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1 SIG fan
02-28-2010, 6:55 PM
First off I'm a pretty big Sig mark. I've been eyeing the railed stainless SIG 1911. I'm not overally nostalgic but do enjoy fine firearms. I have a few 220's, a 229, etc.

So, is a 220 way different then a 1911? Is the 1911 takeapart nightmare not worth the hassle if i'm happy with my 220's? I'd hate to be missing out on one if it should be in the colletcion, but do HATE duplicate's that do the same thing (the 220's are interchangable home SD for ammo and mags).

Thanks!

Rekrab
02-28-2010, 7:00 PM
My dad bought the Sig 1911 railed stainless and really likes it. But he also waits as long as he can between cleanings. Compared to his 226, it's a nightmare.

Personally, I don't think it's too bad now the I've been doing it for a while.

Colt-45
02-28-2010, 7:02 PM
"Do I need a 1911?"

Yes you do. :43:

BIGCHRIS
02-28-2010, 7:05 PM
I really think my 1911 field strips easier then my 229. Just like anything though after a few times of doing it, it will become 2nd nature. I would not let that stop you from buying one.

IrishPirate
02-28-2010, 7:12 PM
everyone needs a 1911....why would you even ask that???? ;)

rgs1975
02-28-2010, 7:16 PM
everyone needs a 1911....why would you even ask that???? ;)

+1, although there are much better choices out there than the Sig 1911s

happy_gunner
02-28-2010, 7:22 PM
everyone needs a 1911....why would you even ask that???? ;)

+1
who doesn't :D

Cokebottle
02-28-2010, 7:24 PM
"Do I need a 1911?"

Yes you do. :43:
No... Check with Louiscamaro....


You don't need one.






You need 12 :D

Ducman
02-28-2010, 7:39 PM
No... Check with Louiscamaro....


You don't need one.






You need 12 :D


What he said :D

Swift Justice
02-28-2010, 7:42 PM
The question isn't "do I need a 1911?", the question should be "Why don't you have a 1911 yet?"

1 SIG fan
02-28-2010, 7:43 PM
+1, although there are much better choices out there than the Sig 1911s

For obvious reasons... it'd be a sig. I bought a glock 4 months ago, and keep bumping it back in dros line for my other sigs. So, i rekon it'd be a sig 1911. Kimber's etc... are nice but... Unless they'res a good reason NOT to on sig.


Thanks for the input guys. 12 1911's.. wouldn't that be 22932 :D

qbi2001
02-28-2010, 7:44 PM
It can't be called a collection without at least one 1911 in it. So yes you need at least one, but you will want far more than just one.

gunrun45
02-28-2010, 7:56 PM
I own both as well as H&K USP's, Ruger P90's, para's (a 1911 style gun), etc... There is not so much as a "need" as there is a "want".

Shoot a freinds or rent one at a range. That usually makes up your mind for you ;)

Blackhawk556
02-28-2010, 7:57 PM
asking if you need a 1911 is like asking "do I need air?"

of course you do:mnl:

Colt-45
02-28-2010, 8:02 PM
Why have 1 when you can have 45 45's :D



http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6882/003a.jpg

bayarea1911
02-28-2010, 8:05 PM
y the brand myopia? i think you can get much better 1911's for the same money (last time i looked the sig was around $1000) fit and finish on the sig is OK. just make sure you look at some other just for comparison...kimber, springfield ect. in the end if sig still turns you on then jump on it.

oh yeah....yes you do need a 1911, not having one is like a tool box without a screwdriver ;)

Cokebottle
02-28-2010, 8:06 PM
Why have 1 when you can have 45 45's
Good thing you're not into S&W 500's :D

Blackhawk556
02-28-2010, 8:18 PM
[QUOTE=FNH5-7;3884094]Why have 1 when you can have 45 45's :D


:eek::eek::eek::eek:

dude, can we be friends? we'll go shooting and hunting:D

swerv512
02-28-2010, 8:19 PM
i got to handle a GSR that felt super comfy in my hand. have you checked any out yet...

El Gato
02-28-2010, 8:21 PM
.45....what else is there to say...

MarioS
02-28-2010, 8:59 PM
As others have said, don't let the takedown procedure turn you off to the 1911 design. After doing it once or twice, you just get used to it, no big deal. It's still not as easy as taking apart a Glock or Sig but it's a pretty negligible issue especially if you have a reliable gun.

Cokebottle
02-28-2010, 9:13 PM
As others have said, don't let the takedown procedure turn you off to the 1911 design. After doing it once or twice, you just get used to it, no big deal. It's still not as easy as taking apart a Glock or Sig but it's a pretty negligible issue especially if you have a reliable gun.
I haven't done a complete teardown on my RIA yet, but I've already field stripped it twice... no tools needed (including the barrel bushing).

It's no harder than my XD9.

Bobotheclown
02-28-2010, 9:16 PM
1911s aren't that hard to take down and reassemble after a couple times. I can pretty much take apart my RIA tactical, minus mainspring housing, using a magazine and the parts of the gun itself.

robert101
02-28-2010, 9:16 PM
If you have an interest in hand guns then you need a 1911. For instance, we all have a watch right? A Timex with quartz movement will keep great time at a heck of a cheap price. But, try a Rolex, Patek Philippe, or maybe a TAG Heuer. They all (watches) perform a function, but some brands with their crystal lens, self-winding perpetual movement, all steel cases, elite craftsmanship, and tight manufacturing tolerances make it more that just a watch -- It becomes a time-piece.

The same is true for me in the 1911 style. It is more than a gun as it becomes a "combat weapon" that deserves higher praise and respect. This explaination was problably more than what you bargined for, but, yea some of us are a little particular about the heratige that goes back to 1910. Yea, I realize I wrote 1910 in lieu of 1911.

Notblake
02-28-2010, 9:31 PM
If you have an interest in hand guns then you need a 1911. For instance, we all have a watch right? A Timex with quartz movement will keep great time at a heck of a cheap price. But, try a Rolex, Patek Philippe, or maybe a TAG Heuer. They all (watches) perform a function, but some brands with their crystal lens, self-winding perpetual movement, all steel cases, elite craftsmanship, and tight manufacturing tolerances make it more that just a watch -- It becomes a time-piece.

The same is true for me in the 1911 style. It is more than a gun as it becomes a "combat weapon" that deserves higher praise and respect. This explaination was problably more than what you bargined for, but, yea some of us are a little particular about the heratige that goes back to 1910. Yea, I realize I wrote 1910 in lieu of 1911.


This is a really good explanation of why we all love and want 1911's. I was trying to come up with a good analogy but you hit the nail on the head.

psango
02-28-2010, 10:33 PM
Minimum compliment of 1911's would be 3: .45. .38 Super, 9mm (one for each hand and a spare) :)

IrishPirate
02-28-2010, 10:57 PM
I say go for a sig 1911.....Platinum Elite :drool5:

twotap
02-28-2010, 11:10 PM
You can't know what is heaven
Till you own a 1911

chickenfried
02-28-2010, 11:11 PM
"1911 takeapart nightmare" :confused:

twotap
02-28-2010, 11:19 PM
I'm not a poet and I know it .I just feel it is not just a weapon but an experence.History you could own and shoot today in into the future.
The only tool needed for strip/clean is the magizine or a bullet to take off the barrel bushing.

anothergunnut
03-01-2010, 6:23 AM
I wouldn't exclude a gun just because it was more difficult to field strip than a Sig; that would exclude most guns other than revolvers. 1911 types are not that difficult to field strip, just watch a couple videos so you can avoid the "idiot mark".

Gem1950
03-01-2010, 8:22 AM
Nobody needs a 1911. For quality, reliability and simplicity you can't beat a Sig, but in the .45 acp you can't beat the 1911 platform. With 50+ parts the 1911 is not for the faint hearted. Unless of course you're going to have someone else take care of your pistol for you. That said, I believe that it's easier to take (fully) down and reassemble the 1911 than the Ruger standard .22 semi-auto pistol.

Gem1950
03-01-2010, 8:22 AM
Nobody needs a 1911. For quality, reliability and simplicity you can't beat a Sig, but in the .45 acp you can't beat the 1911 platform. With 50+ parts the 1911 is not for the faint hearted. Unless of course you're going to have someone else take care of your pistol for you. That said, I believe that it's easier to take (fully) down and reassemble the 1911 than the Ruger standard .22 semi-auto pistol.

evidens83
03-01-2010, 8:40 AM
It aint a gun safe unless it has a 1911 in it ;)

robert101
03-01-2010, 2:52 PM
I'll add to that and say you don't need a gun safe until you have a 1911 to put in it...........

Stoopy
03-01-2010, 4:30 PM
The first gun I bought was a sig 1911. I love it and will never sell it. I might give it to my son if I ever have a son.

Cokebottle
03-01-2010, 5:36 PM
Nobody needs a 1911.
Heathen :p

Ducman
03-01-2010, 5:41 PM
The first gun I bought was a sig 1911. I love it and will never sell it. I might give it to my son if I ever have a son.


Hi DAD !!! :D

dakobster81
03-01-2010, 5:44 PM
yes u need one, i hear that a sig isnt the one to get however

Synergy
03-01-2010, 6:42 PM
Try to look on here for reviews and how to compare good 1911's. As mentioned there are a lot of differences between the manufactures. If any friends or local CGN members are 1911 addicts get with them to give you a down and dirty lesson on fit, finish and quality. A Rock Island is a 1911, but not the same class as a Wilson 1911. For the price you cant beat a RIA for a entry level, or even a SA GI to cut your teeth on. Kimber is good if you can find a used Series I, Sig I am not a fan of for their 1911's. That's just my opinion.

Check out:
http://m1911.org/
http://forums.1911forum.com/

Beelzy
03-01-2010, 8:41 PM
To own firearms and none being a 1911, is akin to being a man and having only
one testicle......just not complete. LOL!!

A 1911 is a MUST have for any firearms aficionado. The SIG for what it's worth is a nice 1911 format to choose.
I enjoy mine a lot, and the only gripe I have is that SIG's mags won't feed full mags of CorBon JHP's. (only 6 max).

thomasanelson
03-02-2010, 8:08 AM
1911, yes!
Sig 1911? No! (IMHO) Why not get a good one? Kimber, Springfield, S&W, Colt, Paraordnace, etc., etc. etc.

The Blind Gunman
03-02-2010, 9:03 AM
hell yes you do!
everyone needs at least one!

you might want to consider a colt or sa for the 1911..

check out my friends for sale here and now..
its a real gem..

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=273895

good luck on your first 1911 puchase..

This is really good advice. The first time I went to a shooting range I tryed out a series of different hand guns from .22, 9mm, and the .45.

I really enjoyed shooting the .22 and the .45 so I am planing on buying a .22 after my one month limitation is over.

I went to a gun store and tried holding a few different 1911's and found that the Springfield Armory G.I. was the right fit for my hands and for my budget. It's a much better feel then the .45 I rented at the gun range. So chances are if you rent a gun its going to be a base gun or probably under $500. ---- Sure the one I bought is a base gun but it felt so much better then the one I tried out on the range plus its a closely relation construction of the 1911 which was made for WWI/WWII.

1 SIG fan
03-02-2010, 9:16 AM
Hi DAD !!! :D

LOL

1 SIG fan
03-02-2010, 9:21 AM
1911, yes!
Sig 1911? No! (IMHO) Why not get a good one? Kimber, Springfield, S&W, Colt, Paraordnace, etc., etc. etc.

any fact or just opinion? I've read lots and it seems to be preference but all in all the Sig is good, not the BEST but a good value considering all the custom (non MIM parts) ((i think)) and things like the 20 lines per inch checkering on the front strap isn't found till more expensive 1911's.

why the brand myopia? why not. It hasn't failed me yet.. I like my trucks Ford, my guns Sig, and my Women.. well, alive is my main constraint.:)

Fishslayer
03-02-2010, 9:23 AM
Yes you do. Two things everybody needs. A .357 wheelgun & a 1911 in .45ACP.

Surprised everybody doesn't know this...:cool:

aklon
03-02-2010, 10:49 AM
"Do I need a 1911?"

Using John Moses Browning as His instrument, God created the 1911 pistol as His gift to a free American People.

You owe it to yourself to get one.

Jerm
03-02-2010, 11:24 AM
Yes you do. Two things everybody needs. A .357 wheelgun & a 1911 in .45ACP.

Surprised everybody doesn't know this...:cool:

You are correct there a 357 revolver and a 1911 two of the must own handguns! And I would add that the wheel gun should be a S&W and the 1911 there are many quality guns available I have a springfield Mil spec but I am soon to be in the market for either one that has been customized for match shooting or one to customize.

23 Blast
03-02-2010, 4:04 PM
As others have said, don't let the takedown procedure turn you off to the 1911 design. After doing it once or twice, you just get used to it, no big deal. It's still not as easy as taking apart a Glock or Sig but it's a pretty negligible issue especially if you have a reliable gun.

I have never understood why some people say the 1911 is difficult to disassemble. You just follow the instructions in the manual, and voilą, your 1911 is field stripped. I never felt like it was particularly difficult to take down or reassemble.

Perhaps because I cut my teeth on surplus rifles, for which takedown and disassembly was a fairly involved process, with numerous screws, pins, and springs that needed to be removed, that disassembling a 1911 was a piece of cake by comparison.

Still, even next to the dirt simple field stripping procedures of say, a Beretta or Sig, the 1911 still isn't terribly complicated, IMO.

Now a Ruger Mark II! :mad: I STILL have trouble remembering the reassembly procedure for that bugger!!!

1 SIG fan
03-03-2010, 5:52 PM
10 day started today.... Went with the stainless railed 1911 SIG... Thanks for all the help CG'ers.

wilson_wwsc
03-03-2010, 6:12 PM
even I need a 1911.

rromeo
03-04-2010, 6:24 AM
I obviously need a 1911. My buddy knows I'm a gunhead, last week he gave me 4 mags and about 100 rounds. I can't let that stuff go to waste now, can I?

Rob85
03-04-2010, 12:30 PM
"Do I need a 1911?"

Yes you do. :43:

+100

DArBad
03-04-2010, 1:47 PM
10 day started today.... Went with the stainless railed 1911 SIG... Thanks for all the help CG'ers.

Congratulation on the purchase!!!!

23 Blast
03-04-2010, 4:25 PM
I obviously need a 1911. My buddy knows I'm a gunhead, last week he gave me 4 mags and about 100 rounds. I can't let that stuff go to waste now, can I?

LOL - what your buddy did is akin to a drug dealer giving you your first hit "for free." pretty soon you'll be hooked on 1911's. The only known cure is to send me all of them. :D

thomasanelson
03-06-2010, 9:31 AM
any fact or just opinion? I've read lots and it seems to be preference but all in all the Sig is good, not the BEST but a good value considering all the custom (non MIM parts) ((i think)) and things like the 20 lines per inch checkering on the front strap isn't found till more expensive 1911's.

why the brand myopia? why not. It hasn't failed me yet.. I like my trucks Ford, my guns Sig, and my Women.. well, alive is my main constraint.:)

Just opinion.....of what I have read on Sigforum about all the problems. And, no I do not have any personal experience to back up my opinion...and judging from my comments about the Sig1911, it is unlikely I ever will. :D

mls343
03-06-2010, 10:41 AM
You do not need a 1911, you need multiple 1911's.

1 SIG fan
03-16-2010, 11:45 AM
Thanks All, got it... just haven't shot it. Took me 10min to put back together. Too scared of scratch to push the takedown lever past the detent. Got the trick now.. Oh, yeah, I lOVE the trigger.
http://www.ssvworks.com/sitebuilder/images/1911-a-600x450.jpg

just kidding... I Promise it'll never have that on there again, just HAD to for fun:)

http://www.ssvworks.com/sitebuilder/images/1911a-600x450.jpghttp://www.ssvworks.com/sitebuilder/images/1911b-600x450.jpg

wamphyri13
03-16-2010, 2:01 PM
"Do I need a 1911?"

No. You do not need a 1911. You are required to own one, though.
Ryan

Black Majik
03-16-2010, 2:02 PM
"Do I need a 1911?"

No. You do not need a 1911. You are required to own one, though.
Ryan

I like this answer the best. :thumbsup:

kidrice
03-16-2010, 2:24 PM
I've been thinking about getting a 1911. I was kinda scared about take down and cleaning. The other scary thing is the price ranges.

Would you trade a USP45 for a 1911?

civilsnake
03-16-2010, 2:34 PM
I've been thinking about getting a 1911. I was kinda scared about take down and cleaning. The other scary thing is the price ranges.

Would you trade a USP45 for a 1911?

Not unless you dislike your USP. No point in trading away something you like.

Stripping a 1911 is not at all difficult. You'll figure it out in a couple minutes and it will be easy from then on. As for price ranges, you'll find you typically get what you pay for. An RIA GI will totally shoot. It just won't have night sights, a beavertail, match trigger, etc. I will in all likelihood get one myself in the next year.

nrvnqsrxk
03-16-2010, 2:40 PM
I've been thinking about getting a 1911. I was kinda scared about take down and cleaning. The other scary thing is the price ranges.

Would you trade a USP45 for a 1911?

I would keep the USP and just save up for a 1911. Do you have big hands? Does the gun work for you? The USP has the ergonomics of the 1911 with improved magazine capacity (unless you carry the 1911 with 10 round mags.). It is, however, a DA/SA gun. Some advocate that having one consistent trigger pull all the time is best, while others debate that with enough practice, the deficiencies can be overcome.

If finances are tough for you and you're limited to one gun, think about it this way. The 1911 is famous for it's light trigger, single-action simplicity, cock'n'locked carry for fast deployment, slim profile (makes it easy to CCW for larger individuals), low bore height, and ability to be customized to the user. The downsides are being vigilant when it comes to maintenance and oiling, and smaller magazine capacity (moot point in california). USP is a little more reliable, but is double action, has a higher bore height, and is harder to grip for those with smaller hands.

Sam
03-16-2010, 9:44 PM
Why have 1 when you can have 45 45's :D



http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6882/003a.jpg

holy crap...

Do you have the make and model of all of those?

Tim0s002
03-17-2010, 8:33 AM
ive owned a G19 (which i still love and will always keep) for a long time and that was my only gun, but my bro introduced me to 1911 and now i have 4. i should stop buying them but theyre so sweet. gotta have at least 1 1911 in your arsenal.

1 SIG fan
03-17-2010, 8:37 AM
I do now. Thx

wamphyri13
03-17-2010, 2:43 PM
holy crap...

Do you have the make and model of all of those?

Yeah, I do.
1911 by....everyone.
Ryan