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IndependentArmamentCo.
02-03-2010, 12:21 AM
Hey Guys, we'll have our new, "version 2" lower available on Thursday 02/04/10 (barring any mishap!) Here is a link to a thread about our new lowers started by one of our customers (thanks djleisure):

.: djleisure's thread :. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=264441)

Once we get the final product in, we'll update both this thread and the linked thread above. You can ask questions in either thread. The text and photos below are duplicates from the linked thread above.


Ok guys, here are some photos. After the SI Defense debacle, we decided to move to a different manufacturer, one who knew how to make lowers correctly...JD Machine. We're tough customers but Jessie and Eric have been very accommodating and the lowers are looking great.

We recently took a trip down to San Diego (after SHOT in Vegas and a little snowboarding in Mammoth) to visit the shop and see the first two lowers out of the gate...while we were there, we snapped a couple of photos.

These two photos are of the broaching machine that cuts the final shape of the magwells. This is a very tall machine and it can broach two lowers at a time.
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/broach1.jpg

And here's a closeup of the broachers. They progressively open up the magwell by shaving off material a little at a time as it goes down.
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/broach2.jpg

Here's a photo of the engraving machine....
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/cnc.jpg

IndependentArmamentCo.
02-03-2010, 12:22 AM
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And here's the final machined product:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/iac_lower1-1.jpg

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/iac_lower2.jpg

We have added a couple modifications to JD's already excellent lowers. Due to the "pre-shaped" limitation of forgings (plus prohibitive added machining costs), we stuck with the modifications that we though would make the most difference...but we did have some fun with the selector markings.

The first modification is a double bevel magazine well. We had considered doing a single deep bevel but we didn't want to thin out the "collar" area of the magwell. So instead, we came up with a secondary angle which allows plenty of material to remain around the "collar" area for strength but it creates a more funnel-like magwell bevel to help aid with reloads. (we'll post some photos later of this)

The second modification we did (which was present on our first batch of lowers by SI) was to add a recess on the left side of the takedown pin. The photos above doesn't show this modification but the final units will have them. What this does is that it allows you get just a little bit more push on the takedown pin which gives you a little meat to grab onto on the right side of the pin...helps when you have a snug upper to lower fit or if you don't have fine geisha-like hands (unlike aplinker )

Now as for the selector markings, we decided to go with HK style pictograms but for the full auto position, we used SHTF. We thought it was fitting. And, of course, our lowers are all low-shelf for our lucky Title 3 customers.

We're very excited about these lowers as JD does a very fine job with their existing lowers. All the flash is removed, they use quality forgings and their machining is well done and accurate.

We should be receiving the finished product some time next week so stop by the shop and check them out!

Mike / Dmitry

IndependentArmamentCo.
02-03-2010, 12:23 AM
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Here are the additional pictures we promised. These two are of the magwell:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/iac_magwell1.jpg

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/iac_magwell2.jpg

And here's the countersunk takedown pin area:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/iac_takedown.jpg

On a little cosmetic note, the selector markings above are from our prototypes. The new markings are nearly the same but we changed just some small details. The 'safe' marking has the "X" marking going through the box (corner to corner) instead of just X-ing out the bullet and the "SHTF" marking is just a hair bit smaller so that it's not crowding the border. If you look at the photos of the ones in white, that's what they'll look like on the final version. OCD? Yeah, just a little bit...

Any questions or comments are welcome. We should taking delivery of these late Wednesday and they will be ready for sale on Thursday after we manual inspect each one of them ourselves (it's going to be a late night!).

lugee
02-03-2010, 1:00 PM
O man, I want this just for those receiver markings!

beemaze
02-03-2010, 3:44 PM
BTW, the "SHTF" makes these collectible and maybe even priceless lol

Josh3239
02-03-2010, 4:36 PM
Dammit, I'll be at MEPS tomarrow. Can I call and get one reserved and start the DROS on Friday?

lugee
02-03-2010, 8:04 PM
I am going to swing by tomorrow around 2 or 3!

IndependentArmamentCo.
02-04-2010, 4:21 AM
We got 'em!

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/iac_final_n14.jpg

We have two different model/caliber markings. One is XM4 / 5.56 MM NATO and the other is XMX / MULTI. If you'd like to reserve a specific serial number, you'll have to come by the shop...we're not taking any reservations by email/phone/txt/etc. Strictly first come, first serve. Most of the commonly sought after numbers have already been taken (0000 thru 0010, 0013, 0069, etc...)

For all of you San Diego guys, give us a call at the shop and we can discuss what can be done.

Hey Josh, we have plenty of them. Don't worry, they won't be sold out by Friday (at least not this Friday! ;))

Lugee - See you tomorrow.

IndependentArmamentCo.
02-06-2010, 1:49 AM
More wholesome goodness...or something like that...0014 getting some Duracoat love... :D

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/IndyArmsCo/IAC_FDE.jpg

lugee
02-06-2010, 8:46 PM
^^ Very sick duracoat Mike. Saw this in person today and I have never seen so much attention to detail!

Do you only duracoat lowers?

IndependentArmamentCo.
02-07-2010, 1:15 AM
^^ Very sick duracoat Mike. Saw this in person today and I have never seen so much attention to detail!

Do you only duracoat lowers?Thanks Lugee! We also Duracoat complete guns and other parts like rails, grips, stocks, optics, etc...

eric90503
02-09-2010, 5:46 PM
Any plans on pistol receivers?:D

gregshin
02-10-2010, 1:42 PM
awesome lowers!!! these are by far some of the best lowers i've seen!!!

IndependentArmamentCo.
02-10-2010, 9:33 PM
Thanks Greg!

Eric - yes, we are planning on PISTOL marked lowers but they will be ONLY for Law Enforcement customers as stripped lowers (due to CA law). For civilians, we will have complete pistol builds but we'll warn everyone right now, they're not going to be cheap because we're not going to use any cheap parts. They will be quality parts through and through.

eric90503
02-10-2010, 11:33 PM
Thanks Greg!

Eric - yes, we are planning on PISTOL marked lowers but they will be ONLY for Law Enforcement customers as stripped lowers (due to CA law). For civilians, we will have complete pistol builds but we'll warn everyone right now, they're not going to be cheap because we're not going to use any cheap parts. They will be quality parts through and through.

Awesome, thanks for the reply. With so many mfgs. these days it's nice to see
your attention to detail. Btw, can LE PPT stripped pistol marked lowers as pistol lowers?

I'll be patiently waiting for your pistols. Perfection takes time.

IndependentArmamentCo.
02-13-2010, 3:10 AM
Awesome, thanks for the reply. With so many mfgs. these days it's nice to see your attention to detail. Btw, can LE PPT stripped pistol marked lowers as pistol lowers?

I'll be patiently waiting for your pistols. Perfection takes time.
Thanks! We both personally went through the "a part is a part" learning curve long ago and learned that there IS a difference in quality. If we wouldn't use the part ourselves, then we won't use the part in our custom builds.

As for transfers, yes and LEO can PPT pistol frames to non-LEO's.

Safonator
02-14-2010, 12:37 PM
Thanks Lugee! We also Duracoat complete guns and other parts like rails, grips, stocks, optics, etc...


How much does duracoating a lower typically run?

eric90503
02-15-2010, 9:00 AM
Thanks! We both personally went through the "a part is a part" learning curve long ago and learned that there IS a difference in quality. If we wouldn't use the part ourselves, then we won't use the part in our custom builds.

As for transfers, yes and LEO can PPT pistol frames to non-LEO's.

Thank you Sir. Any guestimated timeline that you may have on the pistol
lowers?

aermotor
02-15-2010, 2:12 PM
Are you guys selling any raw unpainted lowers that can then be Duracoated? What's the different pricing on lowers?

IndependentArmamentCo.
02-18-2010, 11:50 AM
How much does duracoating a lower typically run?
A single color is $55 and right now, we're only doing single colors as camo jobs consume too much time.

Thank you Sir. Any guestimated timeline that you may have on the pistol lowers?We're currently working out a deal with a local engraver to do some test runs. We will announce it here once it's ready to go.

Are you guys selling any raw unpainted lowers that can then be Duracoated? What's the different pricing on lowers?
You actually wouldn't want the lowers "in the white". It's better to get the protection of the hard anodizing to paint over.

Safonator
02-20-2010, 11:09 AM
A single color is $55 and right now, we're only doing single colors as camo jobs consume too much time.



Thanks. Time to do some thinking.

dark_ninja
02-28-2010, 9:59 PM
Do you guys still have some in stock?

350oshin
03-01-2010, 1:33 AM
i have seen these lowers, there really nice i need to hurry up and pick up a couple before there all gone!

five.five-six
03-01-2010, 2:08 AM
do you think you could do a run of them that said SHTF Zombie attack

eric90503
03-22-2010, 11:56 PM
Any new updates for pistol lowers?

Thanks

goathead
03-31-2010, 12:40 AM
how much are the lowers

buochie
03-31-2010, 2:25 PM
awesome lowers!

IndependentArmamentCo.
04-07-2010, 9:29 PM
We're still working on the second batch of these lowers, the pistol lowers are in the works! Don't worry, we want them for our own collection too so we're in just as much of a hurry! :)

The lowers are $150 each and thanks for the props! We really like how these turned out!

BMWguy206
04-25-2010, 7:47 PM
Any update on the 2nd batch of lowers?

beemaze
04-29-2010, 4:09 PM
Any update on the 2nd batch of lowers?

Stopped by today, not in yet...

BMWguy206
05-06-2010, 7:15 PM
Updates?

mydogsmonkey
05-07-2010, 5:05 PM
i was in today, i don't think they're there yet

beemaze
05-19-2010, 1:55 PM
Anyone with any updates??

CnCFunFactory
06-01-2010, 5:22 AM
Come on pistols!:D

IndependentArmamentCo.
06-04-2010, 3:59 PM
Come on pistols!:D

pistols coming soon, stand by for more info....

Notorious
06-05-2010, 10:30 AM
What's the difference when you mark the lower multi versus 5.56mm?

Josh3239
06-05-2010, 11:31 AM
People trip over each other to get the multi and end up building it into a 5.56mm anyway.

Solidsnake87
06-07-2010, 9:54 PM
pretty lowers :)

PlasticMan
06-10-2010, 5:03 PM
I was in the shop today. The new batch of lowers are in!

CnCFunFactory
06-10-2010, 5:31 PM
What about the pistols?

mydogsmonkey
06-11-2010, 6:33 PM
What about the pistols?

i dont believe he had them in. as far as cali compliant built pisttols go, sounds like soon!!:D

RaceDay
06-15-2010, 7:35 AM
i dont believe he had them in. as far as cali compliant built pisttols go, sounds like soon!!:D

Yeah, the selection at the shop could get very interesting soon.

Cherns
06-17-2010, 10:33 AM
are the lowers sold out yet?

BMWguy206
07-14-2010, 11:39 AM
are the lowers sold out yet?

I just bought one last week and it appears he does have them in stock.

beemaze
07-14-2010, 5:32 PM
I was there last week too. These will be collector's items since IAC will cease to exist in name and become PD Gun Supply and Tool.

Cherns
07-15-2010, 12:30 PM
ya, just got a reply back from them that said they do have them in stock.