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frankiejoe577
03-03-2010, 4:04 AM
If you wanted to bring a COLT AR-15 into California what would you have to do to make it legal, the mag is over 10 rounds so I know that the mag can not come into califorina. I know that california does not allow removable mags without tools so a bullet buttion would have to be installed. What else would have to be done to make it CA legal?

dcbiii
03-03-2010, 4:20 AM
Bulletbuttons:
http://riflegear.com/p-470-raddlock-ar-series-magazine-lock-wtwo-position-operation.aspx

When you buy from RifleGear, you're getting a quality vendor and supporter of CalGuns. Or you can stop by their shop in Orange County if they're local--the prices are the same in their retail storefront (SO RARE!) It's a drop-in installation.

As for "California Legal", a lot of the old Colts are "banned by name"...which means if the below model is found inscribed on your lower reciever, the gun is considered an "Assault Weapon". You cannot retroactively register the lower, as the deadline is passed (if it's one of the ones listed below).
http://calnra.com/flowchart/gfx/a2y.gif

If it's listed, separate the lower from the upper (so that it cannot be construed to be a firearm) and purchase a stripped or complete lower. If you're mechanically handy, you can take the parts from the banned lower and put them in your new "OLL" (Off-List Lower), or you can just buy a complete one, and snap it on to your upper and hit the range (AFTER the bullet button installation! :) )

Complete Lower:
http://riflegear.com/p-574-lmt-defender-lower-with-collapsing-stock-and-standard-trigger.aspx

Stripped Lower:
http://riflegear.com/p-681-jd-machine-ar15-stripped-lower-receiver.aspx

frankiejoe577
03-03-2010, 4:36 AM
Is the lower on the banned list Appendix A, Colt AR-15?

Do you know any places that sell a ten round mag for a good price?

dcbiii
03-03-2010, 5:31 AM
Is the lower on the banned list Appendix A, Colt AR-15?

Do you know any places that sell a ten round mag for a good price?

Colt, AR-15 is listed in Appendix A. So unfortunately it is banned.

http://riflegear.com/p-351-magpul-pmag-10-round-20-body-magazine-223556mm.aspx

The P-Mag is pretty much the most popular magazine out there nowadays--Magpul makes great stuff, and you can see guys on the front lines of our nation's armed forces using their products. Some people complain that the magazine is polymer, but if you want, you can get a 30 round magazine "rebuild kit" (a magazine in parts) and rebuild it with Magpul anti-tilt followers, and then rivet or weld the magazine from accepting more than 10 rounds. Easier just to buy them pre-fixed to 10 rounds (in my opinion).

Greg-Dawg
03-03-2010, 5:56 AM
Nope.

B Strong
03-03-2010, 6:10 AM
If you wanted to bring a COLT AR-15 into California what would you have to do to make it legal, the mag is over 10 rounds so I know that the mag can not come into califorina. I know that california does not allow removable mags without tools so a bullet buttion would have to be installed. What else would have to be done to make it CA legal?

Sorry Frankie, the majority of Colt AR type rifles are covered by the Roberti-Roos law, and if it wasn't registered with the state way back when, it can not be legally possessed, with some very narrow exceptions.

dachan
03-03-2010, 9:19 AM
How to make Colt AR-15 legal for CA?

It's actually quite easy, repeal Roberti-Roos; think 14 plus 2.

bohoki
03-03-2010, 11:44 AM
replace the receiver with an "off list" one

remove any assault weapon features or install a bullet button and attach a 10 round magazine

there is the theoretical way of replacing the upper with a .410 unit and a bullet button then it is no longer a listed "assault rifle"(its a shotgun now)but that is flying close to the edge

creampuff
03-03-2010, 11:46 AM
Does Colt still use the larger pin on their upper (0.17" vs 0.154")? Or have they stopped that practice?

dachan
03-03-2010, 12:45 PM
Does Colt still use the larger pin on their upper (0.17" vs 0.154")? Or have they stopped that practice?

They've stopped that practice, as well as the large front pivot pin.

Jeffu
03-03-2010, 2:15 PM
How about a Colt 6940?

aplinker
03-03-2010, 5:54 PM
How about a Colt 6940?

or car a3

or send one to an FFL-07 that can over-write the "Colt" and make it something else.

Ding126
03-03-2010, 6:02 PM
Try US Autoweapons in Scottsdale, Az...They had a few Colt 6921 lowers that were de listed as SBR's w/ BATF

The 6921 models come from the factory and listed as SBR for military & LE and are not listed in Ca.
They were very pricey....8-900.00 if my memory is correct..but if your dead set on a colt lower...then there ya go

Endless
03-03-2010, 6:06 PM
Sorry Frankie, the majority of Colt AR type rifles are covered by the Roberti-Roos law, and if it wasn't registered with the state way back when, it can not be legally possessed, with some very narrow exceptions.

If you are active duty military then you can apply for a weapons permit as long as the rifle is legal in your home of residence. Only downside is you can only have 10 round magazines. Not really a big deal.

When I was stationed down in Alameda I had Colts with 30 round magazines and 100 round drums, they also had "For Law Enforcement/Military only" on them. I wouldnt recommend taking those high capacity magazines to the range. Just shoot with your 10 rounders.

Are you AD?

JimWest
03-04-2010, 5:10 PM
Try US Autoweapons in Scottsdale, Az...They had a few Colt 6921 lowers that were de listed as SBR's w/ BATF

The 6921 models come from the factory and listed as SBR for military & LE and are not listed in Ca.
They were very pricey....8-900.00 if my memory is correct..but if your dead set on a colt lower...then there ya go

Holy Cow! $995? And I don't think any FFL would transfer in.