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03-04-2010, 12:38 AM
03-04-2010, 12:41 AM
Wow. Thats like do I buy a boat or a car. They are both cool but so different. Id buy one of each.
03-04-2010, 12:59 AM
there are 5 things you should consider: grip size, recoil, style, price, and trigger control
the p229 has a pretty fat grip compared to the 1911, which you would be used to because of your comfort in using glocks. i thought u were comparing p220 to 1911, because they are both single stack and .45 acp. the 1911 has a thin grip, so get your hands on one at a gun store or even better rent it at a range. i like thin grips more, but everyone is different.
if you've never shot 45acp before, the recoil isnt much more than 9mm out of a plastic framed gun, because the steel 1911 is heavier. so the recoil is definately controllable. but the cost of 45 factory ammo is getting insane.
style and price are break even to me. i like both the looks of 1911s and sigs. one is for historical value and the other one is modern tactical. but to me they're equal in terms of looks. the new cost is about the same too, if you get a mid range 1911.
i say the most important thing is the trigger. 1911s are single action, which gives it the sweetest trigger i have fired in any gun. in slow firing my accuracy is okay with any gun but the 1911's shorter trigger and trigger reset make it the most accurate gun for me in rapid firing.
but you shouldnt take my word for it, rent a 1911 at a range !
03-04-2010, 1:03 AM
I will definitely need to get my hands on an 1911! But yes I'm comparing an Sig 229 9mm to an 1911 .45 acp. I do not mind both calibers but prefer to keep it 9mm so the Sig might outweigh a 1911 due to factors such as availability and price. How much do Sig 229's even cost nowadays? I never honestly even considered a Sig until I shot couple of mags through a single stack 220.
03-04-2010, 1:07 AM
Why not buy a Sig and 1911? Sig makes one of the best, and I have shot most all of them including many customs. I have 2 sig P229 .40, I had 3 but gave one to my daughter. Sig is hard to beat. I do wish we could have their 1911 compact in Ca but I doubt that will happen. either way, you will be happy.
03-04-2010, 8:38 AM
I think you should shoot a 1911 first.
With my first semi.. I had to make the same decision. It came down to this: I love how 1911s shoot, I love the way they look.. but when it came down to it... I wanted a gun with 1911-like features but was more modern... meaning more simple internals, field stripping, etc. That's when I looked into Sigs. Aesthetically.. I now enjoy Sigs even more than 1911s. They have pretty much become MY 1911 (ofcourse the hardcore 1911 lovers probably can't see the direct relation.. or agree with it). We all know how well Sigs shoot, so don't need to touch up there. Also.. I almost went with a Sig in .45 when I was making my first decision because I was transitioning off my 1911 love... looking back, I'm glad I changed my mind last minute and went with a 226 instead of a 220. My friend shoots an XD chambered in 45 and glad I don't have to go through the amount of trouble he has to go through just to locate "affordable" ammo. Heck.. I even wish I went with 9mm now vs the .40SW. Probably wouldn't have gotten a .22lr conversion kit if I did.
Ultimately: try a 1911 first. All logic might get thrown out the door because you might just fall THAT much in love with one. If you love shooting one and it brings you joy, well worth the price of admission.
Sig 229 will obviously be easier to control as far as recoil goes. I think the p229 and p220 both feel better in your hand than a 1911 because the grip is wider and curved to meet your palm. the 1911 is narrow and straight and can dig into parts of your hand.
The 1911 has a longer barrel and I find it a little easier to hit targets farther away than with the more compact p229. close range (5-10yrds) though they are both pretty much right on the money for me. The p229 is easier to control with one hand and easier to recover for a second shot.
Depends on what you are looking for. 1911's are generally great for home defense and a lot of people are comfortable carrying them (and should be because they are great). They are single action only so the hammer has to be cocked back to fire, but there is a thumb safety that you can/should engage when you carry it cocked.
p229's are good all around, reliable home defense and more compact for carry. They'r single action or double action so the hammer doesnt have to be back to fire, but no external safety (safety is internal and releases when the trigger is pulled). You are depending on the holster to keep the trigger from engaging.
FYI since you're used to glocks, single action shooting is much smoother and lighter trigger pull than double action. for the 229 i think it's 4.4lbs single action and 10lbs double. pretty big diff
FYI the 1911's I've shot are a Springfield G-1, Springfield Mil-spec, Wilson Combat, Sig Railed. I liked the Sig and the Wilson the best but they all shot great. the wilson had many more features but i personally didnt think the wilson shot 3-4x better for a price 3-4x higher ;)
I plan on getting a P229 first (share with wife), a p220 second (personal :D) and a 1911 last (just for me to have and enjoy). I love 1911's, but the sigs are just more practical for my wife and I
03-04-2010, 1:46 PM
It depends on what exactly you want to do with it and just like everyone else will say you need to go shoot the crap out of 'em before you make a decision but that said i've spent years collecting firearms and until you pick up that 1911 there will always be that hole in your safe that nothing seems to fill...:D
03-04-2010, 1:47 PM
1911 1911 1911
03-04-2010, 2:14 PM
Oh yea, if you do go with the Sig, you can also get it in DAK. Would especially help out if you're used to shooting Glocks. I think at DAK, its a 6.5-7lb trigger.
If you really wanna get the best of both worlds... no.. not going to say get a Sig 1911.. but get a Sig X-Five or X-Six. It'll cost you a pretty penny.. but you'll have a Sig with a long barrel much like a standard 1911.
03-04-2010, 2:32 PM
A PROPERLY made 1911 is one of the best handling and satisfying gun to own, and no other handgun can equate it in ergonomics.
BUT there are myriads of manufacturers of the 1911 and there in lies the key to satisfaction with it----finding a properly made 1911. If you find a properly made 1911 and be able to shoot it, you'll be so happy you will want more:D:D
So I say, get the type of gun that is tested by time and in two World Wars--- the 1911. :)
03-04-2010, 2:37 PM
Several years ago I had to make that same choice. Although it was Sig 228 vs 1911. I went with the Sig and although I have often thought about what if I had gotten the 1911 instead I must say I am very happy with my 228. The deal was simply too good to pass up, and now here several years later I am getting my first 1911, a nicer one than I would have gotten earlier. Pick up is this Sunday :)
I will love my 228 and 1911 equally :tt1:
03-04-2010, 2:39 PM
If you can, try to find the dedicated 9mm P228 instead of a 229
03-04-2010, 2:49 PM
My friend is a Sig addict, has about 7 different Sigs. I am a 1911 addict. I could not hit the broadside of the barn with his Sigs and I shot all of them. Picked up a 1911 or USP and was drilling holes in the 10 ring. My hands are used to the 1911. Thats what I prefer. The Sigs grip was strange and bulky. As mentioned in the last 1911 vs Sig post. Every safe needs a .45 and a 1911, otherwise its not complete. If you enjoy shooting, start reloading, especially .45.
Just pulling prices off the web and using my recipe for 45ACP I was able to get a box of 50 for $6.19 using this website.
03-04-2010, 9:51 PM
Thanks guys, I will be renting a 1911 soon and I will tell you what I think. I have only handled 1911's but not shot them, they feel heavy! And 1911 looks and feel good, but I gota wait until I shoot one, on the other hand I like Sig with no question especially with the wood grips, along with wood grips for an 1911.
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