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aeromech
03-05-2010, 9:34 AM
Hi all,
I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I did attempt a search but was unable to find relevant answers.

I contacted a private seller here and we plan to meet at a gun store to begin the transfer of his rifle to me. We both live in California. This is the first time I've done this so I have a few questions.

1) What is the standard charge for the gun store to do this?

2) It's a long gun does DROS apply?

3) Will the gun store charge me sales tax? If they do, I assume it's on the agreed price not some fair market value price?

4) Any comments on things to be aware of?

TIA

paul0660
03-05-2010, 9:37 AM
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Buying_and_selling_firearms_in_California#Buying_f rom_a_Private_Party_-_PPT

Standard
03-05-2010, 9:42 AM
Price for the PPT should be $35, no sales tax. Yes, you have to DROS, and have a 10-day wait.

ledman
03-05-2010, 10:31 AM
Also fyi rifles over 50 years are c&r and is cash and carry. No dros required. Pistols no matter of c&r status must be dros'ed through a ffl. Welcome to calguns!

abusalim81
03-05-2010, 10:33 AM
No sales tax allowed because the gun store is not selling you anything!

IrishPirate
03-05-2010, 10:36 AM
Also fyi rifles over 50 years are c&r and is cash and carry. No dros required. Pistols no matter of c&r status must be dros'ed through a ffl. Welcome to calguns!

i thought it's only C&C if one of the parties has an 03FFL......


no sales tax between private parties.....the buyer will have to DROS........SHOULD NOT BE MORE THAN $35 FOR TRANSFER FEE!!!!!

dachan
03-05-2010, 11:48 AM
i thought it's only C&C if one of the parties has an 03FFL......


No, no 03FFL is required. C&C on C&R long guns per PC12078 (t) (2), exempts C&R long guns (actually any firearm that is not a handgun) from PC12072 (d) and paragraph (l) of subdivision (f)

aeromech
03-05-2010, 11:53 AM
I thought the requirement was that the gun had to be antique and use ammo that's not readily available? Are you saying that something like a Winchester .22 gallery gun made in 1920 is exempt from any FFL requirements?

paul0660
03-05-2010, 11:54 AM
03 means nothing intrastate. It is a federal license allowing the holder to receive old guns across state lines.

ledman
03-05-2010, 12:45 PM
Again...any long gun that is over 50 years old is cash and carry in ca...simple as that. No ffl of any kind is needed...i have a 03 just for buying longguns out of state shipped to my doorstep.

dachan
03-05-2010, 12:47 PM
I thought the requirement was that the gun had to be antique and use ammo that's not readily available? Are you saying that something like a Winchester .22 gallery gun made in 1920 is exempt from any FFL requirements?

What are FFL requirements?

PC12078 (t) (2) exempts C&R long guns from PC12072 (d), the PPT requirements where all firearm transfers in CA must go through a licensed dealer. PC12078 (t) (2) also exempts C&R long guns from PC12072 paragraph (l) of subdivision (f), the 10day waiting period. Hence, C&C; you pay your Cash (to the seller - no dealer involved) and Carry (you walk away with you new-old gun - no 10day wait).

This applies to a firearm that is not a handgun, which is a curio or relic manufactured at least 50yrs prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, so yes you Win mfg in 1920 would be exempt.

Plisk
03-05-2010, 7:50 PM
$35 nothing more.

Depending on the firearm you may be required to purchase a cable lock. Otherwise, not a penny over $35.