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sfguyhere
03-05-2010, 8:59 PM
Hi Guys,

I was throwing around the idea of modifying my AR barrel. I was thinking of converting my 16" AR barrel. I wanted to have it cut down and have a Noveske pig suppressor installed for an overall length of 16"...

Anyone here who's done the same to their rifle offer any advice? Any con's with this?

Thanks!

greenpea76
03-05-2010, 9:10 PM
www.AR15barrels.com

FMJBT
03-05-2010, 10:33 PM
You'll need the barrel cut down to around 3.7" to have the KX3 bring it out to 16". Remember also that the KX3 unscrews at the end for cleaning. With the cone section removed it's about 1/8" shorter. This shorter length is what you need to index off of when determining overall barrel length.

White Oak Armament makes a 13.7" stainless barrel for $279.00 that would work perfectly for this application. I would probably go this route rather than having an exsisting barrel cut down.

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1642

Due to potential "Constructive Posession" issues regarding barrels shorter than 16", it's probably a good idea to have the barrel and FH sent directly to a gunsmith for permanently attaching.

sfguyhere
03-05-2010, 10:39 PM
I checked out the rainierarms barrel and it looks cool. It appears to be a 223 barrel, do they also make a 5.56 barrel?

FMJBT
03-05-2010, 10:43 PM
I checked out the rainierarms barrel and it looks cool. It appears to be a 223 barrel, do they also make a 5.56 barrel?

It's chambered for .223 Wylde, a slightly modified chambering that will safely fire both .223 and 5.56 ammunition. Looks like it's out of stock at the moment unfortunately, but Rainier is usually pretty good about getting stuff re-stocked.

FMJBT
03-05-2010, 10:59 PM
Rainier will pin/weld for $39.95

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1527

sfguyhere
03-05-2010, 11:14 PM
Holy Smokes ! ! !

I've never heard of Wylde. Just did a search on it and all I can say is Wow!!

Looks like I've got a project.

thanks for the info and links FMJBT.

aplinker
03-06-2010, 12:19 PM
two things...

i have one, and I'm planning to dump it. It's very muzzle heavy, as the KX3 is a brick.

If you want a 13.7" custom WOA mid-length with perm KX3 and just under 2k rounds, let me know. It prints small, cycles perfectly.

FMJBT
03-06-2010, 12:21 PM
No Problem :)

Another note for permanently attaching the KX3: You'll want to slip the barrel nut and gas block/tube over the barrel BEFORE attaching the KX3. The outside diameter of the KX3 is large enough that these components can't be installed afterwards. I just wen't through this on a 14.5 Sabre Barrel:

http://forums.hybridz.org/uploads/1267067193/gallery_207_725_82423.jpg

sfguyhere
03-06-2010, 12:59 PM
does that mean I have to send my rifle out for the installation? So they can make all the adjustments at the time?

I'd hate to send my rifle to WOA for the installation. . .

FMJBT
03-06-2010, 1:23 PM
does that mean I have to send my rifle out for the installation? So they can make all the adjustments at the time?

I'd hate to send my rifle to WOA for the installation. . .

Depends on what kind of forearm you decide to run. If you run a two piece or large diameter free float rail, all you need to have is the barrel nut and gas block loosely installed onto the barrel before attaching the FH. Once you get the barrel, just install normally. You may have to modify the barrel nut wrench slightly by notching it to slip over the barrel, depending on manufacturer. After torquing the barrel nut, slide the gas tube through it, position the gas block correctly and tighten it down too. Install free float rail for the final step.

If you are using standard handguards or a free float rail that won't slip over the KX3, then I would recommend having a gunsmith do the installation.

.40Cal
03-06-2010, 7:00 PM
It's chambered for .223 Wylde, a slightly modified chambering that will safely fire both .223 and 5.56 ammunition. Looks like it's out of stock at the moment unfortunately, but Rainier is usually pretty good about getting stuff re-stocked.

Make sure you do research on this... you can shoot 223 & 5.56 in a 5.56Nato barrel/chamer. But not the other way. Why? Cuz 5.56 is a high pressure round. Check it out ...

FMJBT
03-06-2010, 8:00 PM
Make sure you do research on this... you can shoot 223 & 5.56 in a 5.56Nato barrel/chamer. But not the other way. Why? Cuz 5.56 is a high pressure round. Check it out ...

It's been discussed before. .223 WYLDE chambers will chamber and fire 5.56 NATO without issue, as well as being able to fire regular .223 REMINGTON with a reasonable level of accuracy.