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Olav
02-03-2010, 5:01 AM
http://www.safetyharborfirearms.com/assets/images/KEG12-7in_grip_up.jpg

With the folding fore grip removed?

Mssr. Eleganté
02-03-2010, 6:20 AM
It would still be considered a "short barreled shotgun" under California law...

CPC Section 12020(c)(1) As used in this section, a "short-barreled shotgun" means any of the following:

(A) A firearm which is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell and having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.
(B) A firearm which has an overall length of less than 26 inches and which is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell.
(C) Any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.
(D) Any device which may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell which, when so restored, is a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C) inclusive.
(E) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C) inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive, can be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

CPC Section 12000(f)

Nothing shall prevent a device defined as a "handgun," "pistol," "revolver," or "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person" from also being found to be a short-barreled shotgun or a short-barreled rifle, as defined in Section 12020.

Charlie50
02-03-2010, 6:20 AM
no! negative, nyet not in CA ... short barreled shotgun. Possible in other "free" states as a class 3 with appropriate paperwork and taxes. Looks like it'd be a blast though! Perfect for ducks up real close:43:

AJAX22
02-03-2010, 6:30 AM
bore diameter is too large for pistol registration..

AOW registration in ca would work.

Olav
02-03-2010, 6:34 AM
O.K. Thanks everyone! Much appreciated!

pitchbaby
02-03-2010, 7:50 PM
Looks as illegal as illegal can get... but it sure is cool!

mydogsmonkey
02-03-2010, 7:59 PM
pretty sure smoothbore pistols are illegal

El Gato
02-03-2010, 8:09 PM
Yes ... Legal... expensive...

see this....

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=82693&highlight=serbu

weekend_plinker
02-03-2010, 8:28 PM
If short barrel shot guns where legal here I would own one of these
http://mossycreekcustom.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/the-judge.jpg

ke6guj
02-03-2010, 9:54 PM
As AJAX mentioned, the KEG-12 is an AOW, with or without the forward grip, due to it being a smooth bore pistol. As such, as a properly registered AOW, it would be legal in CA. There are similar AOWs already in CA.

Now, the roster would apply, so it would need to come in as a roster-exempt single-shot, but that shouldn't be too hard.

camsoup
02-03-2010, 10:03 PM
As AJAX mentioned, the KEG-12 is an AOW, with or without the forward grip, due to it being a smooth bore pistol. As such, as a properly registered AOW, it would be legal in CA. There are similar AOWs already in CA.

Now, the roster would apply, so it would need to come in as a roster-exempt single-shot, but that shouldn't be too hard.


But its an AOW...how would the pistol roster apply to a firearm classified as "other"??

ke6guj
02-03-2010, 10:08 PM
But its an AOW...how would the pistol roster apply to a firearm classified as "other"??federally, it is an AOW and would be 4473'd as an other, but per CA law, it is a handgun/pistol and the roster applies.

N_S
03-30-2010, 7:32 PM
Reminds me of...
http://liti4.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/force-of-nature1.jpg

ke6guj
03-30-2010, 8:13 PM
For those of you in SoCal, there is a Class 3 SOT that should have these avaiable for sale to the public in the near future. The KEG-12, not the "force-a-nature".

Killawhale415
03-31-2010, 9:42 AM
Reminds me of...
http://liti4.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/force-of-nature1.jpg

Thats hillurious.

Wherryj
04-01-2010, 4:14 PM
It would still be considered a "short barreled shotgun" under California law...

I'd vote for masochistic torture device. That thing has got to be a handful to fire.

upinflames2400
04-01-2010, 4:23 PM
i saw some gangmembers using double barreled shottys like that on a crips and bloods documentary. lol