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KendalJonah
03-03-2010, 9:42 AM
What pistol, magazine (revolvers included), and round would you want in your hand in a critical situation.

Fishslayer
03-03-2010, 10:02 AM
28-2 S&W .357 wheelgun with .38+P SJHP.

When it absolutely, positively, HAS to go bang.:cool:

SJgunguy24
03-03-2010, 10:06 AM
I trust all of my handguns execpt for my Colt.

bigcalidave
03-03-2010, 10:07 AM
practice practice practice...

Tested and proven defense ammo.

And as much ammo as possible on my person.

Gun doesn't matter if it is reliable and you can shoot it well.

rgs1975
03-03-2010, 10:08 AM
I have two that I trust completely.

S&W 586-7 .357 Magnum w/158 grain Federal Hydra Shok
Glock 36 .45 ACP w/230 grain Federal Hydra Shok

robert101
03-03-2010, 10:09 AM
DW Stainless PM7-10MM with handloaded 155 grain XTP's at 1,250 fps for 538 ft-lbs. They feed great, shoot great and make me feel good.

Oldnoob
03-03-2010, 10:10 AM
My Glock 22, Sig 226, Browning Hi Power.

Bobbar
03-03-2010, 10:20 AM
My glock 19 and 21. Both using federal HST rounds

23 Blast
03-03-2010, 10:22 AM
28-2 S&W .357 wheelgun with .38+P SJHP.

When it absolutely, positively, HAS to go bang.:cool:

I'm a big fan of revos for HD because, when you're awoken in the middle of the night, still groggy from sleep and frightened out of your normal mode of thinking, a simple gun is the best gun. With a double-action revolver, just point and click. No worrying about whether one is in the pipe, no worrying about the magazine being fully seated, no worrying about the safety being disengaged, no worrying about tap rack bang drills.

So yeah- a S&W Model 66 with .38+p JHP is one of my HD guns.

bigcalidave
03-03-2010, 10:27 AM
Nonsense, and if your major concern is how to get off a shot while you're still seeing spiderwebs you will end up in prison. If you can't identify the situation you can't make a shot legally. That said, PLENTY of semis have DAO and no safety if that is your major concern.

rtadlock
03-03-2010, 10:32 AM
Wilson Combat CQB .45 1911
S&W 66 F comp .357

bohoki
03-03-2010, 10:35 AM
anything is better than nothing and if i knew something was going down i would have my registered bulgarian slr-95 ready with east german 30 rounders

DArBad
03-03-2010, 10:36 AM
My Ruger GP100 4 inch stainless .357 magnum revolver, and a couple of Springfield Armory 1911s.

ZombieTactics
03-03-2010, 10:39 AM
Hmmm ... hard choices.

I would take any of the following handguns, with the largest capacity magazines I have:

Ruger SR9, Federal HST
Springfield XD9 or XD40, Federal HST
Glock 17 or 22, Federal HST

nrvnqsrxk
03-03-2010, 10:41 AM
I would say G19, or M&P9, with the Glock being first choice.

23 Blast
03-03-2010, 10:45 AM
Nonsense, and if your major concern is how to get off a shot while you're still seeing spiderwebs you will end up in prison. If you can't identify the situation you can't make a shot legally. That said, PLENTY of semis have DAO and no safety if that is your major concern.

You're right, because a Glock has been described as essentially a double action revolver that happens to be fed from a box magazine, but I did mention the other issues like magazine seating and potential jams. I never mentioned shooting wildly into the darkness of your home. I'm just saying that in a genuine home invasion scenario, your adrenaline will likely be pumping full tilt and your heart racing and your thought process "not in normal mode." So, while training can certainly condition your response to where you might be able to load up empty mags from a box of ammo, insert the mag, rack the slide and make ready all on autopilot, I would still maintain that the fewer steps to execute and perform under stress, the better.

I'm sure you can cite stories of revolvers binding up and otherwise failing, but I'm talking about a revolver kept in a clean, dry place that wouldn't see hardly any abuse.

hnoppenberger
03-03-2010, 10:46 AM
usp 9 with jet funnel 18rounders. more rounds the better.

creampuff
03-03-2010, 11:02 AM
Sig 226, 9mm, 124gr Speer gold dots. Nothing fancy, good enough for me.

Rivers
03-03-2010, 11:14 AM
HK USP .45 or HK P2000sk .40, depending on need for concealment. Winchester Ranger or Federal HST hollow points. Both pistols have proven their trustworthiness over thousands of rounds.

Call_me_Tom
03-03-2010, 11:18 AM
Beretta 92FS/M9

I've already trusted my life to it and it never let me down.

vinny_land
03-03-2010, 11:22 AM
Sig Sauer SP2022 (.40)
MecGar magazine (factory Sig)

Its the only handgun tha I currently own and I've already put ~1200 through it. Only one FTE in the first 200 and flawless since.

drunktank
03-03-2010, 12:10 PM
My USPf 9mm with any of my loads using one of my factory mags.

KendalJonah
03-03-2010, 12:41 PM
I have many firearms concealed in my home. Mossy 500 in the dining room. XD 9mm in the kitchen. Bersa .380 in a spare room. Kimber Tle in my bedroom. The more the better. Easier access in numbers.

KendalJonah
03-03-2010, 2:19 PM
Well to answer your question, I find it a bit akward holstering a firearm while I hold my 1 year old or help my 6 year old with her homework. It might be also be hard to find a holster that are able to be attached to gym shorts (my choice of clothing while at home). But if rocking a holster at your home is your thing, more power to you brother. Thank you.

timmyb21
03-03-2010, 2:21 PM
My current HD setup is my MC operator, M3X light, 10 round CMC Powermag loaded with Federal Hydrashocks. Works flawlessly.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k246/timb117/01mcop.jpg

Ignore my dirty counter, we're moving.

coma
03-03-2010, 2:22 PM
1911 lock and loaded, ammo I have JHP in all my mags but any well placed 45 will do the trick, and I'm pretty good 100 yards and less :43:

Blade
03-03-2010, 3:38 PM
Depends on the situation:

Home Defense: HK USPc w/Winchester Ranger .40
A .45acp may be too much indoors. I don't want to shoot thru dry wall or burglar and hit innocents. .40sw is less noisy so you don't blow your hearing shooting indoors without ear protection.
For SHTF day: Sig P220 Combat JHP .45 (doesnt have to be fancy for .45)
For Zombie Apocolypse: FN 5.7 I can carry 400 rounds in my pocket ez

Clinton
03-03-2010, 3:39 PM
Ignore my dirty counter, we're moving.


Hope you're not moving just because the counter is dirty!



My trust goes into my S&W M&P.40 and Sigma .40. (say what you want about the Sigma, it's been a good pistol)

I'm a little iffy about trusting my Bersa 380.

timmyb21
03-03-2010, 3:48 PM
Hope you're not moving just because the counter is dirty!


I thought that's what you do when your house is dirty, you move to a new one!

ZombieTactics
03-03-2010, 3:50 PM
... you might be able to load up empty mags from a box of ammo, insert the mag, rack the slide and make ready all on autopilot ...
Do you really think this is a typical scenario for semi-auto pistol owners?

tbhracing
03-03-2010, 3:50 PM
Home- Sig P226, 9mm, Golden Saber JHP, 124 grain, hi cap mags.

Travel- Glock 19, Golden Saber JHP, 124 grain, hi cap mags

hawk84
03-03-2010, 3:52 PM
Hope you're not moving just because the counter is dirty!



My trust goes into my S&W M&P.40 and Sigma .40. (say what you want about the Sigma, it's been a good pistol)

I'm a little iffy about trusting my Bersa 380.

ditto on the M&P 40
I've never had it not go bang

I've also never had it malfunction in over 1000 rounds
I trust it

TZL
03-03-2010, 3:54 PM
I trust almost the exact same setup....SA Op MC, CMC powermag+ with Federal HST +P (10 rds) and Streamlight TLR-1.....

My current HD setup is my MC operator, M3X light, 10 round CMC Powermag loaded with Federal Hydrashocks. Works flawlessly.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k246/timb117/01mcop.jpg

Ignore my dirty counter, we're moving.

CornFedWB
03-03-2010, 3:55 PM
Do you really think this is a typical scenario for semi-auto pistol owners?

No, though I did answer my phone and carry on a "one word answer" conversation absolutely unconscious the other night. Strange, never done that one before.

RedFord150
03-03-2010, 4:00 PM
Ruger Speed Six .38 with Remington +P 125 Grain JHP's in the Cylinder.
Ruger GP100 .357 mag with Federal 158 grain JHP's in the Cylinder.
Colt Double Eagle .45 acp with 230 Grain Ball in the magazine.

For me, revolvers never fail. I would take the DA revolver over the semi-auto.

The .380 is a weak round, but I like to have my Bersa around because it conceals easily in a pocket. No failures to date. Cor-Bon DPX in the magazine.

Arteel
03-03-2010, 4:07 PM
Sig P226 in 9mm!

KendalJonah
03-03-2010, 5:51 PM
Its funny how there are "revolver" people and "semi-auto" people. Its like "cat" and "dog" people.

JBird33
03-03-2010, 6:22 PM
I trust my life to my PM9 or G29 every day.

RedFord150
03-03-2010, 6:23 PM
:rofl2: That is hilarious. So that means Semi-auto people are dog people :hide:

My current favorite is my new Dan Wesson PM7 .45. My Bersa .380 is a blast to shoot. I like it as much as .22 pistols.

I would trust my life to a revolver, as asked by the OP. I actually own more semi-autos than revolvers at this moment. Good semi-autos rarely fail. Good revolvers NEVER fail.

Does this make me a revolver guy or a semi-auto guy?

My German Shepherd will tell you I am NOT a cat person ;-).

Stkx66
03-03-2010, 6:45 PM
ditto on the M&P 40
I've never had it not go bang

I've also never had it malfunction in over 1000 rounds
I trust it

M&P 9mm, M&P 40, S & W PPK 380, - All not a single malfunction.
M & P 40 is light and easy to use. I would trust these guns. My Sig 226 after hundreds of rounds fired only one failure to feed...Tula ammo... No doubt I would trust my Sig with appropriate defense ammo or brassed cased for that matter.

Joe
03-03-2010, 6:47 PM
My glock 19 and 21. Both using federal HST rounds

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Glock-matic
03-03-2010, 6:51 PM
Mine, Glock 23 40 S&W 165gr gold dots.

Wife Glock 27 40 S&W 165gr gold dots.

Peter W Bush
03-03-2010, 7:05 PM
6" Python .357
Goes bang and hits the target EVRY SINGLE TIME, period.

For an auto, it would be my 92FS.

Sam
03-03-2010, 7:31 PM
I always keep a Wilson Combat CQB w/Rail close by. I use a Surefire X300 on the rail with lasergrips and Wilson ETM magazines filled with Federal HST.

Triad
03-03-2010, 7:32 PM
My G22 and my Ranger XST rounds. I trust my life to it everyday I go to work.

A close second is my Sig P6...shot placement shot placement and shot placement!

Army GI
03-03-2010, 7:33 PM
I have two:

#1: Ruger GP 100 6" .357 Magnum: Double Tap ammo

#2: Any GI style 1911 .45; regular FMJ

ColdDeadHands1
03-03-2010, 8:12 PM
while I hold my 1 year old or help my 6 year old with her homework.

I noticed you noted you had guns stashed all over the house and you have a 1yo & 6yo. I too had the same scenario, one by the front door, in the entertainment center, kitchen cabinet, etc, etc... But now with two rug rats of my own running around, they are all locked up. My kids are exposed to the joys and dangers of guns (although at 2 & 5, they don't truly understand the implications). The 5yo knows the 4 primary rules, however, can you really trust they will do the right thing when their curiosity kicks in? I don't want to take that chance. The possible outcome is life shattering. Instead, I now have a few of these stashed around:
http://www.gunsafes.com/store/i/is.aspx?path=/Shared/images/Gun%20Vault/MVB500-alt1.jpg
http://www.gunsafes.com/store/i/is.aspx?path=/Shared/images/Gun%20Vault/MVB500-alt2.jpg
I hope you are being safe and the choice is yours to make, but hopefully you will reconsider stashing guns unlocked with kids around.

KendalJonah
03-04-2010, 8:14 AM
I noticed you noted you had guns stashed all over the house and you have a 1yo & 6yo. I too had the same scenario, one by the front door, in the entertainment center, kitchen cabinet, etc, etc... But now with two rug rats of my own running around, they are all locked up. My kids are exposed to the joys and dangers of guns (although at 2 & 5, they don't truly understand the implications). The 5yo knows the 4 primary rules, however, can you really trust they will do the right thing when their curiosity kicks in? I don't want to take that chance. The possible outcome is life shattering. Instead, I now have a few of these stashed around:
http://www.gunsafes.com/store/i/is.aspx?path=/Shared/images/Gun%20Vault/MVB500-alt1.jpg
http://www.gunsafes.com/store/i/is.aspx?path=/Shared/images/Gun%20Vault/MVB500-alt2.jpg
I hope you are being safe and the choice is yours to make, but hopefully you will reconsider stashing guns unlocked with kids around.

Thanks for the visuals. All my firearms and LOCKED and unaccessible to my children. Thanks for your concern and have a nice day.

PatriotnMore
03-04-2010, 8:19 AM
Springfield XD40, Federal HST

^^^
This

23 Blast
03-04-2010, 10:46 AM
LOL - if semi people = dog people and revolver people = cat people, what does that make people who like shotguns or even rifles as HD weapons?

Guess it's sort of true, although I've had both cats and dogs and loved all my pets. Cats/revolvers - low maintenance, can tolerate being neglected, will eat almost anything.

Dogs/semiautos - require more training, can be finicky with different brands of "food," may fail to do what you expect if you ignore and neglect them, and will sometimes bite your hand.

oghl888
03-04-2010, 11:49 AM
Only the ones I've tested thoroughly and recently, which usually means a particular combination of a couple of guns and specific mags tested with them. Even Glocks and Sigs have the occassional failure in my experience, due to various issues. The wear and tear on springs, magazine followers, etc, necessitates replacements or tuning every couple of year or so. Therefore I try to repeat the test every year or so.

I would not trust my SP101 because it developed a hard-to-turn cylinder problems suddenly (as in over a few rounds), and I haven't been able to diagnose the cause yet. I would not trust my 1911s as they seem more prone to problems (though no all the time, more often than other service grade pistols on average).

Just my experience.

q3131a
03-04-2010, 1:23 PM
G21 13+1 mag 230grJHP (Federal HydraShoks, Winchester RangerT, Remington Golden Sabers)

Glock21sfsd
03-04-2010, 1:50 PM
Glock 21 SF I am not to picky about the round I just get what vere is cheapest at walmart. Oh for those that may not know its a .45

Synergy
03-04-2010, 2:04 PM
Any of my 1911's CMC mags and Hornady Tap 200g +p or Ranger SXT 230g

SCMA-1
03-04-2010, 2:26 PM
What pistol, magazine (revolvers included), and round would you want in your hand in a critical situation.

I wouldn't want ANY pistol regardless of caliber in my hand in a "critical" situation quite frankly because all pistol rounds are woefully inadequate fight stoppers. Because it's just too difficult to conceal a 223 entry carbine when out in public, I carry a Glock 22 w/17rd mag +1 loaded with Corbon 135gr JHP+P although I'm very aware that it's a huge compromise. In a critical situation, I'll take any semi-auto rifle over any pistol any day.:cool:

Federalist
03-04-2010, 5:43 PM
I'm a semi-auto guy. However, for HD, I rely on a S&W 686 .357 magnum with Corbon 110 grain JHP rounds. Fewer things can go wrong with a wheel gun than with a semi-auto. If it doesn't go bang the first time, it will be due to a defective round, so all I have to do is pull the trigger again. As for ammo, I selected a round that will have less recoil in case I have to follow up with a second shot. For HD, I can't imagine needing more than six rounds.

The wife has her own small frame S&W .357 magnum with the same rounds.

aklon
03-04-2010, 9:52 PM
What I keep in the bedstand: a Kimber Warrior 2 w/ Streamlight TLR-1, Chip McCormick magazine, CCI Blazer 230gr FMJ.

hyeg35
03-04-2010, 10:21 PM
Glock 22 .40 S&W w/ Glock Tac Light GTL10 using Winchester PDX1 180 Grain Hollow Points.....oh and Domo

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs053.snc3/14095_553935806351_31004408_32136641_1242452_n.jpg

RogueSniper
03-04-2010, 10:32 PM
SIG P226 loaded with 9mm 124gr Hydra Shok
ParaOrd P14.45 loaded with 45ACP 185gr Hornady XTP
Works every time, all the time.

I can't rely on my revolvers. Strange, huh? I've had trouble ejecting the cases in the cylinder during a shooting session. I had to literally press the ejector rod down on the counter to force the ejector star to extract the cases. The cylinder is either dirty or the rounds are too hot and expanding in the cylinder. Better during range practice than when I need it the most.

Omil
03-07-2010, 10:55 PM
What pistol, magazine (revolvers included), and round would you want in your hand in a critical situation.

Primary's a 45's w/hollow-points & extra mags, not much.:19:

tbhracing
03-07-2010, 11:18 PM
I trust both of my SIGs and Glocks (all in 9mm) to do the job- P226, P228 and G17 and G19. Golden Sabers, 124 grain

M47_Dragon
03-07-2010, 11:19 PM
Nightstand: Sig 220R Carry SAO, Winchester Silvertip 185gr HP, Sig factory mags, TLR-1 light.

Other side of bed: SW1911, handloaded 200 gr. JHP, 10 rnd CMC mag.

Home office: S&W M&P 340, Federal Hyra-shok 110gr JHP low recoil.

Big_T
03-08-2010, 3:00 AM
On the nightstand: Gerber 110 lumen flashlight.
In the nightstand: S&W 629 3" barrel loaded half with shot, half with full house .44 mag semi jacketed lead.

ontmark
03-08-2010, 6:53 PM
SIG 226 40S&W, OEM Mag, Speer Gold Dots
SIG P6, OEM Mag, Power-Ball

Sheepdog1968
03-08-2010, 7:22 PM
For me its my Sig P220 in 45 ACP. I've got 9000 rounds through it. During the first 5000 rounds I had three rounds not work properly so I sent the pistol back to Sig. No problem could be found. While there I had them polish some of the surfaces and change out the springs. I haven't had a single round fail to fire or eject in the last 4000 rounds.

As for magazines, I've got two of the factory 8 rounder magazines that I've shot about 600 rounds through without problem. I no longer bring them those two mags the range and use those for home defense.

As for ammo. I've shot lots of stuff and all feeds well. The majority has been Winchester white box. For the home defense ammo, I've shot about 300 rounds of the Ranger STX through it so that's what I used for home defense.

Other things I've done include trying to limp wrist it as much as possible to cause a problem. I couldn't cause a problem no matter how hard I tried. I've also shot the pistol canted at all kinds of angles and have had no problems. I once went somewhere around 1000 rounds without cleaning but continued to lube the rails. Then under this dirty condition I shot the home defense ammo and had no problem.

Its been reliable so I feel confident in its reliability. Given what I've done, I'm disinclined to willy nilly change over to a different pistol for home defense (technicaly its a home back up to a long arm weapon).

The only other weapon I'm considering to vett in a similar manner is a Springfield XD. I'm sure other pistols can perform just as well as my Sig. I just haven't done the testing.

CALevo
03-08-2010, 7:34 PM
my xd 45 tac with cor bon

socalryan
03-08-2010, 11:07 PM
In the nightstand is a Glock 21 with 13+1 (and extra mags) of Remington Golden Saber.

El Gato
03-08-2010, 11:11 PM
Col Jeff Cooper – ”Man fights with his mind. His hands and his weapons are simply extensions of his will, and one of the fallacies of our era is the notion that equipment is the equivalent of force.

having said that... anything of substantial caliber what makes the loud noise when I pull the trigger....

I currently carry a custom 1911 (185gr GS +p) or a glock 20(win silvertips) and a 642 smith(corbon 110 gr) as a #2 and sometimes a colt cobra (corbon 158 gr lswchp) as a #3 gun... but always the 1911 or the glock 20 off duty....
on duty a glock 22 with a surefire 300....180 gr sxt

CalNRA
03-09-2010, 1:50 AM
a basic GI 1911 copy that I have shot the living snot out of and CMC Power Mags. It feeds HPs like nobody's business. after about 5000 round without malfunction I know it will last me another 15000 rounds at least.

(the 5000 count happened prior to 2008, back when ammo was <20 cents for 45ACP)

axhoaxho
03-09-2010, 2:53 AM
Ruger GP100 4" stainless steel, with .38 Specal +P 135g Gold Dot.

It is built like a tank, everyone in the household can handle it with minimum training, and will last my lifetime even without much cleaning.

Regards,

erskatedoc
03-09-2010, 5:20 AM
Mine - Wilson Combat .45 CQB with 230g Winchester Ranger T's

Wife's - Ruger gp100 with .38 Winchester Ranger T's

ireload
03-09-2010, 5:58 AM
GP-100 with .38 spl 125 gr. Golden Sabers +p+.
Beretta FS with 115 grain +p Gold Dots.

CD MCKINNEY
03-09-2010, 4:30 PM
I carry [concealed daily] my Dan Wesson [pre-CZ] PM10-S 10MM, loaded with "Double Tap" 200 gr. "controlled expansion" XTP/JHP's [9+1 @ 1300/705]

Power, accuracy and more power.

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj381/CDMCKINNEY/DSCF0002.jpg

den888
03-09-2010, 5:46 PM
Glock 23, 26 (.40S&W, 9mm), S&W459 (9mm), Colt Combat Commander (.45 ACP)

BunnySlayer
03-09-2010, 6:01 PM
Glock 19
Factory mags
Federal hydra shock 124 grn
Smith and Wesson 1911sc 45.ACP
McCormick shooting star mags
Remington Golden Saber 230 grn hp

And in the safe? Remington 870 w/surefire forend. Tube loaded with #6. Chamber empty.

erratikmind
03-09-2010, 7:04 PM
S&W model 686-6 .357
Glock 23

bsg
03-09-2010, 7:47 PM
w german sig P226; winchester 115 gr silvertips in factory magazine.



-Brady-

Echidin
03-09-2010, 8:20 PM
Glock 17/26, S&W 442, Ruger GP100

Trench Broom
03-09-2010, 11:36 PM
1911A1, Shooting Star mags, Winchester hollow-points.