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Booshanky
03-06-2010, 9:51 AM
Hey guys,

My Uncle has a .270win that he wants to put a scope on. This is the one that he sent me in an e-mail.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/counter-sniper-10-40x56-mm-scope.aspx?a=603063

It looks like a decent scope and seems to be a really good price. But what do you guys think? It seems a bit overkill for the cartridge. I think mostly he'll be using it for putting holes in paper. Maybe some hunting but probably just target practice.

What do you guys think? Any other recommendations? He's going for around 500 bucks.

-Mark

Trendkill
03-06-2010, 9:54 AM
Yup....thats massive overkill for the usage you layed out.

Booshanky
03-06-2010, 9:56 AM
Just read this review of a similar scope by the same company. Sounds awful. (http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1300810&nt=2&page=1)

russ69
03-06-2010, 10:10 AM
A good quality 3 X 9 is the best bang for the buck.

Thanx, Russ

Black Majik
03-06-2010, 10:12 AM
Be a good nephew, dissuade him from buying that piece of crap

Here's a link we did recently
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=272910

FMJBT
03-06-2010, 10:28 AM
Just read this review of a similar scope by the same company. Sounds awful. (http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1300810&nt=2&page=1)

Awesome. Looks like that Bertilliun-Zantacticalium-Assblastium coating didn't do much to keep the windage knob from falling off....

I'm sure there will be someone later on who will recomend Nightforce or U.S Optics, but it sounds like he probably just needs a decent 3X9.

This Bushnell has a BDC reticle to use for holdover points at longer ranges:
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-3-9x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P13145.aspx

Vortex Viper is worth looking into also:
http://swfa.com/Vortex-3-9x40-Viper-Rifle-Scope-P11229.aspx

Beetle Bailey
03-06-2010, 10:33 AM
Well, typically any rifle chambered in .270 win is a hunting rifle, and usually a bolt-action so this is what I am gonna assume we are dealing with. The most popular hunting rifle scopes currently are the 3-9x40 variable power scopes, and the most popular reticle is the duplex.

Reason being, when you are hunting, you leave the scope on a low power setting, like 3x or 4x so if you see a deer at, say 30 yards, you can quickly shoulder the rifle and find the deer in the scope. If the scope were set at 9x, the field of view is very small compared to the 3x and so you end up losing the deer because it is hard to spot with such a small field of view.

If you want to take a longer shot at game, say 150-200 yards, you will have time to turn the power up to 9x to help with the shot. No problem. The majority of hunters probably shouldn't take shots at game past 200 yards even though the .270 win is easily capable out to 300 yards for game. Also, shooting at the range, 9x is enough to help you hit targets out to 400 yards or more pretty easy.

The duplex reticle is popular mainly because in shadows and/or dim light, you can still see your reticle due to the thick posts, but the thin posts allow you to see your target clearly.

For a fixed power scope, the most popular choices for hunting rifles is 4x or 6x. A large 10x scope is not appropriate for a hunting rifle because the large size and weight unbalance the rifle and thus reduce ease of handling. The magnification is not useful for the majority of shots on game a hunter would generally be taking. Sometimes, less is more.

My medium and big game hunting rifle is a .30-06 with an old 3-9x Redfield scope that came with the rifle. I've only taken one wild boar, and some squirrels with it, but the set-up is a tried and true set-up for a hunting rifle.

For a scope recommendation, I would suggest checking out a Vortex Viper. I actually just placed an order for a Viper, but it is a 6.5-20x 44mm scope that is going on a varmint/predator rifle in .223 rem. They come with a lifetime warranty and an excellent customer service reputation. I have checked out their binos and spotting scopes and they are great for the money.

Jpach
03-06-2010, 10:51 AM
Although its $100 more Boo, I keep reading good things about the new 3-9x Super Sniper. You may want to check it out for your uncle, theres lots of stuff about it on Snipers Hide.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1674826

Heres a link to the actual scope page

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P41044.aspx

X-NewYawker
03-06-2010, 1:32 PM
Leupold has brought back the Redfield line and they are VERY simple very good quality and VERY affordable -- made in the USA.

Trendkill
03-06-2010, 2:16 PM
Leupold has brought back the Redfield line and they are VERY simple very good quality and VERY affordable -- made in the USA.


Here's my setup with my new redfield. Boo , I know from your past posts that you like photography....so bear with my crapola camera.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/necritan/IMG_6029.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/necritan/IMG_6031.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/necritan/IMG_6032.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/necritan/IMG_6034.jpg

FMJBT
03-06-2010, 2:47 PM
What brand rifle is that Trendkill? I can't make heads or tails out of it, Savage style barrel nut and trigger with Remington bolt handle and safety.... Is the bolt fluted? Nice scope BTW :)

Trendkill
03-06-2010, 3:15 PM
What brand rifle is that Trendkill? I can't make heads or tails out of it, Savage style barrel nut and trigger with Remington bolt handle and safety.... Is the bolt fluted? Nice scope BTW :)

Marlin XL7 30-06


Hahaha.....thats funny....cuzz thats exactly what Marlin was doing when they came up with the XL7. They took the stuff that works from those rifles...and made it reasonable in price and accurate out of the box. Bolt is fluted. They did good with this one.

I like the scope...I mounted it with Millet angle loc rings (which I really like) also.

The scope was 150 bucks from optics planet.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/redfield-revolution-3-9x40mm-riflescope-matte-finish-4-plex-accu-range-reticle.html

Rings

http://www.opticsplanet.net/millet-angle-loc-weaver-style-smooth-1-rings.html

Rifle

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/323/products_id/52884

OutlawDon
03-06-2010, 3:39 PM
Total crap scope. Come on bro, you know better than that. You've been around the block in the gun world. 10-40x is rediculous for his needs. How far is he shooting to? I'd do a 3-15x or 4-16x for hunting and target shooting needs.

Mission drives the equipment.

Looks at Nikon, Leupold or Vortex for good bang for buck at ~$500.

Trendkill
03-06-2010, 3:49 PM
Total crap scope. Come on bro, you know better than that. You've been around the block in the gun world. 10-40x is rediculous for his needs. How far is he shooting to?

Mission drives the equipment.

Looks at Nikon, Leupold or Vortex for good bang for buck at ~$500.

500 should afford somethin pretty good....for sure.

I got mine for hunting out to 200-300 max....thats why I could save some money. :)

Booshanky
03-06-2010, 9:55 PM
Hey, thanks SO much for the pics! I directed my uncle to this thread so he can read it and I'm sure that'll be a huge help.

Again, you guys are great. Always why I come here for good firearms advice.