in the 9mm. I tried it and liked it better than a Glock.

I have an XD in the .45 germinating at the shop since it's no fun watching other people buy toys while having to wait on the sidelines - lol

oversteerdawg
03-17-2010, 3:52 PM
I'm still a fan of Colt 1911s and not too hot on "plastic guns", but...

My GF recently bought a Springfield XD in the 9mm. I tried it and liked it better than a Glock.

I have an XD in the .45 germinating at the shop since it's no fun watching other people buy toys while having to wait on the sidelines - lol

I actually like the XD as well, but I was thinking a DA/SA with double strike capability would be better for her as an HD gun. Oh, and also, it has to be "pretty." I'm starting to lean towards a used Sig P6 or something similar.

Kelvrick
03-17-2010, 4:04 PM
My full-sized springy 9mm 1911 is popular, as is my kahr pm9. Smaller and the recoil has more kick than say a sig p226, but they still like how the single-stack mag well fits in their hand.

I'd say an MK9 or MK9 will be even better than my PM9. Maybe a commander sized 1911 9mm if you can find one will be almost perfect.

-R-
03-17-2010, 4:17 PM
Well if your stuck on DA/SA then how about a Sig Sp2022? They have a small grip option and are also a little easier on the wallet.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/kraut/Guns/Grips-SP2022.jpg

Other than the sig, id recommend a M&P 9. The interchangeable back straps make it easy to adjust for any shooter. The M&P series also has very light recoil.

bryan28
03-17-2010, 6:20 PM
The SP2022 are fatter than they look, but anything is worth handling to see if it fits you.

If she likes Sigs, try the P239. it's also aluminum frame like the P226. The difference is it's a single stack magazine. Magazine only holds 8 rounds but we live in CA anyway so you're only giving up 2 rounds in the mag.

P226 weighs 28 ounces, P239 weighs 25 ounces. The weight is close enough that recoil probably isn't noticable.

The P239 looks different from classic P-series though. Sorta a cross between a P226 and Walther PPK. You can also try out the Sig P225. Also single stack and looks like a classic Sig. It weighs 26 ounces. There's a bunch of affordable ($400) police trade in P225s in gun stores.

jeffm223
03-17-2010, 6:57 PM
+1 on the P239. No noticeable recoil in 9mm, very light in 40. Amazingly accurate and reliable. The single stack is a major difference for those with short fingers. If you are worried about capacity just learn to do fast changes :-).

felixthecat1
03-17-2010, 7:38 PM
How about a glock 22, with a pink slide? That'd be pretty, and although a little bigger than you might be looking for, the reduced weight from the polymer frame might be a good "fit" for her. My fiancee is 5'2", and although she's on the husky side (I'm so glad she doesn't read/post here)... she handles it like a champ!

HeHateMe
03-17-2010, 8:47 PM
Sig 225 or the CZ line with thin grips.

MotherGoose
03-17-2010, 9:17 PM
Find a range with a good selection of Rentals Guns, Have her put 20 to 30 rounds through each gun she has selected. Also she might want to try a 40SW

MotherGoose
03-17-2010, 9:21 PM
A good choice for smaller hands is a Taurus 38 Ultra-Lite revolver.

9mmepiphany
03-17-2010, 10:27 PM
Oh pink! Lol...
even better...that is a meditation floor pillow from Esalen, down by Big Sur

OP- if you're worried about recoil, the Kahrs also come with a steel frame. if you're looking at something the size of a P6, the Sig 229 is the same thickness...thinner grips

IIIVIII
03-18-2010, 9:46 AM
I bought my GF a Walther P99AS and the interchangeable back strap works great with perfect ergonomics. When she's shooting it, I change it to the small back strap and it fits her hand perfectly. When I take it to go shoot, I switch it back to the med back strap. The recoil on the 9mm is very manageable and I recommend the AS trigger system as it has a lighter, more manageable, trigger pull weight in SA for the ladies.

CZ 75 variants also have nice ergonomics but is a bit too heavy for her to hold and keep her aim.

El Gato
03-18-2010, 9:53 AM
the sig p6 is really nice if she can get over the initial double action trigger pull... and there are still some floating around... and sig has new mags... and the gun is really accurate and smallish... and thin...there is one at Valley Gun in Bako selling for 475.00 which is a bit more than they did a year ago.. but probably still reasonable..they often wont feed hollowpoints but the one my son has feed corbon powerball rather well....

Steyrlp10
03-18-2010, 10:47 AM
I actually like the XD as well, but I was thinking a DA/SA with double strike capability would be better for her as an HD gun. Oh, and also, it has to be "pretty." I'm starting to lean towards a used Sig P6 or something similar.

I must agree with your GF in that the gun must be "pretty." After all, we girls have our reputations to uphold - lol

Untamed1972
03-18-2010, 2:16 PM
A good choice for smaller hands is a Taurus 38 Ultra-Lite revolver.

The Taurus PT-111 has a pretty slim grip on it. And it free states holds 12+1(or 10+1 in CA). Not bad for a compact pistol and can be had brand new for under $400. I saw a used one the other day for $299.

sg916
03-18-2010, 8:33 PM
I find that my Kahr's are the most comfortable and easiest for females to shoot. Recoil is very manageable and they can manipulate every part of the gun with smaller hands.

OliveCookieMonsta
03-24-2010, 6:54 PM
I really like my Lil kahr... Small, light, and ez to shoot.

nic
03-25-2010, 8:49 AM
I would suggest looking at a 9mm 1911, a CZ75 with slim grips, or a SIG P225/P6.

WaR_ClouD-VII
03-25-2010, 8:56 AM
The M&P subcompacts are an excellent smaller gun, and the grip is more comfortable than the Glock in my opinion.. Reliability wise they seem to hold up pretty well. Also you can change out the backstraps on it to help fit it to her hand.

Dooly
04-17-2010, 7:30 PM
she might like the glock 26.

Trvlngnrs
04-25-2010, 7:23 PM
I just went thru this with my wife. It is her first gun.

Pistols I own: Kahr PM9, Sig 220, Kimber CDP, Glock G19.

We wanted something double action so she wouldn't have to mess with safeties and it would have a consistent trigger pull. We went to 4 gun stores over a few days. She held many different 9mm's.

The gun that felt the best to her was the Walther P99. The AS trigger had us concerned due to the 3 trigger stages: Double Action, Anti Stress, Single Action. We felt it would be hard to get consistent shots with three trigger pull/weights. They do make a QA action, but couldn't find one to try. The bore axis is reportedly higher than the Glocks/M&P's which may lead to more muzzle flip and slower 2nd shots. Mags are expensive. Many people on the Walther forums are putting Glock springs/or cutting loops off the stock striker spring to try and reduce trigger weight.

The next best feeling for her was the M&P. Especially with the small backstrap.

We rented a M&P and she shot it, along with my G19, 220, PM9. She put approx 5 rounds thru the PM9 (too much recoil), 5 rounds thru the Sig 220 (too much recoil, DA trigger too heavy), 50 rounds thru the G19, and approx 100 thru the M&P (with the Med backstrap, as the range didn't have the small).


The winner was....M&P 9mm. She was accurate with it, and felt it had less recoil than the Glock. We ordered her the M&P9 JG as it has 5 backstraps (2 pink), and Warren Tactical sights (I installed them on my G19, I love them)

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=68941&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15711&isFirearm=Y

The M&P doesn't have as good a trigger as some, but Apex Tactical makes drop in sears which work wonders according to the M&P forums. S&W is having a $50 rebate which will pay for it.

Hope this helps!!

gotime
04-25-2010, 7:59 PM
SR9c. Compact version of a great gun with an already thin grip.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr9cBlackenedAlloy/images/3314.jpg

Lulfas
04-26-2010, 4:48 PM
After a fair bit of work, my girlfriend ended up choosing a Glock 17. Fit her nicely. Consider checking it out :D

mrboma
04-29-2010, 3:31 PM
http://www.jgstrade.com/images/sklady/Steyr_M9_M.jpg

FWIW my wife LOVES her Steyr M9-A1. Great ergo's for smaller hands and the recoil is incredibly light. Finding one might be a PITA.

Good luck either way.
Regards,
Mike

Sicarius
04-29-2010, 5:28 PM
As much as I hate the walther p99, they do fit the hand nicely.
Kevin

localguy
04-29-2010, 5:41 PM
I've noticed that 1911's (full size, compact, whatever) fit well in pretty much any size hand.

Ron-Solo
04-29-2010, 7:38 PM
Check out the Smith & Wesson M&P 9 series. Multiple grip options. My wife loves mine. Takes about a minute to change grips.

CZlover
04-29-2010, 9:35 PM
Kel-tec P11

Kahr P9

radioburning
04-30-2010, 2:13 PM
I've noticed that 1911's (full size, compact, whatever) fit well in pretty much any size hand.

Especially if you throw on some slim grips.

Another +1 for the Sig P6/225 as well.