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Stanze
01-11-2006, 2:42 PM
From modest budget to government budget, let's see those fixed carry handle scoped/dot ARs.

Please list what items you used and ballpark dollar figures.

I researched google and AR15.com but most of the info is for flat-tops. Thanks.:)

delloro
01-11-2006, 2:44 PM
leapers 4x20 handle mount. the best for the money.

Stanze
01-11-2006, 2:49 PM
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/927/opt0900lg3sr.jpg

leapers 4x20 handle mount. the best for the money.

What's the reticle look like? Crosshairs? Any distortion on the glass. That is a nice price, would that mount scratch the upper needlessly?

Does anyone have any experience with THIS ONE? (http://www.tapco.com/product_information.asp?number=OPT9711&back=yes&dept=4&last=3)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6161/opt9711md2no.jpg

BigAL
01-11-2006, 4:05 PM
There is a reason why you rarely see optics directly mounted to a carry handle. Cheek weld is usually way too high, perhaps necessitating a riser on the stock. If you really want a scope on a fixed carry handle check out gooseneck mounts.

Stanze
01-11-2006, 4:26 PM
There is a reason why you rarely see optics directly mounted to a carry handle. Cheek weld is usually way too high, perhaps necessitating a riser on the stock. If you really want a scope on a fixed carry handle check out gooseneck mounts.

My dad gave me his "Model One" parts kit he's been hoarding for over 10 years, A2 stock, full length handguard, 20" SS HB, A2 Sights, Fixed carry handle. Not only is it the best thing anyone's ever done for me, but beggars can't be choosers. When I build my Ca-legal AR I want to scope it since I'll have plenty of barrel.:D

How's this Gooseneck? http://www.tacticalshack.com/store/catalog/AR-15-Tactical-Goose-Neck-Mount-p-16789.html

I've seen several offered, with varying degree's of coolness. If I mount a full sized scope in the "Scout" area of the rail, will I have to get a certain kind of scope with the proper eye relief?

delloro
01-11-2006, 4:39 PM
good ol' plain crosshairs. no tricks, no complications. has a bullet drop compensator, but it's a dial on top you twist. leave it alone if you don't want to bother with it, use it if you want to.

it scratches the inside of the carry handle just a bit, you could avoid it if you put something inbetween, I didn't think of it. a teeny bit of scratching or scuffing on the top inside, nothing to worry about IMHO.

BigAl is right, you don't see them much because they are too high. so, don't spend too much on one....

I think it's $40 well spent. because of the limited utility, I am not interested in paying more. Now, if I had an early, correct Colt's, I would pay the $200 for the real Colt's version. which were made in Japan, so the fact that Leapers' are made in China is not that big of a deal to me.

DrjonesUSA
01-11-2006, 8:02 PM
From modest budget to government budget, let's see those fixed carry handle scoped/dot ARs.

Please list what items you used and ballpark dollar figures.

I researched google and AR15.com but most of the info is for flat-tops. Thanks.:)


There is a very good reason why most of the info you're finding is for flat-tops; that is the ideal configuration for mounting an optic.

Talk to pretty much anyone who has real AR experience and they'll tell you to get a flattop if you want to mount an optic.

Sure you CAN mount one on an A1 or A2 upper, but that doesn't mean it is a good idea.

DrjonesUSA
01-11-2006, 8:10 PM
Not to mention that the carry handle is never used. If it's not on a sling, it's being held by the pistol grip, grasped around the slip ring, grabbed by the buttstock or the handguards.


Yeah, that's true. A couple soldiers on various forums I frequent have stated that they never used the carry handles on their A1's or A2's.

Still, I like the look of the carry handle. :)

C.G.
01-12-2006, 4:03 AM
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Does anyone have any experience with THIS ONE? (http://www.tapco.com/product_information.asp?number=OPT9711&back=yes&dept=4&last=3)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6161/opt9711md2no.jpg[/quote]

Yes, that is the T-168. I have one of those from Clearview investments for $39.99. They work just fine for cheap scopes; aside being on my Armalite 5.56 for few hundred rounds, it has also survived a couple hundred rounds of .50 Beowulf. The mil reticle sometimes is a little slanted (as reported on ARF.com) and the illumination switch has a tendency to turn on all by itself; I usually tape it over.