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LloydXmas250
03-03-2010, 6:00 PM
It's my step-dad's gun. It was his father's before his and he doesn't know much about it as he was never told by his dad. It's labeled on the barrel as a Santa Fe Imperial Mauser SPTR Mod. R-159 Golden State Arms Corp. Pasadena Calif.
I've read about the company being a large importer of military weapons that they would then sporterize but we wanted to know what kind of Mauser it is if he ever had to replace parts or buy a new trigger and such. It's now calibered as a 30-06. I don't have any pictures now but I can post some later, although there aren't really any discernible marks. Thanks for the help.

Trendkill
03-03-2010, 6:15 PM
Argentine...???

berg
03-03-2010, 6:15 PM
I typed the model number into google.com and got this: http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?p=99654

And this with pictures: http://www.auctionarms.com/Search/DisplayItem.cfm?ItemNum=8527395.0
And here with this description: "the Santa Fe is based on a FN Bel. 98 Action." http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=147962026

LloydXmas250
03-03-2010, 7:09 PM
I typed the model number into google.com and got this: http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?p=99654

And this with pictures: http://www.auctionarms.com/Search/DisplayItem.cfm?ItemNum=8527395.0
And here with this description: "the Santa Fe is based on a FN Bel. 98 Action." http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=147962026

That two links with pics are most definitely the same gun. Now, is it possible the could have made their R-159 out of different type Mausers? Or is it going to be that FN Bel. 98 ? And what exactly does that mean? Thanks for the find. I swear google never pulls that kind of info for me. Thanks again.

B Strong
03-03-2010, 7:21 PM
That two links with pics are most definitely the same gun. Now, is it possible the could have made their R-159 out of different type Mausers? Or is it going to be that FN Bel. 98 ? And what exactly does that mean? Thanks for the find. I swear google never pulls that kind of info for me. Thanks again.

It's just a commercial Mauser action - any standard length bolt parts will work, and the trigger is interchangeable between models iirc.

LloydXmas250
03-03-2010, 7:24 PM
It's just a commercial Mauser action - any standard length bolt parts will work, and the trigger is interchangeable between models iirc.

But there is a difference isn't there? A Mauser 98 isn't a Mauser 94 right?

Sailormilan2
03-03-2010, 7:49 PM
Military Mauser 98 that has been scrubbed of markings. Golden State Arms made several types of rifles. Some based on Enfield, some on Mausers. I have one in 300 Win Mag. It started with a 2 groove 1903 Springfield barrel that had been rethreaded to fit a Mauser action. Someone had then rechambered it to 300 Win Mag. But the action was just a standard military action.
I used to have one in a 257 Roberts that was made on a commercial 98 action, that I believe was made by Santa Barbara of Spain.

LloydXmas250
03-03-2010, 8:18 PM
I've noticed that when buying new triggers for it, it has different letters in it. For example there's a M98K and then there's my step-dad's, a M98FN. What does FN mean and does that make them different enough to not use the same parts?

Sailormilan2
03-03-2010, 9:08 PM
Fabrik National.........Belgium made. As in FN FAL, and FN 49, and FN High Power(Browning HiPower). Basically, national arms factory of Belgium, kind of similar to our old Springfield Arsenal.
IIRC, the 98K Mauser had a slightly shortend trigger guard(front to rear) and the trigger was slightly redesigned so that it did not extend as far to the rear as on the original Mausers so as not to hit the rear of the trigger guard. The 98FN may be built to the original specs.
Because of that, a 98k trigger would work with a 98K triggerguard or a 98FN TG, but a 98FN trigger would not work in a 98K TG.
Most of the aftermarket triggers I have seen seem to be built to 98K specs, so that they work on all Mausers.

LloydXmas250
03-04-2010, 12:24 AM
Fabrik National.........Belgium made. As in FN FAL, and FN 49, and FN High Power(Browning HiPower). Basically, national arms factory of Belgium, kind of similar to our old Springfield Arsenal.
IIRC, the 98K Mauser had a slightly shortend trigger guard(front to rear) and the trigger was slightly redesigned so that it did not extend as far to the rear as on the original Mausers so as not to hit the rear of the trigger guard. The 98FN may be built to the original specs.
Because of that, a 98k trigger would work with a 98K triggerguard or a 98FN TG, but a 98FN trigger would not work in a 98K TG.
Most of the aftermarket triggers I have seen seem to be built to 98K specs, so that they work on all Mausers.

Very informative. Thanks a lot. Well they make a Timney trigger labeled for a 98FN so he'll get that one. Thanks again for the help.