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doc66
02-10-2010, 1:27 PM
Hey Fellow C'gunners!

So here is my question....

Think of the movie- Tombstone.

Doc Holiday- the street howitzer he carries. I think Ive seen it as a "stagecoach" shotgun? Its a side-by-side barrel that breaks in half to re-load? I know it looks really nice and just the nostalgia of it...I want one......

I also want a Ithica type shotgun....also called "riot" shotguns?

Any ideas where I can get one? How much? what specifics to look for? My budget is no more than $300 and is it realistic to get one at this price. I was at a surplus store in South Lake Tahoe (Nevada side) and the burly older guy behind the counter had one. Rusted, looked real old, and he said it was an antique and was asking $1500 for it.

Pictures and advice would be great for either shotgun.

Rukus
02-10-2010, 1:41 PM
Big5 routinely has the coach style shotguns on sale for around your price. I don't know what brand they are off the top of my head, so I cannot comment on their quality.

CHS
02-10-2010, 1:57 PM
The Big 5 and Turners specials are Chinese-made or brazilian-made coach guns, and are of "eh" quality. They are certainly a good deal in the $300-400 range though.

Remington has one that's made in Russia that's quite a bit nicer than the Chinese or Brazilian ones, and not a whole lot more expensive being around $500'ish

CZ makes the absolute nicest one I've seen though, but it's about $850. Worth every penny in my opinion.

Ed_Hazard
02-10-2010, 2:32 PM
Its true sxs shotguns can run the spectrum on price. The Stoeger shotguns are fairly decent for the price point. All depends what you want them for and how much use you'll actually put to it. Has anyone else seen the tactical sxs Turners is selling?

randy
02-10-2010, 3:45 PM
Have your local dealer call Tripp at RSR. Get the shotgun with the dogs head hammers. They might be called dogs ear hammers. It seems to be the best of the bunch. It's going to be a bit more than 300 but it's steel and wood. After 2 shots its one hellava bat.

aermotor
02-10-2010, 3:50 PM
I've seen them at Big 5 and Turners as well, around the $340ish range I think. I'd definitely like to have one as well.

Deadbolt
02-10-2010, 3:53 PM
I gota china knock off of the ithaca riot gun

http://visuallyill.com/TheOppressor.jpg

These can be found for a reasonable price ( i got mine for 250)

taloft
02-10-2010, 4:10 PM
I have a TTN Reproduction of the Colt 1878 Coach Gun. It is a SxS 12ga. 20" bbls. with external rebounding mule ear hammers, 3" chambers and cylinder bore. The barrels are straight and it patterns well.

It was recommended to me by a friend that does cowboy shooting. So far it has held up really well. The fit and finish is excellent. While it is chinese in origin, it is the best clone I've found. I've never seen anyone who owns one complain about them. Several importers offer them. Mine came via EMF. I think I paid around $450.00 OTD.

rromeo
02-10-2010, 8:59 PM
Where in Northern California are you? I have seen a few under $300 on the used racks of some local stores.

doc66
02-10-2010, 10:46 PM
Where in Northern California are you? I have seen a few under $300 on the used racks of some local stores.


Im in Stockton/Manteca/Modesto area.

RedFord150
02-11-2010, 4:26 PM
Hey Fellow C'gunners!...So here is my question....I also want a Ithica type shotgun....also called "riot" shotguns?

Model 37 is the old Ithaca Pump. They were used extensively by LE many years ago. They were generally replaced by Remington 870 and Mossberg.
Check out this link;

http://www.ithacagun.com/defense37s.html

Good luck.

gunace89
02-11-2010, 4:36 PM
[QUOTE=Ed_Hazard;3786176]Its true sxs shotguns can run the spectrum on price. The Stoeger shotguns are fairly decent for the price point. All depends what you want them for and how much use you'll actually put to it. Has anyone else seen the tactical sxs Turners is selling?[/QUOTE

+1 check out the Stoeger line, not all that expensive..sometime local gunstores will have deals and variety..+1 for checking out Big 5 too

sigfan91
02-11-2010, 5:00 PM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/blurr91/guns/PC190025.jpg

The shotgun was from Big5...$150. :D

BigDogatPlay
02-11-2010, 5:25 PM
I had a Stoeger coach gun a number of years ago, hammerless. It was tight, good quality and a fine shooter. If I had to do it again, I'd go to one with exposed hammers.

The examples of the Chinese made gun that Big 5 has been carrying are okay, but they aren't to the quality of the Stoeger I used to have, nor the Russian made guns that Remington has been bringing in that I've seen a couple of.

CmpsdNoMore
02-11-2010, 5:27 PM
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_coach_guns.php
Stoeger makes decent coach guns

WILDMAN442
02-11-2010, 5:56 PM
dude

Stoeger SXS For the win....

My in laws use them for there CAS and love them

Justin

HappyG
02-11-2010, 5:58 PM
Stoeger...

Super Spy
02-11-2010, 6:14 PM
+1 on the Stoeger, I shot one last weekend at an SASS (CAS) event. Those guys use those guns a lot, and they have a rep for being reliable and a good value.

qaz987
02-11-2010, 6:59 PM
Not a "stage" but I think you should look at Edge's 1897 Winnie.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=253772

doc66
02-11-2010, 10:30 PM
Here is my report:


I found both shotguns at a gunstore in San Jose/Campbell. (right off of Camden and 17)

Savage 69rxl

This looks great and is probably what im gonna try to pick up. The owner wasn't there and I should be able to get a price on Saturday.

Stoeger SxS 20 gauge. Great looking rifle! Hammers are not exposed though. But the finish looked great! Price was about $300 (i think)


Thanks for all your help everyone!

keep the pics and info comin....

RP1911
02-11-2010, 10:37 PM
I have a Baikal w/hammers sxs. It is a great shotgun and can be very intimidating.

Here's one on Gunbroker: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=157348665

CHS
02-11-2010, 11:32 PM
I have a Baikal w/hammers sxs. It is a great shotgun and can be very intimidating.

Here's one on Gunbroker: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=157348665

I'm pretty sure those are the ones that Remington is now importing under their "Spartan" line.

I've checked them out and they're very nicely built. I put them right about in the middle of things as far as quality goes.

IrishPirate
02-11-2010, 11:35 PM
check this out (http://www.floridagunworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FG&Product_Code=469&Category_Code=)....can't vouch for quality but it's a sweet stagecoach gun. I like the double exposed hammers....not all double barrels have them.

matrix056
02-12-2010, 12:08 AM
Doc, check out the "Outdoor Sportsman" in Stockton, they have a huge shotgun rack. Last time I was there I saw tons of used/consignment SXS, O/U's and auto's. Dont recall their prices.

NorcalGSG
02-12-2010, 9:29 PM
Stoeger! One of my cheapest guns and probably one of my favorites!!! Had it for over ten years now. I like the internal hammers, I think its a little safer than the exposed hammers like the older guns without floating firing pins. But that's just me, YMMV. And if you like the look, they even make a "tacticool" model now with rails! its strangely cool, but I still prefer the look of the traditional wood and blued finish.