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saber2000
02-24-2010, 6:15 AM
Hey gangs,

Been living on and off in china for about 8 years now, and just found calguns a month ago! Been lurking about, looking and drooling at the auctions and all the knife discussions and such.

I'm not a poster, because I'm kinda a follow-the-crowd guy, and I also don't have a lot of experiences in army, and weaponry.

Looking into it now, as well as survival skills, for when SHTF, I'd like to have a fighting chance against the 1.3 billion populations here.



Will continue to browse the forum in the meantime! But if you have any russian contact, please let me know :)

Saber

choprzrul
02-24-2010, 6:23 AM
Welcome to Calguns saber!

PatriotnMore
02-24-2010, 6:25 AM
Welcome. I would be very careful what you post, I am sure they monitor, I would hate to see you end up in their prison system for a 1A issue you don't have there.

saber2000
02-24-2010, 8:05 AM
lol, it's no problem. the wonders of vpn and stuff. I also travel extensively to malaysia on business.

69Mach1
02-24-2010, 9:51 AM
Welcome to the forum saber. Can you stop by the Norinco plant for me and pick up some spare parts. :)

POLICESTATE
02-24-2010, 9:56 AM
Be very careful with your encryption, you never know what those Chinese hackers will come up with next!

I would imagine obtaining weapons in China is as simple as paying off the right people, isn't that how everything more or less works over there?

ZombieKiller
02-24-2010, 10:41 AM
Ni hao...be careful.....oh ya-

Welcome

leperphilliac
02-24-2010, 2:36 PM
Welcome... and do be careful. Even certain types of airguns are illegal there I believe, and they censor/look into EVERYTHING. (AND I MEAN EVERYTHING). So... watch out. and welcome.

Colt-45
02-24-2010, 3:06 PM
1st off welcome to calguns.

Be careful about openly asking about illegal gun contacts. Wouldn't wanna see you banned.

novabrian
02-24-2010, 3:10 PM
Yeah just ask Tank Man!

Rogerbutthead
02-24-2010, 3:58 PM
Hello Saber, got your PM.

Hiya Roger, a new member here.

I'm a foreigner living in China Beijing, and is a 50% believer in 2012, and an avid believer of the SHTF situation coming. I'd like to get some guns, ammos, bows and knives in my BOB in china for me and my chinese wife, and noticed in the guns in china thread you made a subtle mention.

Do you have contacts that I can hook up with? Going on a long shot here. The best thing I can get from here in china, are wooden bows, and overly priced HOYT imports. For that price, I'd rather buy a good firearm..

Hope you visits calguns still, and see this message.. thanks in advance for your reading.

Since I have already had my hopefully once in a lifetime visit from ATF, I am very suspicious of anyone asking me for help breaking any law.

I don't remember posting in any guns in China thread and I hope you aren't some law enforcement type trolling for their next arrest.

I am not knowingly gonna provide them with another reason to "visit".

I wish you good luck in your lawful endeavors.

gn3hz3ku1*
02-24-2010, 4:02 PM
we do not condone anything illegal here. you dont like China's useless laws? LEAVE then since you have the option to go

POLICESTATE
02-24-2010, 4:08 PM
And why the hell would you be trying to buy guns from America to go to China? Maybe you need to go to www.chinaguns.net LOL

OneApart
02-24-2010, 4:29 PM
First off, welcome to Calguns....



Looking into it now, as well as survival skills, for when SHTF, I'd like to have a fighting chance against the 1.3 billion populations here.

BTW does anyone have any contacts in getting firearms in China? They're illegal to own, and they have laws and such, which is funny, coming from such a corrupted country, and useless police forces.

Will continue to browse the forum in the meantime! But if you have any russian contact, please let me know.

Saber

There is no way for an average person to LEGALLY bring arms INTO that country<PERIOD> :no:

Even though Capitalism is making a presence, and you can order a Big Mac....:chef: don't be confused::confused: IT IS STILL A COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT.

If you try to bring unauthorized weapons into that country :ninja: and are caught, you will be in for a brutal demonstration in the contrasts between our 2 judicial systems. :94:

I would be very careful what you post, I am sure they monitor, I would hate to see you end up in their prison system for a 1A issue you don't have there.

Patriot raises a very good point :thumbsup: +1.

Just my couple of pennies.

bsg
02-24-2010, 6:48 PM
welcome to the forum; i know nothing about contacts in russia....

spaceburger
02-24-2010, 7:11 PM
welcome to all you gangs in the Guojia Anquan Bu!

mievil
02-24-2010, 9:02 PM
Welcome... and do be careful. Even certain types of airguns are illegal there I believe, and they censor/look into EVERYTHING. (AND I MEAN EVERYTHING). So... watch out. and welcome.

Like he said, VPN is fine. You can find and look at and watch 99% of whatever it is you are trying to get at.

We found knives all over the place, and stun guns and batons and all that stuff. Only guns we ever saw were on the police or bank transfer security, and the only people that I know of that were able to get weapons were family members of the military. Most people just went chasing after folks with a broken beer bottle which I can only imagine does just fine doing damage to important meat. ;)

If you're legit, don't worry about stockpiling anything over there. I'm stockpiling for when they come over here. haha

IronColt
02-24-2010, 9:07 PM
why need firearms when you can fight them off with chopsticks?

Colt-45
02-24-2010, 9:20 PM
why need firearms when you can fight them off with chopsticks?

Chopsticks, nunchucks and Kung Foo :D!

TURBOELKY
02-24-2010, 10:56 PM
I wonder if this guy was for real, or just plain dumb? The agencies have very suspicious ways of going about like that, and sometimes are too obvious....:D I'm with Mach though, stop by Norinco and send us some good parts!!:43:

saber2000
02-24-2010, 11:11 PM
True that, my apologies for a very intrusive introductory thread heh.

With everything being censored, and the laws watching internet traffic, and their Great FireWall, you can still get a lot of stuff in CN, if you're there long enough to know certain circles.

For example with guns, they usually ship from around the russian borders in to fringe areas of the northern part, where traffic is lax, and the guards are freaking lazies (You can't really realise the implications of the laziness of the law enforcements and army here... it's detestable), you can get some good AKs from across there. Just the other day from group chat (they use a thing call QQ here, which is basically icq, with a built in IRC client), these guys were talking to russians LOL, but the russian guy wanted 12000RMB per, or was it 30000.

And then drugs and pots are illegal, but then again, rave parties and snort fests aren't unheard of here.

3rdly prostitutions and porn are a no no, but the term "red light district" were coined from China, no? At least from where I live, and other residential areas, they're like 7-11, there's bound to be 1 near you. As for PRON, cyber network of internet downloads and such again. You gotta be good with your GOOGLE (or baidu) skills, to find the gems, and be a paid member and stuff (everything's about money, in china, even the stupid cops).

Chopsticks it is! Gonna stock up with cheap disposables, and clone(hey that's what chinese are good at right? knock offing) some auto crossbows and have a lethal bamboo shooter. I might cut up some yam pieces to stick to the front, and make bunny busters!

Already getting knives, but still going to buy them from the states and ship them to china. ****ers are only good with cheap knock-offs that looks and feels great, but horrible steel (they just don't have the american techs, or too used to stealing from others, lazy capitalism).

Also ordered 2 wooden bows locally. The HOYT here are twice as much as the States ones. Sellers here capitalizing on the ignorance and the inability of getting credit card of locals here, jacking up the price astronomically..

saber2000
02-24-2010, 11:18 PM
Hello Saber, got your PM.
....

Since I have already had my hopefully once in a lifetime visit from ATF, I am very suspicious of anyone asking me for help breaking any law.
what's an ATF? something like FBI? My apologies for my ignorance, really don't know what it means.

I don't remember posting in any guns in China thread and I hope you aren't some law enforcement type trolling for their next arrest.
The thread's about 2 years ago, if I remember correctly. was not sure if you still visit the forum is all.


I wish you good luck in your lawful endeavors.
It's all about protecting the families. Just feel quite insecure with the current situation of the whole world. I don't really have to worry about food, because there are so many farms here, (still, stocked up a little), but made a BOB with lots of everyday medicines. Perhaps I am paranoid, but I'd like to think of it as a hobby, an not an obsession :D

Coming with good intentions, but I did went overboard, in a publicly accessible forum. For this I apologise, going to see if I can edit the original thread.

saber2000
02-24-2010, 11:20 PM
I wonder if this guy was for real, or just plain dumb? The agencies have very suspicious ways of going about like that, and sometimes are too obvious....:D I'm with Mach though, stop by Norinco and send us some good parts!!:43:

A moment of Noobness :p

Speaking of Norinco, just happens that my friend is a JV partner of them(should have remembered, old age..). Going to see if he can hook me up with a P228 knockoff!

And no, I don't think I can ship out spareparts for you guys :p it's just as hard to ship them out, as shipping them in!

Rogerbutthead
02-24-2010, 11:52 PM
ATF

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - the holy trinity

http://www.atf.gov/

walter
02-24-2010, 11:56 PM
if you lived in china for 8 years you should know that anyone caught selling drugs gets a bullet in the head that they literally have to pay for with their own money. (of course, this is just "technical", you can operate in china as long as you grease the officials)

and in your case, being a foreigner, trying to buy guns from other countries.. iono where to start

but anyhow, trying to get us to help you sneak guns into china is like asking us to lick a crackhead's unshaven p*ssy right after she took a creampie from another crackhead... ain't a chance in hell

Colt-45
02-25-2010, 12:03 AM
Your thread says Foreigner in China

So what country are you originally from?

mossberg500
02-25-2010, 12:26 AM
True that, my apologies for a very intrusive introductory thread heh.

With everything being censored, and the laws watching internet traffic, and their Great FireWall, you can still get a lot of stuff in CN, if you're there long enough to know certain circles.

For example with guns, they usually ship from around the russian borders in to fringe areas of the northern part, where traffic is lax, and the guards are freaking lazies (You can't really realise the implications of the laziness of the law enforcements and army here... it's detestable), you can get some good AKs from across there. Just the other day from group chat (they use a thing call QQ here, which is basically icq, with a built in IRC client), these guys were talking to russians LOL, but the russian guy wanted 12000RMB per, or was it 30000.

And then drugs and pots are illegal, but then again, rave parties and snort fests aren't unheard of here.

3rdly prostitutions and porn are a no no, but the term "red light district" were coined from China, no? At least from where I live, and other residential areas, they're like 7-11, there's bound to be 1 near you. As for PRON, cyber network of internet downloads and such again. You gotta be good with your GOOGLE (or baidu) skills, to find the gems, and be a paid member and stuff (everything's about money, in china, even the stupid cops).

Chopsticks it is! Gonna stock up with cheap disposables, and clone(hey that's what chinese are good at right? knock offing) some auto crossbows and have a lethal bamboo shooter. I might cut up some yam pieces to stick to the front, and make bunny busters!

Already getting knives, but still going to buy them from the states and ship them to china. ****ers are only good with cheap knock-offs that looks and feels great, but horrible steel (they just don't have the american techs, or too used to stealing from others, lazy capitalism).

Also ordered 2 wooden bows locally. The HOYT here are twice as much as the States ones. Sellers here capitalizing on the ignorance and the inability of getting credit card of locals here, jacking up the price astronomically..


you said you can buy an AK then buy it lets see whats comes up to your door lol

OneApart
02-25-2010, 4:05 AM
you said you can buy an AK then buy it lets see whats comes up to your door lol

Probably them...... http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2006-04/27/xin_2104032715010861787333.jpg

OneApart
02-25-2010, 4:06 AM
Followed by him (man on the right):

http://clearwisdom.net/emh/article_images/2003-3-17-torture3.jpg

:no:

gn3hz3ku1*
02-25-2010, 7:50 AM
id post a pic of the 10000 cut death sentence they used to have in the old days but i dont want our head janitor to give me a vacation

saber2000
02-25-2010, 8:12 AM
Used to be in Canada, but I travel extensively between china and east malaysia. Been a while since I went back to Canada..

You really have to live in here for a while, to see that the country's just too big, population too much, authorities too weak to spread it's net to all over the place to monitor. Illegal activities only gets busted, when there's a rat from within, or fierce competition, or sloppiness on the guy's part.

Other than that, after you get through the culture shock, it's just basically like living in Thailand, but a little bit more civilized, and close minded. In another words, you can live like a king there, if you can stand chow miens and fried rice as your staple...

I'm just exaggerating! They're heavily west influenced, when it comes to food.

hoozaru
02-25-2010, 9:04 AM
you said you can buy an AK then buy it lets see whats comes up to your door lol

actually there are many many many people who acquired firearms through illegal means in China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea and other Asian countries, just like the gang bangers here in the U.S. Gun control would never work for those who don't give a thing about laws and are determined to get them.


You really have to live in here for a while, to see that the country's just too big, population too much, authorities too weak to spread it's net to all over the place to monitor.

Saber, any communication regarding the use and manufacturing of firearms, firearms related items, hunting info, even airsoft are closely monitored by Chinese police and national securities. There are hundreds of thousands of geeks hired to read and analyze filtered info everyday every hour every minute. Big brother would not let you know what he knows, the authorities just quietly document everything and hope to use them against you someday.

mievil
02-25-2010, 6:09 PM
Already getting knives, but still going to buy them from the states and ship them to china. ****ers are only good with cheap knock-offs that looks and feels great, but horrible steel (they just don't have the american techs, or too used to stealing from others, lazy capitalism).

You must not know that probably 90% of the knives sold anywhere here are actually made in China.



I'm just exaggerating! They're heavily west influenced, when it comes to food.

Not really. KFC, McD's, Pizza Hut.......But to call that "heavily west influenced" would be a stretch in my opinion. You're spending too much time in Beijing.

saber2000
02-25-2010, 7:05 PM
You must not know that probably 90% of the knives sold anywhere here are actually made in China.

From what I've read around, I don't think this is true. Cheap culinary knives you find at walmart, yes. But good knives that are durable, and used by the army aren't made in china, because the country's steel manufacturing process is not up to par to american standard, technology, machinery, as well as raw materials.

Most of the high quality steel products, have the steel imported from USA, and then resold at super jacked up prices.

If you want to get good knives, get american.

mievil
02-25-2010, 7:12 PM
I stand by my statement. 90% of the knives out there are made in China. 90% of the knives out there are not durable. And military grade doesn't guarantee greatness. It just guarantees it's made by the cheapest bid. Yes, there are great knives. Japanese make great cutlery. But percentage of product.....yeah.

mike100
02-25-2010, 7:15 PM
I have no doubt this guy is really living in China...everything he says fits with what I have seen over the last two years that I have been going there (Beijing and Inner Mongolia). If one could get a handgun past LAX airport security, I'm pretty sure you could get it in country because when you arrive at 4:45 am in Beijing, the sleepy Chinese aren't going to go through a lot of extra trouble to do anything except check your visa.

also..the Great Firewall never once cared about Calguns. The average American perspective does not understand how the average Chinese thinks or what they deem important enough to censor. It's all about appearances. They have the good news all the time channel on tv, blocked anything by the BBC, and blocked pornography, but a hooker button on the phone at nearly every hotel...their system of checks and balances is just different.

ca1903
02-25-2010, 8:06 PM
there are websites that are simply blocked in China. glad Calguns is not. But I do know other websites ALL LEGAL on guns in Chinese language cannot be surfed within China.

before the 2008 Beijing Olympic, even kitchen knives were not allowed to be sold there.

True, gun control is very strict but criminals still have real guns. Police in Taiwan has to wear bullet proof vest! Maybe soon police in mainland China will do the same?

mievil
02-25-2010, 8:18 PM
Interesting, there were never any shootings where we were. Lots of beheadings, but no shootings. Hmmm.....where else has lots of beheadings.......Mexico. Gun control at work?