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Liberty1
01-31-2010, 9:40 AM
Good Shoot'n Tex!!! Get well soon!

hat tip to the VCDL e-mail alert (http://www.vcdl.org/meetings.html)

http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=402271

Home invasion suspect, victim end up at same hospital

Friday, January 15, 2010 at 9:32 a.m.
Last updated: Friday, January 15, 2010

Read more: Local, Crime, 11 Year Old Boy, Home Invasion, Gun Battle, Mcallen Monitor, Minnesota Road, 8 Mile Line, Hidalgo County Sheriff's Office, Palmview, Hidalgo County, Rio Grande Valley, Texas


Three men are being held for a Palmview home invasion where an 11-year-old boy was shot defending his mother.

Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office deputies told Action 4 News that it happened off Minnesota Road and 8 Mile Line between Palmview and Mission around 12:30 a.m. Friday.

The homeowner said she and her 11-year-old son were in bed when she heard banging coming from the front door.

She got up to check and she saw two Hispanic males men wearing masks and armed with handguns walking towards her.

She quickly closed the bedroom door but one of the men allegedly tried to force it open.

The masked man kept telling her to open the door and she would not open the door.

The woman told deputies that the home invaders shot through the door and hit her son on the left hip area.

Her son had a 22 cal. Rifle and shot back at the alleged robbers.

The woman waited, opened the door, saw that the suspects were gone and called 911.

Deputies found blood all over the floor and noted that the front door had been knocked down.

Paramedics took the woman's 11-year-old son to the McAllen Medical Center where he’s listed in stable condition.

But deputies told Action 4 News that a man with a gunshot wound to his neck ended up at the same hospital.

Investigators said nothing was taken from the home and that the wounded suspect was taken to a hospital in San Antonio for further treatment. He remains under guard.

Criminal charges are expected to be filed against him, if he survives.

Deputies said Border Patrol agents detained two Mexican nationals who were found in the area.

The two men are being questioned about the home invasion.

U.S. Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials told Action 4 News that they have filed immigration detainers against the two men.

My375hp302
01-31-2010, 9:51 AM
Hope the boy heals up quickly and the dirt bag dies. Why can't America enforce federal laws (Illegal immagration) like California enforces gun laws...

Turo
01-31-2010, 9:56 AM
D-D-D-DUPE! :dupe:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=3649327


Lol I always wanted to do that!

wildhawker
01-31-2010, 9:59 AM
Who says that a rifle is inappropriate for HD use? Go Appleseeds - the fast movers of home defense!

Liberty1
01-31-2010, 10:18 AM
D-D-D-DUPE! :dupe:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=3649327


Lol I always wanted to do that!

That one is "Off Topic". This one is On Topic! :p

Liberty1
01-31-2010, 10:25 AM
Who says that a rifle is inappropriate for HD use? Go Appleseeds - the fast movers of home defense!

I would prefer a SBR suppressed .223 or .308 personally for HD considering potential body armor use by home invaders. Would love to keep the same in my vehicle for travel too.

Maestro Pistolero
01-31-2010, 10:57 AM
I would prefer a SBR suppressed .223 or .308
A short barrel will reduce velocity drastically, limiting the ability to penetrate hard targets. As an example, 5.56 relies on velocity and fragmentation as it's primary wounding mechanism. This only occurs reliably at or above 2700 FPS. Some SBRs barely generate that velocity at the muzzle, let alone at 50-100 yards and beyond.

Fate
01-31-2010, 11:35 AM
IBTWLCAGY

Oh man...

http://sc.tri-bit.com/images/3/37/EFMAXCEIZRGP6L6PMTIM675XPGVWIZDF.jpg

Liberty1
01-31-2010, 11:37 AM
A short barrel will reduce velocity drastically, limiting the ability to penetrate hard targets. As an example, 5.56 relies on velocity and fragmentation as it's primary wounding mechanism. This only occurs reliably at or above 2700 FPS. Some SBRs barely generate that velocity at the muzzle, let alone at 50-100 yards and beyond.

Would it still be more effective then my .45 handgun?

What would be your choice to counter body-armor besides a head shot?

Fate
01-31-2010, 11:43 AM
Would it still be more effective then my .45 handgun?

What would be your choice to counter body-armor besides a head shot?

7.62x25 AR upper ;)

obeygiant
01-31-2010, 12:44 PM
The woman told deputies that the home invaders shot through the door and hit her son on the left hip area.

Her son had a 22 cal. Rifle and shot back at the alleged robbers.
Regardless of what would be good for HD, this boy has got some moxy and should be commended for protecting his mother and himself after being shot.

SoCalshooter68
01-31-2010, 12:51 PM
Although as a parent you don't want your kids to put themselves in harms way as you'd rather take the bullet for them, all I can say to this boy is great job. You also have to give the parents credit for teaching their child about firearms and an appropriate time and place to use them, assuming they did. I learned to shoot at six, and plan on taking my seven year old out real soon. Having learned at young age took the curiousity of guns away and left me with an understanding of what a firearm is and does. I think if more parents took on that initiative we would have less accidental shootings amongst children.

obeygiant
01-31-2010, 1:37 PM
Although as a parent you don't want your kids to put themselves in harms way as you'd rather take the bullet for them, all I can say to this boy is great job. You also have to give the parents credit for teaching their child about firearms and an appropriate time and place to use them, assuming they did. I learned to shoot at six, and plan on taking my seven year old out real soon. Having learned at young age took the curiousity of guns away and left me with an understanding of what a firearm is and does. I think if more parents took on that initiative we would have less accidental shootings amongst children.

You're absolutely right and I should have included the parent(s) in that. When you remove the curiosity and taboo through teaching children the appropriate time,place and respect of firearms it will eliminate the primary causes of accidental shootings. That and of course not leaving your firearm so that it is accessible to children.

Meplat
01-31-2010, 1:52 PM
Would it still be more effective then my .45 handgun?

Whatever you got in your hand at the time. Obviously the kid did not have your .45:p

What would be your choice to counter body-armor besides a head shot?

A nut shot:eek:

Just another case of irresponsibly allowing children access to guns. That poor house guest would not have been injured otherwise.

pitchbaby
01-31-2010, 2:43 PM
Kid was probably using something like a 10/22. Too bad it wasn't an AR-15.... Well done in any case, that kid's a tough nut to crack for sure!

Joe
01-31-2010, 3:01 PM
Wow what a brave little guy

Maestro Pistolero
01-31-2010, 3:19 PM
The FBI now trains agents to transition to handguns when digging suspects out from behind drywall, etc, because their tests show that, although the 5.56 carbines will go through the walls, the rounds do not retain enough velocity to do much damage afterward. This makes an AR15 a surprisingly responsible choice for home defense. The mass of the .45 or .40 allow it to retain more velocity through barriers.

I haven't seen any tests, but I would think a 1oz. slug might be a good choice for shooting through walls and doors, but shooting through walls is seldom a good idea for home defense, though it so happened to be the only choice for our brave young man in this case.

For penetrating the body armor of a criminal, 7.62 from at least a 16 inch barrel ought to do the trick.