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Vtec44
02-05-2010, 6:50 PM
I did several searches but still don't have a clear answer. If I read it right, 12027 (g) allows me to carry a weapon concealed, with a hunting license but without a CCW permit, while hunting. I just want to verify if this is true.

Edit: 12027 (g)

GrizzlyGuy
02-05-2010, 7:11 PM
That's correct, although it is actually 12027 (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12027.html)(g). You are still subject to 12031 (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12031.html) in terms of whether it can be loaded or not, even while hunting.

FYI, this info is also in the FAQ:

Can I carry a concealed weapon while hunting? (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/FAQ#Can_I_carry_a_concealed_weapon_while_hunting.3 F)

Southwest Chuck
02-05-2010, 7:12 PM
I did several searches but still don't have a clear answer. If I read it right, 12026 (g) allows me to carry a weapon concealed, with a hunting license but without a CCW permit, while hunting. I just want to verify if this is true.

True, by my understanding. But check out Mudcamper's thread "Firearms in Forest and Parks". It's a sticky in the Outdoors, Camping and Survival Forum

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=186457

Southwest Chuck
02-05-2010, 7:19 PM
True, by my understanding. But check out Mudcamper's thread "Firearms in Forest and Parks". It's a sticky in the Outdoors, Camping and Survival Forum

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=186457

Here is a snippet with text bolded that applies:


- National Parks, Federal, National Park Service, US Department of the Interior - firearms currently prohibited *1
- National Forests, Federal, US Forest Service, US Department of Agriculture - firearms permitted but CA state law applies *2
- BLM Land, Federal, Bureau of Land Management, US Department of the Interior - firearms permitted but CA state law applies *2
- State Parks, State, California Department of Parks and Recreation - firearms prohibited *3
- Regional Parks, some are county owned (example), some are city owned - firearms often prohibited per local ordinance


*1 - firearms permitted in vehicles and temporary lodgings when unloaded and "packed, cased or stored in a manner that will prevent their ready use"
*1 - The firearms prohibition will be lifted in 2010 from HR 627. See the "Important Notes" in the second post in this thread.

*2 - Unloaded Open Carry is legal almost everywhere in these lands
*2 - Loaded Open Carry is legal in areas where shooting is not prohibited, and in one's campsite (12031 et al)
*2 - Shooting is prohibited within 150 yards of any residence, building, campsite, or developed site, or on/across a road or body of water
*2 - Forest administrators have the authority to prohibit shooting in other areas of the NF but must post this information
*2 - BLM administrators may post closures and restrictions regarding firearms use
*2 - Loaded Concealed Carry is legal for licensed hunters/fishermen, while hunting/fishing, and only where shooting is not prohibited
*2 - Unloaded Concealed Carry is legal for licensed hunters/fishermen, while traveling to/from hunting/fishing trips

*3 - firearms permitted in vehicles and temporary lodgings when unloaded and "packed, cased or stored in a manner that will prevent their ready use"
*3 - CCW permit holders can apparently carry firearms in California State Parks



I would still read the whole thread, though.

Vtec44
02-05-2010, 7:40 PM
Yes it's a hunting area but I'm going mostly for scouting, and it's going to rain. So I'm just carrying my pistol under my rain gear.

Thanks guys.

dantodd
02-05-2010, 7:41 PM
Yes it's a hunting area but I'm going mostly for scouting, and it's going to rain. So I'm just carrying my pistol under my rain gear.

Thanks guys.

Carry your hunting license then.

Vtec44
02-05-2010, 7:42 PM
Carry your hunting license then.

Most definitely.

Hunt
02-05-2010, 7:48 PM
True, by my understanding. But check out Mudcamper's thread "Firearms in Forest and Parks". It's a sticky in the Outdoors, Camping and Survival Forum

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=186457

+5 excellent read

GuyW
02-05-2010, 8:32 PM
FYI, this info is also in the FAQ:

Can I carry a concealed weapon while hunting? (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/FAQ#Can_I_carry_a_concealed_weapon_while_hunting.3 F)

...subject also (purportedly) to the limitation of no firearms during an archery-only-season hunt...

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OlderThanDirt
02-05-2010, 8:39 PM
If you are within the condor range, make sure you have lead free ammo. It might be a good idea to have an idea of what you are "hunting" since it is unlikely you will have any valid tags this time of year.

oldyeller
02-05-2010, 9:23 PM
Get a pig tag, they never go out of season.

Vtec44
02-05-2010, 9:35 PM
If you are within the condor range, make sure you have lead free ammo. It might be a good idea to have an idea of what you are "hunting" since it is unlikely you will have any valid tags this time of year.

I'll be hiking in D14, just outside of condor range. I'm looking for coyotes and pigs. :D

Get a pig tag, they never go out of season.

I actually have that, too.

Thanks for all the awesome suggestions guys! :D

dantodd
02-05-2010, 10:32 PM
It might be a good idea to have an idea of what you are "hunting" since it is unlikely you will have any valid tags this time of year.

Nope. Just shut your mouth and let them prove you aren't hunting. You don't leave your rights behind at the trail head.