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pingpong
03-05-2010, 6:46 PM
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1SKS

No evil features that I see...

huck
03-05-2010, 6:48 PM
No reason.

Noah3683
03-05-2010, 6:52 PM
After tranfer fees it would cost you as much as buying one somewhere locally anyway

ghost
03-05-2010, 9:31 PM
theres no reason,they just dont want to do business with california buyers.

juicemansam
03-05-2010, 11:25 PM
SKS w/ detachable magazine?

Trendkill
03-05-2010, 11:32 PM
SKS w/ detachable magazine?

Umm...those arent detachable.

twinjetguy
03-05-2010, 11:35 PM
You can buy an SKS in CA, just not those. I bought mine, a Yugo and it even had the bayonet on it.

Trendkill
03-05-2010, 11:50 PM
You can buy an SKS in CA, just not those. I bought mine, a Yugo and it even had the bayonet on it.

Ummm....that is incorrect....you can buy Chinese SKS's in CA.

gunace89
03-05-2010, 11:54 PM
Ummm....that is incorrect....you can buy Chinese SKS's in CA.

Tis true, you can buy them. But I would recommend the Yugo, I like mine, and it comes with random attachments on it. :cool2:

SJgunguy24
03-05-2010, 11:56 PM
You can buy an SKS in CA, just not those. I bought mine, a Yugo and it even had the bayonet on it.

Ummmm........ that Yugo you bought isn't an SKS, it's either a Zestava Model 59 or model 59/66.

twinjetguy
03-06-2010, 12:08 AM
Ummm....that is incorrect....you can buy Chinese SKS's in CA.

Ok, my bad. I meant that you just can't buy the ones from AIM.

Ummmm........ that Yugo you bought isn't an SKS, it's either a Zestava Model 59 or model 59/66.

Potato Potatoe, same platform. :D

ke6guj
03-06-2010, 1:05 AM
Ummmm........ that Yugo you bought isn't an SKS, it's either a Zestava Model 59 or model 59/66.


Potato Potatoe, same platform. :Dright, but if it isn't legally an SKS, then the AW listing "SKS with detachable magazine" does not apply to it.:43:

SJgunguy24
03-06-2010, 1:13 AM
right, but if it isn't legally an SKS, then the AW listing "SKS with detachable magazine" does not apply to it.:43:

I hate making it too easy for people.

Trendkill
03-06-2010, 9:39 AM
I hate making it too easy for people.

Lol....

juicemansam
03-07-2010, 1:28 AM
Umm...those arent detachable.

Umm... they look detachable to me. So if they are detachable, I'm guessing they're branded "SKS" and therefore cannot be shipped to CA.

SanPedroShooter
03-07-2010, 5:10 AM
"Contrary to popular belief, the SKS is a carbine and not a modern assault rifle, because it does not meet all the criteria for such a weapon. Namely, the basic design lacks both selective fire capability, and a removable magazine. Some selective-fire variants were produced in the PRC, and many SKS's have been modified in various ways to accept detachable magazines; however, the basic design of the SKS is semi-automatic and fixed-magazine in nature. The carbine's ten-round box magazine is fed from a stripper clip (see below), and rounds stored in the magazine can be removed by depressing a magazine catch (thus opening the "floor" of the magazine and allowing the rounds to fall out) located forward of the trigger"

If it's on wikipedia it must be true!! As new member, i leave it to the more senior to set noobs straight, but i couldnt resist. Besides i thought this issue was resolved like 10 years ago??

416stroker
03-07-2010, 5:14 AM
Umm... they look detachable to me. So if they are detachable, I'm guessing they're branded "SKS" and therefore cannot be shipped to CA.

The top pic you posted is not detachable. the base of the mag drops pot the mag does not come out With the lever. Learn before you Post.

The second one you posted seems to have a box mag.

CA DOJ Is refering to the duckbill mags, Duckbill Drums, and the chinese sks that take ak mags

Mstnpete
03-07-2010, 5:33 AM
Here's a letter from DOJ a while back regarding SKS with detachable mags.

http://www.nramemberscouncils.com/contracosta/FaxAlerts/sksalert.shtml

ATTENTION:
If you own an SKS style rifle, you need to be aware of an important change in its legal status in California!

In November of 1997 former Attorney General Dan Lungren, in a reversal of the position his office had held since 1991, decided that any SKS type rifle with a detachable magazine was illegal per penal code 12276 (Assault Weapons Control Act). Additionally, the AG decided that registration of such rifles would not be accepted by his office. As a result, thousands of SKS owners were put at risk of arrest.

In order to protect SKS owners and rectify wrongful prosecutions, the National Rifle Association asked Assemblyman Rod Wright (D-South Central LA) to author emergency corrective legislation. On September 27, 1998, Governor Wilson signed this legislation, AB 48, into law. The new law, which took effect on January 1, 1999, specifically deals with the model known as the "SKS Sporter."

For purposes of implementing the "buy-back" provision in the law, the California Department of Justice defines the SKS Sporter as:

"A semi-automatic rifle 'configured' to accept a detachable magazine which is capable of firing a 7.62 x 39 mm cartridge* and is not otherwise prohibited under the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Act - Such rifles must have been acquired between the dates of January 1, 1992 and December 19, 1997. Stock design/composition or the variety of the SKS markings that may exist would not affect its acceptance under AB 48's buy-back provisions.

*Ruger Mini-30, Colt Sporter, and AK style rifles do not qualify under the buy-back provision in AB 48"

Keep in mind that the DOJ's definition of the SKS Sporter is much broader than it is in the law, so depending on which model you own, you have several different alternatives to choose from in order to comply with the law. Please check below to identify which type of SKS you have and what options are available to you:

Rifles originally designed to use a 10-round fixed magazine

The vast majority of SKS type rifles sold in California are designed to use a fixed magazine of ten round capacity. These firearms require the removal of the trigger assembly before the fixed magazine can be removed and replaced with a detachable magazine. The two principal models are the 1950's era Russian production, the true SKS rifle, and the Chinese version, which is technically the type 56 but is also known as the SKS. In their original configurations with the fixed magazine, neither the Soviet SKS nor the Chinese type 56 is an "assault weapon" per penal code 12276. If, however, you have removed the original "fixed" magazine and replaced it with a detachable aftermarket magazine, it is illegal according to the new Lungren interpretation.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/amgguy/sksJPG.jpg

If you own one of the above models, all you need to do to comply with the law is remove the aftermarket detachable magazine and reinstall the original 10-round fixed magazine. You may also surrender your firearm to a law enforcement agency (see details below).


SKS Sporters

Between 1992 and late 1997, Chinese type rifles originally manufactured to accept detachable AK-47 style magazines were sold in California. These rifles do not have a bayonet and lack any apparatus on the barrel to mount a bayonet. There were two basic stock designs - a standard Sporter style with a small pistol grip and a thumbhole style. The barrel or receiver may be marked 'SKS Sporter.' Due to the new ruling, these firearms are now considered "assault weapons" under the AWCA.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/amgguy/skssportJPG.jpg


If you purchased an SKS Sporter between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997, you must do one of the following by January 1, 2000:

Destroy the rifle
Surrender the rifle to a law enforcement agency
Sell the rifle to a licensed California "assault weapon" dealer
Dispose of the rifle out of state
If you choose to surrender the rifle to a law enforcement agency, you will be reimbursed by the Department of Justice. The amount of your reimbursement will be your actual cost if you provide a receipt, or $230.00 if you do not have a receipt. You will be required to attest to the date upon which you purchased the firearm. When surrendering the rifle,you need not relinquish any related accessories i.e. sling, cleaning equipment, case, magazine, scope, etc. If you choose this option, make prior arrangements with your local law enforcement agency and be sure the rifle is unloaded and transported as required by state law. If you decide to sell the rifle to an out-of-state dealer or to a licensed California "assault weapon" dealer, contact NRA's Grassroots Division at 1-800-392-8683 for applicable federal laws or names of licensed California "assault weapon" dealers.

A beneficial provision in the new law, which offers immunity to those who act on one the options listed above by the January 2000 deadline, has helped to prevent hundreds of law-abiding gun owners from being charged as felons. Another provision allows persons who have already been convicted for conduct relating to an SKS rifle purchased between January 1, 1992 and December 17, 1997, to withdraw their guilty plea or to reopen their case and assert the immunities provided by the law. If you purchased an SKS rifle during that time period, and have been wrongfully arrested, charged, or convicted please contact NRA's Sacramento office at (916) 446-2455.

tenpercentfirearms
03-07-2010, 5:58 AM
I think you can't buy them because they are sold out. :D

OneApart
03-07-2010, 6:34 AM
theres no reason,they just dont want to do business with california buyers.

Pretty much it..... too bad there are so many merchants out there that aren't willing to step up and take care of us out here!