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NorCalMama
02-24-2010, 1:48 PM
So I'm needing your help! As both a woman and a C3 Leader, I am supposed to come up with creative, effective ways to reach out to the female community in CA to drum up interest in both firearms/RKBA and Calguns. What, from your uniquely female perspective would be effective ways to reach out to women who are NOT currently into firearms? Where would you go, what tools would you use, what activities would you invite women to, etc?
I am brainstorming my own ideas but would like the other women on here to share what they think! :)

Thanks ladies!

AbbyCat
02-24-2010, 7:27 PM
One group you can go to would be women motorcycle riders. These gals already are open to doing things that are traditionally viewed as male dominated. The times are 'a changing!' Women bike ownership is one of the fastest growing segment of motorcycle sales. The need to be responsible for their own safety will also resonate with them.

I own a Harley and can only speak from that experience. Most Harley Owners Group (HOG) chapters have a Ladies of Harley (LOH) group. They have their own meetings. You may find them receptive to presentations at their meetings or other demonstrations and information. Most of the Harley dealerships sponsor a HOG chapter.

NorCalMama
02-24-2010, 8:41 PM
One group you can go to would be women motorcycle riders. These gals already are open to doing things that are traditionally viewed as male dominated. The times are 'a changing!' Women bike ownership is one of the fastest growing segment of motorcycle sales. The need to be responsible for their own safety will also resonate with them.

I own a Harley and can only speak from that experience. Most Harley Owners Group (HOG) chapters have a Ladies of Harley (LOH) group. They have their own meetings. You may find them receptive to presentations at their meetings or other demonstrations and information. Most of the Harley dealerships sponsor a HOG chapter.

Thanks! I will look into the Lady of Harley group and see what I come up with! :)

Steyrlp10
02-26-2010, 12:43 PM
One group you can go to would be women motorcycle riders. These gals already are open to doing things that are traditionally viewed as male dominated. The times are 'a changing!' Women bike ownership is one of the fastest growing segment of motorcycle sales. The need to be responsible for their own safety will also resonate with them.

I own a Harley and can only speak from that experience. Most Harley Owners Group (HOG) chapters have a Ladies of Harley (LOH) group. They have their own meetings. You may find them receptive to presentations at their meetings or other demonstrations and information. Most of the Harley dealerships sponsor a HOG chapter.

Nice suggestion!

OHOD
02-26-2010, 5:15 PM
In community health nursing, we go to the leaders of the community in order to learn about the community we serve. There is no better way to learn of a community need, than to be within that community.

Asking your female peers for ideas is the first and most logical step, which is what you did. Kudos! Your on your way to being a leader! I'm not joking, sometimes taking the first step is the most difficult.

Here are my ideas.
1. Sponsor meets and shoots for lady Calgunners (no brainer)

2. Set up a booth next to the Calgunner booth, that is clearly directed towards women. The idea would be appeal to the wives of gun enthusiasts that are otherwise disinterested.

3. To have a long term effect on perception and behavior regarding guns, I think if you could create community outreach to the younger crowd.

There is a guy that is going to college in the LA area that is doing exactly what you describe. He is always on line, I'm sure you will recognize the name when you see it, shooter something, avatar is a guy leaning against a pole with a gun on his hip.

Almost forgot, I bet the NRA would have a ton of resources you could use.

freonr22
02-26-2010, 5:42 PM
i think its pullnshoot25


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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/icons/icon1.gif Marksmanship Club @ UCSD
Hey collegiate marksmen! If you are a UCSD student or you go to a university/college in the area (USD, SDSU, Mira Costa, etc), feel free to sign up at our website and stay in touch with the shooting scene down here in San Diego. While only UCSD students can vote or hold office, we welcome all local students to coordinate with us and attend the various events that we are trying to get started.

Our website is http://marksmanshipclub.org (http://marksmanshipclub.org/)

CARRY ON!

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IrishPirate
02-26-2010, 6:02 PM
not a lady but my wife is!! she also happens to have a business degree and she works as an Executive for Target so she knows a little about marketing, which is pretty much what this is all about.

getting females into guns/RKBA doesn't necessarily mean they need to go shooting. check out this website (http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/technology/arms/)for some really good Pro 2A posters that relate to women. If you can contact the photographer and get permission, papering places that women frequent might be a good idea. College bulletin boards are great too!!!!!!!!

Check out some local radio stations and/or satellite radio stations and see if they can give you a few minutes to promote RKBA info, gun shows, etc. many of them have certain ammounts of time they need to fill for free so you might get lucky and find a popular one that can accommodate you.

local free newspapers are a good bet too.

hope this helps

OHOD
02-27-2010, 10:07 AM
i think its pullnshoot25


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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/icons/icon1.gif Marksmanship Club @ UCSD
Hey collegiate marksmen! If you are a UCSD student or you go to a university/college in the area (USD, SDSU, Mira Costa, etc), feel free to sign up at our website and stay in touch with the shooting scene down here in San Diego. While only UCSD students can vote or hold office, we welcome all local students to coordinate with us and attend the various events that we are trying to get started.

Our website is http://marksmanshipclub.org (http://marksmanshipclub.org/)

CARRY ON!

-N8
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Marksmanship Club @ UCSD
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That's him!!

Steyrlp10
02-27-2010, 10:47 AM
Very cool input, thanks much! I like sharing your brains :)

NorCalMama
02-27-2010, 5:08 PM
Great input IrishPirate! :)

IrishPirate
02-27-2010, 7:14 PM
if we can somehow get permission to print the pictures and can get the printing done cheaply, I'd be more than happy to post them around the colleges in my area......I think college campuses are a great place to start since they have free speach areas (no, i don't agree with the constitutionality of having a free speech "area", but let's continue...) where anyone can set up booths and pass out fliers, and you can get reach a huge crowd of people who tend to pass information along to others very often.

CSACANNONEER
02-27-2010, 7:22 PM
There was a Women's shooting orginization at SHOT. I got there contact info somewhere. I'll try to find it within the next week or so.

rkt88edmo
02-27-2010, 9:59 PM
If you do go after the motorcycle ladies, Bay Area Riders Forum, aka BARF is another place to hit.

Steyrlp10
02-28-2010, 8:42 AM
If you do go after the motorcycle ladies, Bay Area Riders Forum, aka BARF is another place to hit.

Lol... have to smile at the acronym, but thanks for yet another great suggestion. All of you are fantastic Wells of Knowledge!

Angie
03-01-2010, 12:16 PM
Wow, so many great ideas so far.

Can't think of many things off the top of my head that haven't been said already, but what about the Girl Scouts/youth groups? I know that's a really young crowd, but they tend to be about empowering females and being strong, I would think that aspects like self-protection and personal freedoms might appeal to them? (Like I said, just random quick thought, so forgive me if it's too out-there :) )

Lemme think about it some more.

masameet
03-03-2010, 11:05 PM
My first thought when I read your question was female motorcyclists too. But I dunno. As a female rider, I've met a number of other female riders, in person and online, and I'd say I'd trust only a few of them with my handguns. And your posting as a non-rider on BARF and other online motorcycle forums might be looked on as unusual and strange. Still BARF has a thriving "BARF Militia" thread (in the Non-Moto Activities subforum), which has been running for years. I imagine that thread would be more appropriate to post in, if you want to do a community outreach on BARF.

Still to attract a wide spectrum of women to the sport of shooting, have you thought about posting fliers at churches, public libraries, and colleges? That's where a lot of women are when they're not working or at home.

2Cute2Shoot
03-10-2010, 10:38 AM
So I'm needing your help! As both a woman and a C3 Leader, I am supposed to come up with creative, effective ways to reach out to the female community in CA to drum up interest in both firearms/RKBA and Calguns. What, from your uniquely female perspective would be effective ways to reach out to women who are NOT currently into firearms? Where would you go, what tools would you use, what activities would you invite women to, etc?
I am brainstorming my own ideas but would like the other women on here to share what they think! :)

Thanks ladies!

This one feels easy to me. I have wanted to shoot for so long, but didn't know how to get into it. Me and my GF's even went to a shooting range but were totally intimidated and left!

I totally think flyers on college campuses would do a lot. Hitting the 'self defense' angle would also get lots of girls interested. Maybe a flyer of a picture with regular girls - not the military type or the really masculine type (no hate intended), letting girls know there will be an 'intro to shooting' clinic at some range. I know lots of girls who would want to try - but most just wait for a guy or boyfriend to teach them.:confused:

NorCalMama
03-11-2010, 10:06 AM
This one feels easy to me. I have wanted to shoot for so long, but didn't know how to get into it. Me and my GF's even went to a shooting range but were totally intimidated and left!

I totally think flyers on college campuses would do a lot. Hitting the 'self defense' angle would also get lots of girls interested. Maybe a flyer of a picture with regular girls - not the military type or the really masculine type (no hate intended), letting girls know there will be an 'intro to shooting' clinic at some range. I know lots of girls who would want to try - but most just wait for a guy or boyfriend to teach them.:confused:

That's definitely a good idea! It's all about empowerment and the ability to defend yourself. Women today need to realize that shooting is NOT just for men and that when you give it a shot, it's amazingly fun! :)

Steyrlp10
03-11-2010, 12:35 PM
That's definitely a good idea! It's all about empowerment and the ability to defend yourself. Women today need to realize that shooting is NOT just for men and that when you give it a shot, it's amazingly fun! :)

Ditto... whoever said that women don't have "stuff" to protect too?? :) Just to add -- it's not only about shooting a firearm, but it's understanding the bigger picture and acquiring accurate knowledge. With politics the way it is presented, it would be easy to be misinformed by people who don't have our interests in mind (aka The Commie Conspiracy).

Chicks need to maintain independent thought.

wildhawker
03-13-2010, 3:22 PM
This one feels easy to me. I have wanted to shoot for so long, but didn't know how to get into it. Me and my GF's even went to a shooting range but were totally intimidated and left!

I totally think flyers on college campuses would do a lot. Hitting the 'self defense' angle would also get lots of girls interested. Maybe a flyer of a picture with regular girls - not the military type or the really masculine type (no hate intended), letting girls know there will be an 'intro to shooting' clinic at some range. I know lots of girls who would want to try - but most just wait for a guy or boyfriend to teach them.:confused:

I think that a women's shooting clinic at sponsored shooting events would be a good fixture. At the larger facilities, we could even dedicate one range for this purpose.

2Cute2Shoot
03-13-2010, 3:38 PM
I think that a women's shooting clinic at sponsored shooting events would be a good fixture. At the larger facilities, we could even dedicate one range for this purpose.

I think if you really want to get 'girls' involved, it might have to be separate from the sponsored shoots...or apart from them enough that girls don't get intimidated. I know a lot of girls who would feel empowered to learn to shoot, but are a little intimidated by some of the guys. Not me of course, daddy taught me to be intimidated by no man!! LOL

Backinblack1234
03-23-2010, 8:21 PM
I think if you really want to get 'girls' involved, it might have to be separate from the sponsored shoots...or apart from them enough that girls don't get intimidated. I know a lot of girls who would feel empowered to learn to shoot, but are a little intimidated by some of the guys. Not me of course, daddy taught me to be intimidated by no man!! LOL

:cheers2: +1. At the range I am tired of seeing that creepy dude trying to help the young lady out. It seems like some guys egos causes the girls to loose interest etc.

missiondude
03-23-2010, 9:12 PM
The NRA members councils in California sponsor Women On Target (WOT) clinics many times throughout the year. San Diego's council holds 4 a year that are always full. The ladies shoot 22lr rifle, shotgun and handgun up to 45 cal in groups of 10 with 1 on 1 coaching (30 women attend each clinic with 30 coaches plus range safety officers). I coach handgun and rifle. The events sell out months in advance and always have waiting lists. Contact your local members council for information on how they put on the events and attract the shooters.

lumwilliam
03-23-2010, 11:43 PM
The NRA members councils in California sponsor Women On Target (WOT) clinics many times throughout the year. San Diego's council holds 4 a year that are always full. The ladies shoot 22lr rifle, shotgun and handgun up to 45 cal in groups of 10 with 1 on 1 coaching (30 women attend each clinic with 30 coaches plus range safety officers). I coach handgun and rifle. The events sell out months in advance and always have waiting lists. Contact your local members council for information on how they put on the events and attract the shooters.

It's true. I tried to sign my wife up for an NRA women's shoot. They get to run thru everything from a .22 thru shotgun...whatever they're comfortable with. What I found was that they are fully booked thru the year! I was thrilled to hear it...waiting lists for women to participate in NRA events. But why isn't this demand translating into more women at Calguns? More female NRA members? More women at ranges? Have we created an 'old boys' environment that's scaring women away? I'm not active enough to say for sure but an interesting thought.

Steyrlp10
03-24-2010, 9:14 AM
It's true. I tried to sign my wife up for an NRA women's shoot. They get to run thru everything from a .22 thru shotgun...whatever they're comfortable with. What I found was that they are fully booked thru the year! I was thrilled to hear it...waiting lists for women to participate in NRA events. But why isn't this demand translating into more women at Calguns? More female NRA members? More women at ranges? Have we created an 'old boys' environment that's scaring women away? I'm not active enough to say for sure but an interesting thought.

That's exactly what we're working on here at Calguns. I think it's great that we get so much feedback from the male members, but when I asked about their GFs/wives of the Calgunners who aren't members and who don't visit the forums, well, I don't know. I think it's a mixture of other priorities and interest levels in those women's lives, but I could be wrong.

I've taken a Women On Target course with my GF and our two sons -- and yes, it was a lot of fun! I was very impressed that the average age of the women in the two classes that day was 50+. That was interesting.

I am happy to say though that Calguns is the first organization in my 20+ years of competing that has "actively" approached me about getting women to be proactive in 2A and competition. As I mentioned in other threads, I'm a Life Member of the NRA, CRPA, and USA Shooting. They're great organizations with a lot of clout, but I had to do the footwork to make things happen for myself. In the past, I felt like I was just a number and not much beyond being a cash cow to those entities.

2Cute2Shoot
03-24-2010, 1:33 PM
:cheers2: +1. At the range I am tired of seeing that creepy dude trying to help the young lady out. It seems like some guys egos causes the girls to loose interest etc.

I KNOW!! I was going to create another thread about that. My mom and I went to test shoot an AR I was planning to buy on Friday. 5 or 6 guys came up to us to help 'teach' us about the gun. One guy just walked up behind my mom and put his hand up against her back :mad: to help her posture. She was creeped out by it. I was laughing at her and then the same thing happened to me.

Some of the guys were so sweet, but some just wanted to talk and talk, and we just wanted to shoot! My mom said that if we ever go again, we're going to have to bring a guy with us.

wildhawker
03-24-2010, 2:01 PM
I think if you really want to get 'girls' involved, it might have to be separate from the sponsored shoots...or apart from them enough that girls don't get intimidated. I know a lot of girls who would feel empowered to learn to shoot, but are a little intimidated by some of the guys. Not me of course, daddy taught me to be intimidated by no man!! LOL

How about a separate range/area at one of our Shoot-n-Que/training events? It's important to remember that many female significant others attend with their CGN member counterparts (although I would LOVE to see the opposite become true, with female CGN members bringing their significant others along), so, to me, a very narrow marketing approach will likely return equally narrow results.

I cannot wait until the day when women are well-represented in our membership, shooting sports and leadership (although I can see this improving, with competitors like Jessie Abbate and leaders like sterylp10 and NorCalMama bringing the gun culture into the 21st century).

These are exciting times!

Fireguy
03-27-2010, 12:26 AM
The National Wild Turkey Federation (NWTF) has a program called Women in the Outdoors (WITO). The MT Diablo Chapter is planning one in the Fall and might be interested in partnering with a group like yours.
The purpose of the event is to introduce Women to various outdoor skills from camp cooking, outdoor survival, who to choose equipment and gun safety and shooting etc. I think it would be great have women shooting instructors.
The Bakerfield Chapter has a WITO event that has over a hundred women attend their 2 day program.

Steyrlp10
03-27-2010, 6:57 PM
The National Wild Turkey Federation (NWTF) has a program called Women in the Outdoors (WITO). The MT Diablo Chapter is planning one in the Fall and might be interested in partnering with a group like yours.
The purpose of the event is to introduce Women to various outdoor skills from camp cooking, outdoor survival, who to choose equipment and gun safety and shooting etc. I think it would be great have women shooting instructors.
The Bakerfield Chapter has a WITO event that has over a hundred women attend their 2 day program.


Thanks Fireguy :) Do you know any of the contact people of the NWTF/WITO?

Fireguy
04-07-2010, 1:01 AM
Yes I do. Please PM me and I share that info with you.

katokat
04-11-2010, 8:51 PM
I've been shooting with my husband for a couple of years now, and he finally talked me into helping coach at the Women on Target event today. Gotta say, it was a really well run clinic, and I had a blast. Of the three women I helped with pistol, two had never held a gun, and one hadn't shot in 30 years. We started with a 22, but each of them moved up to my M&P 9mm in no time and loved it.

I was impressed with how well it was run. The men were very respectful and encouraging with the new shooters. Funny what was said about putting a hand on the back being creepy - we were specifically told to ask first before touching anyone. There were two of us women coaches, and the shooters were asked if any would prefer a female.

I guess my point here is that this was a good example to follow on getting new women shooters interested and comfortable. There was a focus on safety, on having fun, with none of their significant others, sons, dads, etc there to "coach" them.

On another note, maybe a good place to market would be at self-defense seminars. One woman was there because her ex husband is starting to harass her and she wanted to buy a gun for protection.

AngelDecoys
04-11-2010, 9:32 PM
......I am supposed to come up with creative, effective ways to reach out to the female community in CA to drum up interest in both firearms/RKBA and Calguns.

You might contact your local range and see if they have a ladies program. We teach one every month and market it as a ladies only experience. Its a free class run by NRA certified volunteers. We provide eyes, ears, and ammo free of charge. We've run it for several years and its been a big hit for us.

BTW - If you feel like driving up from Fresno to check it out in Manteca, our next class is.......
"April 17, 2010 - Sat. 1:00 pm, Women’s Pistol I"
Also follow the link in my sig.

Another idea.
I've been meaning to pitch this idea to my own club's Board of Directors. My wife has said she might just run it with me. Its a program for couple's. A Couple's night if you will. Something along the lines of a steak dinner for 2 for $40 and it include range time & 2 boxes of ammo. Just need the regular staff and someone (perhaps me) to work the BBQ. Not a money maker for the club persay, but may give an opportunity for a couple to do something different.

You might ask your local range if they are interested in doing something along the same lines as an 'outreach' program. Maybe you (or someone you know) run the BBQ. As we move into the summer, it will get dark late enough to make this feasible.

Good luck.

rkt88edmo
04-12-2010, 8:14 AM
I was impressed with how well it was run. The men were very respectful and encouraging with the new shooters. Funny what was said about putting a hand on the back being creepy - we were specifically told to ask first before touching anyone.

That is the NRA way, in all NRA curriculum courses any instructor should be asking before touching any student, explaining why they want to do so, regardless of sex.

wildhawker
04-12-2010, 9:31 AM
When you have more info, ping us; we're not far and the wife enjoys working with new shooters, especially women.

You might contact your local range and see if they have a ladies program. We teach one every month and market it as a ladies only experience. Its a free class run by NRA certified volunteers. We provide eyes, ears, and ammo free of charge. We've run it for several years and its been a big hit for us.

BTW - If you feel like driving up from Fresno to check it out in Manteca, our next class is.......
"April 17, 2010 - Sat. 1:00 pm, Women’s Pistol I"
Also follow the link in my sig.

Another idea.
I've been meaning to pitch this idea to my own club's Board of Directors. My wife has said she might just run it with me. Its a program for couple's. A Couple's night if you will. Something along the lines of a steak dinner for 2 for $40 and it include range time & 2 boxes of ammo. Just need the regular staff and someone (perhaps me) to work the BBQ. Not a money maker for the club persay, but may give an opportunity for a couple to do something different.

You might ask your local range if they are interested in doing something along the same lines as an 'outreach' program. Maybe you (or someone you know) run the BBQ. As we move into the summer, it will get dark late enough to make this feasible.

Good luck.