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SPE
01-30-2010, 11:42 PM
I have an XD 40, but agonize every time I see the lower prices for 9mm ammo.

Is a .40 S&W round really 40% more expensive to manufacture? :confused: (seems highly unlikely) Based on some posts it seems that .45 owners have the same frustration.

Or is it that .40 isn't as popular as 9mm, so they just charge more for the smaller production runs or lower volume?

I don't even own a 9mm yet, but I just placed my first order for 20 boxes of 9mm Blazer Brass at Wideners.com, which came out to $12.92 a box, including shipping. The Blazer Brass .40 S&W is 42% more expensive!!! :eek:

And I see the sticker on the eternally empty shelf at WalMart that claims that their mythical Federal 9mm is only $9.50 a box. That's nearly half the price of my average .40 S&W purchase price.

I've enjoyed the .40, but it makes me feel poor after a day at the range. :(

M47_Dragon
01-31-2010, 12:00 AM
Or is it that .40 isn't as popular as 9mm, so they just charge more for the smaller production runs or lower volume?


That is probably part of it... that and the mere fact that more metal = more $.


I'm just guessing, BTW.

ke6guj
01-31-2010, 12:28 AM
yes, there would be some additional cost in materials to make .40 vs 9mm, but as you mentioned, the demand for 9mm is greater, so they make more of it. Economies of scale start to creep in then.

23 Blast
01-31-2010, 7:21 AM
yes, there would be some additional cost in materials to make .40 vs 9mm, but as you mentioned, the demand for 9mm is greater, so they make more of it. Economies of scale start to creep in then.

yes, I believe economies of scale is the primary answer. Otherwise, following the same logic, .32acp and .25acp and .380 would all be cheaper than 9mm, and they're not.

dan12580
01-31-2010, 7:33 AM
not being an economic expert i would think that the production numbers would not matter. or at least not to the extent of a 47% difference. when federal manufactures 1.3 billion rounds of 9mm and ONLY 1.1 billion rounds of 40 do you really think that makes that much of a difference? i think that when things cost what they do it is typically due to the manufacturer charging 5 cents less then it would cost to talk people out of buying their product. just my thoughts.

bruceflinch
01-31-2010, 7:45 AM
It's a conspiracy between the gunmakers & the ammo makers, I tell ya!

That's one reason I reload. I can go out & shoot a few hundred rounds & not worry about the cost.

RandyD
01-31-2010, 8:09 AM
Pull out your Economics 101 text book and review the section on supply and demand.

Uriah02
01-31-2010, 8:10 AM
Pull out your Economics 101 text book and review the section on supply and demand.

+ 1

Mickey D
01-31-2010, 9:07 AM
I'm enjoying the fact we have some Calgunners that know how to calculate percentages and goeszintas. :D

gn3hz3ku1*
01-31-2010, 9:28 AM
get a 9mm barrel for ur 40

GrayWolf09
01-31-2010, 9:29 AM
My guess would be that the 9mm is a more popular cartridge worldwide. Economies of scale being what they are this makes for cheaper ammo. Plus you have milsurp 9mm competing with comercial.

By the same token in the Great Ammo Rush of 2009, 9mm sold out before .40 S&W.

Curtis
01-31-2010, 9:39 AM
In 2009 I priced out the cost of all the componets for 9 mm and .40. Then I looked at the price of ammo. The componet price of 9mm was slightly lower than the ammo price. The componet price of .40 was 1/2 of the ammo price.

As others have said.....economy of scale.

nitrofc
01-31-2010, 1:53 PM
Because your paying a few extra dollars to have nearly 50% more energy than that of a 9mm.

You get what you pay for.

http://www.bersapistols.com/category/750-40_sw_ammunition.aspx

Cokebottle
01-31-2010, 2:28 PM
My guess would be that the 9mm is a more popular cartridge worldwide. Economies of scale being what they are this makes for cheaper ammo. Plus you have milsurp 9mm competing with comercial.

By the same token in the Great Ammo Rush of 2009, 9mm sold out before .40 S&W.
This.

It's not only that Federal makes 1.4 million 9mm vs 1.1 million .40, it's also because there's 20 different manufacturers kicking out 9mm and other NATO ammo... much of it cheap overseas production.

Now move from FMJ to JHP.
9mm and .45 are priced about the same... going rate is a buck a round for the more popular ammo, Federal HST is about half that (and IMHO, a better choice than Hydrashock and many other JHP options).

ke6guj
01-31-2010, 2:46 PM
this is a cool thread started by a guy who works at an ammo production plant, http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=989436&page=1

Greg-Dawg
01-31-2010, 4:30 PM
Time for you to look for a better job.

Honestly, whenever buying a firearm prepare to buy the ammo.