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xxsleepyxx
02-25-2010, 11:04 PM
I was considering CCW options for my son who is getting bullied in school. Which handgun has more POWER. A 32 out of the Beretta Tomcat or a 22 Magnum out of the NAA Mini Revolver. I'm guessing the 32 is more but is it SUBSTANTIAL?

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/images/Tom_cat/beretta_tomcat_boxed_3.jpg

http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/naa_mini_22mag.jpg

I'm just kidding this gun is going to be for me. But yea what you guys think? I don't think I'm going to be fighting any gang wars so I think these are just some insurance type weapons.

Dutch Schultz
02-25-2010, 11:06 PM
Bahaha, you got me good. I was like... Damn you really trust your kid, and "wtf is he thinking" at the same time. Sorry I can't help, I've never shot anything smaller than 9mm.

El Gato
02-25-2010, 11:08 PM
I say feed the kid bean cheese burritos and give him a lighter....bend over and fire/burn/fart/etc......that'll set em on fire and keep him safe from miscreants...:cool:...buy the pants at Kmart/walmart...easier and cheaper to replace when he has to "fire" with his pants on....


Oh...buy the .32 ... just remember it doesn't have an extractor so malfunction drill go as follows:... fire...jam...tap/rack/jam the gun... throw the thing down... draw the 1911....fix the problem...:cool2:

professorhard
02-25-2010, 11:09 PM
.32 and yes it is somewhat substantial but in reality you should carry a .380 at the minimum. 9mm or above would be best

someR1
02-25-2010, 11:10 PM
I was considering CCW options for my son who is getting bullied in school. Which handgun has more POWER. A 32 out of the Beretta Tomcat or a 22 Magnum out of the NAA Mini Revolver. I'm guessing the 32 is more but is it SUBSTANTIAL?



I'm just kidding this gun is going to be for me. But yea what you guys think? I don't think I'm going to be fighting any gang wars so I think these are just some insurance type weapons.
.22 is not very powerful or lethal. I would look into a sub compact .40 or 9mm .... i love my glock 40 sub-compact...it's light weight, small, and packs one helluva punch!

xxsleepyxx
02-25-2010, 11:11 PM
The glock 26 and 27 are small but I want to never notice I'm packing heat.

professorhard
02-25-2010, 11:15 PM
The glock 26 and 27 are small but I want to never notice I'm packing heat.

Then don't. A .22 derringer won't do s*** in a real defensive shooting. Carry something worthwhile or don't at all

Cokebottle
02-25-2010, 11:15 PM
It's all about shot placement.

Unfortunately, for that NAA, it's about barrel placement.... against the belly preferred.

ChrisO
02-25-2010, 11:16 PM
You would need to shove that gun up someones a** to stop an attack. Pointless get AT least a 38 spl or 9mm.

xxsleepyxx
02-25-2010, 11:19 PM
Hmm, this thread is making me reconsider

CnCFunFactory
02-25-2010, 11:22 PM
I own both, carry neither. The .32 over the .22 for sure. If you go with the NAA make sure you have a good knife because you'll get more done with the knife than you ever will with it. Bought both on whims, regret neither purchase they are both neat guns in their own right. I just wouldn't trust my life to either. I carry nothing smaller than a .40 for personal defense. YMMV.

xxsleepyxx
02-25-2010, 11:36 PM
Very a true. A knife can be quite vicious, even in the hands of a novice. And their only 20 bux for a S&W

sqroot3
02-25-2010, 11:49 PM
wow. which other pistols are designed without an extractor??

IrishPirate
02-25-2010, 11:51 PM
bersa thunder .380

but if you're stuck on the two you first posted....32 fo' sho

xxsleepyxx
02-25-2010, 11:55 PM
Bersa Thunder it is. That was my first choice but was just pondering from every angle. I don't think I can trust the Beretta.

CnCFunFactory
02-25-2010, 11:58 PM
I think you mean Bersa (as far as not trusting). Had one, never functioned right. One of the few guns I ever sold.

alpalwal
02-26-2010, 1:43 AM
wow... I was worried there for a second.

anyways, avoid .22 for self defense if you can help it

evidens83
02-26-2010, 8:02 AM
Haha damn u got me! How about a Bersa 380?

ZombieTactics
02-26-2010, 8:45 AM
Bersa Thunder 380 for-the-win, until the new CA-rostered 380s from Kahr, Sig and Taurus become available. This assumes you don't want to step up to 9mm, in which case the Kahr PM9 is your friend.

quick draw mcgraw
02-26-2010, 8:52 AM
I own a Tomcat. Nice little gun. I have a pocket holster and an IWB holster, but have never carried it as a main CCW. I wanted something I was sure would get the job done so I went with a Kahr P40 and a Crossbreed IWB holster.

I will also say that I've had several FTE's with my Tomcat so I have a little trust issue with it and only carry it as a back up/last resort.

will227457
02-26-2010, 9:33 AM
S&W j frame, 5 shot .38.....get a 442 i think it weighs 12.5oz or something like that...

bigcalidave
02-26-2010, 9:42 AM
I have a little beretta .25, dead reliable, never had a problem. I'd trust it in an emergency, although it won't be on my permit. You don't NEED a .40 in a self defense situation. If all you can comfortably carry is a little gun, then do it. Learn how to shoot it really well. I can hit anything close (<7yds) with my beretta, and 8 rounds from it will stop an attack.

Donkeypunch0420
02-26-2010, 12:49 PM
Between the two, the Beretta for sure. The NAA is a nice well made little revolver, but more of a novelty or conversation piece IMO. At least that's the way I treat mine.

stix213
02-26-2010, 12:57 PM
hahahahaha! Good one with the 12 year old needing a CCW. Had me thinking you were crazy for a minute :)

CSACANNONEER
02-26-2010, 3:26 PM
Get a NAA with both .22lr and .22mag cylinders! You'll have far more fun with it than a .32! Also, I don't care what anyone says, I sure would not want to be on the receiving end of a .22mag!

Blade
02-26-2010, 5:25 PM
Any gun you have on you is better than the best gun you left at home. I would carry the caliber and type of gun you use as your main practice gun. You would be more proficient with it. For me its a G26 9mm, with my G17 as my main gun. This way I can share mags and bullets between the two and they handle about the same. However if I had to choose it would be the .32

duc748bip
02-26-2010, 6:30 PM
Haha that title will get CALGUN on the 8 o'clock news..

jermedic
02-26-2010, 8:35 PM
I have a tomcat and it is a pos. Think I may have just gotten a lemon but would never trust the model for me or reccomend it to someone. Got it new and put about 60 rounds thru it. Every 2 or 3 rounds caused a jam and around 60 rounds or so the front of the frame cracked. If gonna be sending it back soon and will give the replacement a go as a range toy but I wouldn't ever carry it. Kind of a shame since it seems like a nice little gun, just gonna be a range ony gun for me.

TURBOELKY
02-26-2010, 8:44 PM
I shot one of those NAA .22 magnums, and didn't hit squat from 5 yards....:D he he! It was fun though....

pogo
02-26-2010, 9:52 PM
hahahahaha! Good one with the 12 year old needing a CCW. Had me thinking you were crazy for a minute :)
Damn, when i read the title I figured we had a Brady bunch troll here!

maxwellca21
02-27-2010, 1:22 AM
just carry a shank.

farnorcal
02-27-2010, 1:54 AM
ruger lcp ?

bwolcott
02-27-2010, 9:44 AM
bersa, tomcat, in that order, forget the naa lol

J-cat
02-27-2010, 10:05 AM
This thread needs to be deleted immediately.

Noobert
02-27-2010, 10:29 PM
The NAA's barrel is simply too short to build up speed

Doheny
02-27-2010, 10:29 PM
Mods please delete this thread

This thread needs to be deleted immediately.


Why?

Doheny
02-27-2010, 10:44 PM
If it has to be explained than you would not understand.

Lighten up, Francis ...

J-cat
02-27-2010, 10:45 PM
Why?

Because we don't need any arscholes using this thread for politically nefarious purposes.

Doheny
02-27-2010, 10:54 PM
Well said, besides it isn't even funny. Do you know who gives gun owners a bad name ? GUN OWNERS

Many posts could be construed as giving gun owners a bad name. Calling the President various names? Check. Calling for revolution? Check. Pictures of girls wearing little with guns? Check.

The post is clearly a parody. The OP says he's joking. Pretty much any post here could be misconstrued.

besides it isn't even funny.

I think it's funny...other people here think it's funny. It certainly got people's attention.

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xxsleepyxx
02-27-2010, 11:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26bF-6ZR630

A 12 year old with a 357. My hero.

MudCamper
02-28-2010, 9:37 AM
The OP's choice did not include 22. It is 22 magnum, which has more energy than a 32 auto.

jumbopanda
02-28-2010, 1:10 PM
Get a subcompact 10mm Glock. DO IT.

Cokebottle
02-28-2010, 1:17 PM
The OP's choice did not include 22. It is 22 magnum, which has more energy than a 32 auto.
Probably not out of the 0.75" barrel :D

Pyrodyne
02-28-2010, 1:45 PM
http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/thunder50diagonalace.jpg

Conceal-ability might be handicapped a little, but that one shot would surely count.

quick draw mcgraw
02-28-2010, 1:49 PM
http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/thunder50diagonalace.jpg

Conceal-ability might be handicapped a little, but that one shot would surely count.


YIKES!! I'm thinking you might have some over penetration issues with this one!! :eek:

Lissauer
02-28-2010, 1:56 PM
Try a Bond Arms derringer, many calibers. They pop up from time to time

weezil_boi
02-28-2010, 2:07 PM
Id say 380 as a min... find a keltec P3AT or a ruger LCP.

Low-Pressure
02-28-2010, 2:31 PM
i'll go with the 3rd choice...........380 sig p232. :)

xxsleepyxx
02-28-2010, 2:43 PM
Bersa, 232, Kel Tec were all valid choices. At the time, I was pondering the idea of a pocket gun. I think it is too impractical and 400 some for a Beretta is not a good investment.

NRAhighpowershooter
02-28-2010, 4:58 PM
keep it ON Topic gentleman!

Seesm
02-28-2010, 6:22 PM
I was like WTF? There is no way a 12 year old could make rational descisions and or get a CCW...

HappyG
02-28-2010, 9:34 PM
I think a .380 is the lowest caliber I'd go for a CCW pistol. They make very small 9MM's these days too...

robert101
02-28-2010, 9:55 PM
Wow, 12 year old with a CCW permit. You are crazy. No permit is required. The kid needs to learn how to carry without a permit and avoid the typical school metal detectors by using the Cafeteria side doors.

Just kidding.............

Notblake
02-28-2010, 10:08 PM
for the size and weight AND stopping power, you are better off getting a can of OC spray.

I'm serious ....

xxsleepyxx
02-28-2010, 10:33 PM
LOL, I was thinking about that. But California restricts the amount of spray in a can to a sadly low amount. In that scenario a knife is more effective but renders the carrier to legal troubles if the person is seriously injured.

walter
03-01-2010, 2:35 AM
most people on the street get killed with 22.

i say get a 22 revolver

Hawkstp
03-01-2010, 8:35 AM
Stay with at least a 9mm for carry. You want small and light, go with the Kahr PM9.

xxdabroxx
03-01-2010, 10:32 AM
Go with the biggest one you are willing to actually carry. If it sits at home because it is too big, it does you no good. If that means the NAA is as big as you want to carry then so be it.