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zipman5150
03-01-2010, 7:13 PM
OK Ladies and Gents... I am thinking Seriously about a Glock 26 for a CCW gun.. I currently have a Glock 19 for this purpose, But its a little to big... I was thinking about the 26 because its smaller and I could carry a G19 mag as a backup... What else would you recommend??? Preferably 9mm or 45 acp are my calibers of choice....

Desert_Rat
03-01-2010, 7:24 PM
Why not.It's a good gun.I carry a Glock 27,and a SigP229 or a Kel-tec p3at
but I like the Glock fo-tay

Bryan16
03-01-2010, 7:39 PM
I carry a G26 most of the time. However, lately I have found I enjoy going back to the G19 because of the capacity and it's not much harder to conceal especially in the winter months. It feels so much better in my hand too.

If I am not carrying the G26/G19 then I have a Ruger LCR in my front pocket.

ledman
03-01-2010, 7:49 PM
I have a G19, but If I could CCW, I would go for the G27, but thats just me.

den888
03-01-2010, 7:54 PM
Good choice for CCW...

El Gato
03-01-2010, 7:56 PM
OK Ladies and Gents... I am thinking Seriously about a Glock 26 for a CCW gun.. I currently have a Glock 19 for this purpose, But its a little to big... I was thinking about the 26 because its smaller and I could carry a G19 mag as a backup... What else would you recommend??? Preferably 9mm or 45 acp are my calibers of choice....

pretty popular around here...and more controllable than a 27...go for it...

tbhracing
03-01-2010, 8:43 PM
Great idea. If I ever get a CCW gun, it would be the G26.

SwissFluCase
03-01-2010, 9:22 PM
I have one, and it has been very good. I am debating selling it. We would use 33 round magazines in the thing with cheapo Wolf ammo. Never missed a beat. I should probably keep it.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

zipman5150
03-01-2010, 11:42 PM
Ok. I think i will pull the trigger on one tomorrow after work.... thanks all

SJgunguy24
03-02-2010, 8:30 AM
26 with a 10 round mag loaded and a 17+5 for reload.

Sheepdog1968
03-02-2010, 10:43 AM
My understanding is that on the CA CCW, you can list only 4 guns. Of those, either a Glock 26 or 27 would be on my list. That would be driven by the size.

50 Freak
03-02-2010, 1:55 PM
For a CCW, on the CA permit, it lists only 3 lines hence alot of PO chiefs will only allow 3 guns. But there is nothing that limits the number of guns approved, that's left up to the discretion of the PO chiefs.

As to the G26, I would recommend getting a G27 and for a CCW. Hot round in a small package, and if you had to, you could put a 9mm barrel in a G27, but I don't think you can put a 40 cal barrel in a G26.

And on my CCW, I list the G20 (10mm) G27 (40 cal) and a Kahr PM40 (40 Cal).

wrightb
03-02-2010, 2:20 PM
For a CCW, on the CA permit, it lists only 3 lines hence alot of PO chiefs will only allow 3 guns. But there is nothing that limits the number of guns approved, that's left up to the discretion of the PO chiefs.

As to the G26, I would recommend getting a G27 and for a CCW. Hot round in a small package, and if you had to, you could put a 9mm barrel in a G27, but I don't think you can put a 40 cal barrel in a G26.

And on my CCW, I list the G20 (10mm) G27 (40 cal) and a Kahr PM40 (40 Cal).

I can attest to not trusting the 9mm barrel conversion in a real situation, but this is not a bad deal if he wants to train or plink with both 9 and 40. I would not trust my conversion barrel to save my life, I haven't had many problems with it but many of my friends allowed it to jam due to poor grip and cheap ammo. When I'm on the range I can focus on my grip just fine, but I have never been in a position where I needed my gun so I'm not sure how I would handle it then.

someR1
03-02-2010, 2:25 PM
I have the G27. it is PERFECT for CCW because it's super small and lightweight, but I needed to add a mag extension so my pinkie would fit on the grip. If you go subcompact, and have med-large hands, expect to buy mag extensions lol.

now all i need to do is actaully get my CCW:o LOL...that's what I bought this gun for in the 1st place...

BTW- if you plan on stopping somebody in there tracks you need more than a 9mm. My buddy is a medic and see's shyte all the time....like people surviving multiple 9mm blasts to the chest....

dodgerfan175
03-02-2010, 2:27 PM
My list:

G36 .45
G27 .40
Kimber CDP Ultra .45

I use Minotaur IWB holsters for all three.

The G27 & Kimber are fine guns but I keep reaching for the G36 most of the time.

justin_5585
03-02-2010, 3:07 PM
For a CCW, on the CA permit, it lists only 3 lines hence alot of PO chiefs will only allow 3 guns. But there is nothing that limits the number of guns approved, that's left up to the discretion of the PO chiefs.

As to the G26, I would recommend getting a G27 and for a CCW. Hot round in a small package, and if you had to, you could put a 9mm barrel in a G27, but I don't think you can put a 40 cal barrel in a G26.

And on my CCW, I list the G20 (10mm) G27 (40 cal) and a Kahr PM40 (40 Cal).

Not trying to threadjack too bad, but how do you like the Kahr in comparison to your G27?

Greg-Dawg
03-02-2010, 3:31 PM
I carry my Glocks everywhere that's legal to carry concealed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/1-31-10009.jpg

Get a Glock Fotay.

wrightb
03-02-2010, 3:31 PM
I carry my Glocks everywhere that's legal to carry concealed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/1-31-10009.jpg

Get a Glock Fotay.

I hate seeing your posts, always making me regret not getting the OD

Greg-Dawg
03-02-2010, 3:35 PM
Don't hate, congratulate:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/40SW31rounder003jpg.jpg

glockman19
03-02-2010, 4:31 PM
I have 3 primary carry guns S&W 442/642, Glock 26 and Kimber Ultra. For me this covers any situarion I might need in .38, 9mm and .45ACP.

The S&W j-frame is always a trigger pull away, the Glock 26 never has a round chambered and the .45 is always locked and loaded.

SJgunguy24
03-02-2010, 4:36 PM
I can attest to not trusting the 9mm barrel conversion in a real situation, but this is not a bad deal if he wants to train or plink with both 9 and 40. I would not trust my conversion barrel to save my life, I haven't had many problems with it but many of my friends allowed it to jam due to poor grip and cheap ammo. When I'm on the range I can focus on my grip just fine, but I have never been in a position where I needed my gun so I'm not sure how I would handle it then.

There is a way to convert a 27 to 9mm and be 100% reliable. You swap uppers and change the ejector and mags. That is one reason why I'm a Glock fan.

Doheny
03-02-2010, 4:41 PM
My understanding is that on the CA CCW, you can list only 4 guns. Of those, either a Glock 26 or 27 would be on my list. That would be driven by the size.

FWIW, there is no "state" limit to how many guns and be on your permit. The application and the actual form have room for three guns, so that's what people (and most issuing agencies) assume the limit is. Most issuing agencies limit you to three, some only allow one or two and some will let you carry as many as can be listed on the back of the permit.

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wrightb
03-02-2010, 4:47 PM
There is a way to convert a 27 to 9mm and be 100% reliable. You swap uppers and change the ejector and mags. That is one reason why I'm a Glock fan.

I had researched that, but the cost of the slide was getting so close to the purchase of a whole new glock for me that I just couldn't justify it. I did use 9mm mags though, definitely wouldnt use a 40 mag for the 9mm rounds

ledman
03-02-2010, 5:04 PM
Don't hate, congratulate:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/40SW31rounder003jpg.jpg

Your picture, is now my wallpaper!
Nice illegall HI CAP MAGS....JOKING!!!:D
lol...after all the posts I have seen lately about it being illegal to own/possess/use hi cap mags in CA, I could not resist.

Very nice Glock. Wish I would have gotten the OD on my G19.:mad:

Echidin
03-02-2010, 6:43 PM
Glock 26 is a great choice for CCW.

Although I do not currently have a CCW, I do own a G26. Almost got rid of it, but now I'm actually glad I didn't. I would have really regretted it.

audiophil2
03-02-2010, 6:57 PM
I went from a Charter Arms .38 to a Glock 26 for CCW and could not be happier. I was never a Glock fan and tried both a G17 and G19 but hated them both. I carry 12+1 with 2 G17 backup mags.
I considered many guns prior to the G26 and it was my final choice.

SJgunguy24
03-02-2010, 8:50 PM
I had researched that, but the cost of the slide was getting so close to the purchase of a whole new glock for me that I just couldn't justify it. I did use 9mm mags though, definitely wouldnt use a 40 mag for the 9mm rounds

True, but no DROS or paperwork swapping uppers. The state steals enough money.

50 Freak
03-02-2010, 9:02 PM
Not trying to threadjack too bad, but how do you like the Kahr in comparison to your G27?

My three guns I picked for my CCW are picked for a specific reason.

My G20 (10mm), that's for if I feel like I need to go armed for bear, there isn't much out there that can take a hot 10mm and survive. This is my "backpacking" gun

My G27 (40cal) is for my everyday carry. Big (in comparison to the PM40), but I trust it and in over 3,000 rounds, it's had once jam (was using cheapy reloads).

My Kahr PM40 (40cal) is my "tuxedo gun". Its for when I go out dressed up in say like a suit, and a G27 is just too big. A PM40 in a under the shirt chest holster is almost invisible.

The PM40 is finicky about mags and I don't trust it 100% of the time as I do with my Glocks, but it's a little fireball and will do the job quickly at close ranges, I don't even bother aiming with that thing, as I figure it's a gun for engagements of 10 feet or less.

Bryan16
03-02-2010, 10:24 PM
BTW- if you plan on stopping somebody in there tracks you need more than a 9mm. My buddy is a medic and see's shyte all the time....like people surviving multiple 9mm blasts to the chest....

There have also been plenty of people killed with a single shot from a 9mm. I don't ever feel underpowered with my G19 and 16 rounds of HST 147gr +P.

Doheny
03-02-2010, 10:34 PM
I don't ever feel underpowered with my G19 and 16 rounds of HST 147gr +P.

Gee, I hope not! ;)

Bryan16
03-02-2010, 10:38 PM
lol

advocatusdiaboli
04-03-2010, 7:38 PM
I have a table of lethality for pistol calibers and the stats are interesting to say the least--of course they are subjective but by Chuck Hawks. 9mm and 40S&W are close: 9mm has 83-91% one-shot lethality with JHP HV rounds and the 40S&W has 89-94%. Essentially you pays your money and you takes your chance: with 9mm 83 to 91 out of 100 BGs will die first shot but with 40 S&W 89 to 94 out of 100 will. 10mm is 92% and 45ACP is 94% Make of it what you will.

bsg
04-03-2010, 7:59 PM
go for it....

-Brady-

caoboy
04-03-2010, 8:20 PM
IF you want a 45acp, go with a 30 over a 36. A little fatter, but the factory mags are 10 rounds, and can use the 21 mags, so you can use some pre-bans if you have them.

A 36 only holds 6 rounds, and you can't use the 21/36 mags because it's singlestack.

goathead
04-03-2010, 8:25 PM
26 is cool

elSquid
04-03-2010, 8:38 PM
I have a table of lethality for pistol calibers and the stats are interesting to say the least--of course they are subjective but by Chuck Hawks. 9mm and 40S&W are close: 9mm has 83-91% one-shot lethality with JHP HV rounds and the 40S&W has 89-94%. Essentially you pays your money and you takes your chance: with 9mm 83 to 91 out of 100 BGs will die first shot but with 40 S&W 89 to 94 out of 100 will. 10mm is 92% and 45ACP is 94% Make of it what you will.

Probably best to ignore Marshall and the "One Shot Stop" stats. There are many reasons why, but the best one is that stats don't mean what you think they do. Marshall excluded all shootings where there was more than one hit to the torso.

So the scenario where the good guy shoots the bad guy once, the bad guy doesn't stop, and the good guy keeps shooting? Ignored.

That pretty much invalidates everything. :shrug:

-- Michael

advocatusdiaboli
04-03-2010, 10:30 PM
Probably best to ignore Marshall and the "One Shot Stop" stats.

Yep. Figured as much. Hard to really tell at all. The Seals went to .45 and now back to 9mm. Why? Who knows? Was it that lethality was similar? Was it standardization with the NATO round? Do they figure they are better trained to use it more effectively than most? Economics? I have to believe they wouldn't sacrifice their mission capability. Maybe we make too much of calibers? I do know Force = 1/2 * m * v * v so velocity trumps mass by a square--which is why the little bitty .223 kicks it in the 5.56 round. And why the .40S&W packs a lot more punch than the 9mm. The .45 is slower but more mass than both. I guess there really isn't an equation to give you an answer that is also right--you are dealing with a wide variability in circumstances, targets, accuracy, etc., etc. What really counts is (paraphrasing the Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forest) your getting the mostest lead where it will do the mostest damage the fastest firstest. All the rest is just internet forum talk and idle speculation. A 12 gauge with 00 buckshot is just 12 .22LRs pointing along the same line and fired all together at once ;-).

elSquid
04-03-2010, 11:22 PM
I do know Force = 1/2 * m * v * v so velocity trumps mass by a square--which is why the little bitty .223 kicks it in the 5.56 round.

Actually, kinetic energy is mv^2/2. Force is something different. An engineer can't let that one slide. ;)

Energy is the ability to do work. Whether and how that ability is realized is another story.

I guess there really isn't an equation to give you an answer that is also right--you are dealing with a wide variability in circumstances, targets, accuracy, etc., etc.

Yup. It's not rational to come up with a simplistic equation and expect it to generate meaningful results to a very complex issue.

All the rest is just internet forum talk and idle speculation.

There's nothing wrong with internet forum talk and idle speculation. Heck, it beats watching TV!:D

-- Michael

Ranger20
04-03-2010, 11:48 PM
Id trust myself with the G26....
I also do now with the G36.

advocatusdiaboli
04-04-2010, 7:48 AM
Actually, kinetic energy is mv^2/2. Force is something different.

Of course you are right and I should know better having taken dynamics 29 years ago in engineering school--we just don't use it much in software engineering unless we're doing physics models for gaming or a UI.

40S&W and 9mm will be my main pistol calibers. I like 40S&W's power but there might be a scenario where 9mm's ubiquity might mean it's the only thing you can get if you run out of 40S&W. My biggest challenge is figuring out which manufacturer to use between SIG, HK, Beretta, and Glock--leaning toward Glock because if it's elegant design and simple efficiency and reliability. But I sure like SIG and HK feature like de-cocking, hammers (but not for small carry especially concealed). SIG as well-made and I like the idea of easily switching calibers, but the DA trigger pulls are problematic on the models I looked at. HK is pricey for what you get. The Beretta PX4 Storm looks cool but is too new to know for sure and not on the Cal list in the sub-compact anyway.

I'll probably go with the Glock 26 and 19 and get conversion kits for 22LR but I have the nagging feeling the SIG conversion kits are better made and more accurate. Anyone know?

elSquid
04-04-2010, 12:30 PM
Of course you are right and I should know better having taken dynamics 29 years ago in engineering school--we just don't use it much in software engineering unless we're doing physics models for gaming or a UI.

29 years ago? You are an old guy! I finished my degree ~20 years ago. ;)

And I've never had to use it in my software engineering career either. I just trot that archived knowledge out for the odd internet post.

:D

-- Michael

only10x
04-04-2010, 10:20 PM
dura coat give you the same result?

Your picture, is now my wallpaper!
Nice illegall HI CAP MAGS....JOKING!!!:D
lol...after all the posts I have seen lately about it being illegal to own/possess/use hi cap mags in CA, I could not resist.

Very nice Glock. Wish I would have gotten the OD on my G19.:mad:

hill billy
04-05-2010, 6:08 AM
A 12 gauge with 00 buckshot is just 12 .22LRs pointing along the same line and fired all together at once ;-).

Uhhmm. No.

I had a 26, sold it and just recently bought another as my suit gun. I wear it when the gun really needs to be hidden.

Rudolf the Red
04-05-2010, 8:21 AM
00 buck is .33 and weighs 54 grains. That does not describe a .22 bullet. I am sure the FPS is higher alsp.